How about suing that cgs711 group that's selling gold?

Psychon - Heavens Tear
Psychon - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
edited September 2008 in Suggestion Box
I mean they're using PW for their own personal gain right? Their destroying the experience and technically harassing the playerbase with their spambots.

Here's a log of my conversation with one of their "salespeople" notice how s/he tries to play stupid though the whole thing and then when I ask for a satisfied customer to talk to suddenly s/he is too busy to talk.
:D

Psychon says:
Cheap gold seller eh?
cheap gold seller says:
yes
cheap gold seller says:
may i help u?
Psychon says:
You realize that while what you're doing isn't neccessarily illegal, there are people willing to monkey-wrench you.
Psychon says:
Do you know how annoying your bots are?
Psychon says:
Have you ever experianced the frustration they incur?
Psychon says:
I'd like an answer, I'm still a potential customer after all.
cheap gold seller says:
oh,sorry for the trouble
cheap gold seller says:
but i am just an employee
cheap gold seller says:
i only have to say sorry
Psychon says:
Oh so there actually IS profit being made from this?
Psychon says:
Profit enough to hire employees
Psychon says:
Well that, that is actually quite illegal
cheap gold seller says:
why illegal??
Psychon says:
You're making money from someone else's work
Psychon says:
You're selling in-game currency for actual money
Psychon says:
Money the games creators and legitamate staff should be getting.
cheap gold seller says:
so ?
Psychon says:
So, that's against the law
Psychon says:
So, they can sue you for what you're worth
Psychon says:
Ever heard of a Class Action Suit?
Psychon says:
Nasty little things
Psychon says:
Like five people ganging up on one person to kick them in the chest at the same time
Psychon says:
But instead of blood, theres money.
Psychon says:
Of course, I've never been a lawsuit kind of guy...
cheap gold seller says:
why?
Psychon says:
What's it to ya?
Psychon says:
Didn't realize that you cared unless you were getting my money for something I should've worked for myself.
Psychon says:
These games have in-game cash shops for a reason.
Psychon says:
What kind of business would you be in if you sucked them all dry hm?
Psychon says:
If you ran their accounts into the negatives and all the games your bots spam on were shut down. What then?
Psychon says:
If MMOs were destroyed because of "organizations" such as the one you belong to.
Psychon says:
What's the plan eh?
cheap gold seller says:
hmm, i do not know
Psychon says:
You'd be out of a job that's what.
cheap gold seller says:
i do not mind
cheap gold seller says:
i will find another job then
Psychon says:
Doing what? Stabbing people on the street and taking the direct path to robbery?
Psychon says:
I suppose that will work 'till you get caught
Psychon says:
Do you think its ok what your "organization" is doing to these companies?
Psychon says:
Taking money from them
Psychon says:
Is that fair?
Psychon says:
Are their methods of advertisement fair to the people that play these games for fun and enjoyment?
Psychon says:
\
Psychon says:
To have to endure that every day.
cheap gold seller says:
maybe not
cheap gold seller says:
i think
Psychon says:
Then why are you working for them/
cheap gold seller says:
i do not play games
Psychon says:
Doesn't matter if you do or don't. Is it fair was the question.
cheap gold seller says:
i am just a customer supporter
Psychon says:
For someone to suck the fun out of something you enjoy
Psychon says:
Don't use that excuse. I do customer support for a living, I know what I get myself into by calling people at odd hours offering things I know they don't want.
Psychon says:
You're affiliated with them, you're just as much to blame for the problem
Psychon says:
Because if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Psychon says:
Tell me something. How does it work. I give you money for a game like...say...Perfect World.
Psychon says:
How do I know I'll get my coins?
cheap gold seller says:
u want to buy coins?
Psychon says:
I didn't say that, I MIGHT want to. But I'd like to know how your system works
Psychon says:
Because there are scams everywhere on the internet
Psychon says:
And honestly this sounds like a scam
Psychon says:
So explain how it works.
cheap gold seller says:
sorry
cheap gold seller says:
i cant
Psychon says:
Then how can I trust your company.
Psychon says:
How can I trust you with my money?
Psychon says:
Where are the legal agreements
Psychon says:
Terms of Use
Psychon says:
Etc.
Psychon says:
The well-written fine print that says "I will not **** you over" where is that?
Psychon says:
Give me a link.
cheap gold seller says:
there is no link
Psychon says:
So you have no documentable proof that you're not taking people's money and running with it?
cheap gold seller says:
we will not
Psychon says:
There must be some kind of record of users on Perfect World who have used your service right?
Psychon says:
Could you give me some names of people to talk to who have made transactions with you so I can attest to the legitamacy of your claims?
cheap gold seller says:
ok
cheap gold seller says:
wait
cheap gold seller says:
but i do not have his real name
Psychon says:
Player names work fine
Psychon says:
I didn't plan on calling the guy, I just want to ask him in-game.
cheap gold seller says:
ok
cheap gold seller says:
i am busy with my customer now
cheap gold seller says:
psl wait a sec
Psychon says:
Kay.
Psychon says:
I'm not very patient...
cheap gold seller says:
sorry
cheap gold seller says:
busy now
Psychon says:
You can continue sidestepping it I suppose. No matter, this conversation has been saved and is on its way to the Perfect World administrators.
Psychon says:
Their legal team will deal with you guys I assume.
Psychon says:
Guess its good that you can just "find a new job" right? I'm sure you're very skilled.
Psychon says:
Sayonara ^_^
cheap gold seller says:
ok,up to u
cheap gold seller says:
^_^


I have the .xml doc saved to my harddrive if needed. Hopefully something can be done about this. As an aspiring video game developer this nonsense makes me sick, these people need to be bludgeoned for an hour.

Thoughts, opinions, and notes from the staff are welcome. I'm curious as to whether anything can be done about this legally, I'm sure that if these guys are doing as much as they claim some kinda class action suit could be arranged from it.
Perfect World Legal Team ASSEMBLE!!!
//Psychon
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Comments

  • figgy
    figgy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Very nice. Well played!

    To my knowledge though, this is still sort of a gray area. I think the players of WOW have a class action suit going on now, but I have no idea what the outcomes of it thus far have been.
  • bron
    bron Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Wow, owned. Nice job dude.

    How did you save it by the way? I wasn't aware there was a loging system for Whispers, only Personal Chat and (multiperson) Chat. Or did you actually take the time to rewrite this? I'm sure the guy's name as edited out. No reason though, since the gold seller will get banned anyway and isn't gonna be there very long.

    Sue the gold sellers!
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  • revoil
    revoil Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    WoWInsider For those who are looking for the Class-action lawsuit information

    Also, I agree that goldbot should be sued and IP banned from all games. It's really annoying to hear them everytime you go into a city.
  • Psychon - Heavens Tear
    Psychon - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    It was actually an MSN chat. Unfortunately the file didn't save as a .xml document, but I'm sure that if I write them again with one of my alt names I can get them to admit the same nonsense, Hell, I can even screenie the window as added credibility.

    Its really unfortunate that sites like megaloader and gigaloader no longer exist as some of us could easily take matters into our own hands and DDoS the site. Then again, that poses its own legal issues as well, and therefore I'm not condoning or supporting such actions (especially since I'm sober now).

    I wonder how deep these guys' pockets are? :D
  • sikozu
    sikozu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    good stuff lol
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  • l0ki
    l0ki Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    O.O sue the gold sellers? Good Luck~ They are annoying but their pretty anonymous~... except that we could **** their sites and steal money.. mwhahahahaha. *Grins*