1 day & 100000s of bots & no GM

moonelve
moonelve Posts: 0 Arc User
edited September 2008 in General Discussion
ok its a joke already. the game is awesome. but the bots are already here and in packs.
i mean like 5 + all on same spot all fire skill at same time, all move at same time all ksing and not a GM online. and the problem is you cant report fast enough.
i hope somthing will be done soon before the bots ruin the game
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  • bigtoyota
    bigtoyota Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    You do know you can click the character, right click the picture and choose report as hacker right?
  • xarfox
    xarfox Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    bigtoyota wrote: »
    You do know you can click the character, right click the picture and choose report as hacker right?

    Yes please report any botters that you see. We are actively trying to find and ban botters.
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  • hylebos
    hylebos Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    They were quick to remove a few on Lost City last night, so your experience was different.

    Did you talk about the bots/hackers in general chat? Usually that helps because you can get other people to report them as hackers and then GM will get notified sooner.
  • zoefox
    zoefox Posts: 225
    edited September 2008
    Found a gold spammer in Heavens Tear. Xarfox himself was there a couple of minutes later, the spammer was not.
  • skar
    skar Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    IP ban, no tolerance policy Please.
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  • aaddron
    aaddron Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    hylebos wrote: »
    Did you talk about the bots/hackers in general chat? Usually that helps because you can get other people to report them as hackers and then GM will get notified sooner.

    No I'm almost 100% positive that doing that will actually slow everything down. Reporting the same bot 100 times would just make more reports for them to go through in turn slowing down how long it take for them to get to other reports and to get rid of other bots.
    IRTPTP <
    Can you figure it out.
  • took
    took Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Does PWI have the anti-bot question-answering popup, as in PW Chinese? That would help to some extent.
    Don't have time playing to verify that in weekdays...
  • orsonx
    orsonx Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    skar wrote: »
    IP ban, no tolerance policy Please.

    PLEASE do that!!
  • xarfox
    xarfox Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    skar wrote: »
    IP ban, no tolerance policy Please.

    We have a zero tolerance policy with botting, gold selling, and hacking. No worries here. ;)
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  • lena
    lena Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    w00t so we just report them and your there ok for those that dont know how to tell what a bot is can ya give me some info rofl coz I have no clue lol
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  • aaddron
    aaddron Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    lena wrote: »
    w00t so we just report them and your there ok for those that dont know how to tell what a bot is can ya give me some info rofl coz I have no clue lol

    Basically they stand in one place and attack anything that's in the area..
    IRTPTP <
    Can you figure it out.
  • neoray
    neoray Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    skar wrote: »
    IP ban, no tolerance policy Please.

    IP ban is bad. How about ppl with dynamic IPs.
    They get IP banned for nothing. OK, they can try to get another IP, but that`s russian roulette.
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  • devotion
    devotion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    xarfox wrote: »
    We have a zero tolerance policy with botting, gold selling, and hacking. No worries here. ;)

    could you also, if possible, lower the time to report bots? I usually see 3+ pack of them and I am not going to wait 15 minutes to report them all
    I like to rub it in. Enjoying the game?
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  • phoenixheart
    phoenixheart Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Also if your going to IP ban please make sure the person is or isnt botting because I was playing yesterday and there were about 50 people in 1 spot waiting for respawns....the congestion was very bad. It will thin out as the hard core players start to rise..
  • zoefox
    zoefox Posts: 225
    edited September 2008
    Well if anyone tries to say that there are bots everywhere and the gms are not on I'd have to say thats a total lie.
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/foxdraco/workinghard.jpg

    Look in the upper right.
  • osofresh
    osofresh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    If i remember correctly from MY-EN, bots are usually only found in low level places. You don't get very far when you bot this game
  • oo7
    oo7 Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    instead of banning the bots, i rather want to make them has 1 atk power and PK-able regardless of server and locations. Since it's not "banning" , the bot probably can't read it and re-log to different account automatically.
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  • destruction
    destruction Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    oo7 wrote: »
    instead of banning the bots, i rather want to make them has 1 atk power and PK-able regardless of server and locations. Since it's not "banning" , the bot probably can't read it and re-log to different account automatically.

    Yea!
    Make botters player mobs :D
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  • tinkus
    tinkus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    oo7, I like the cut of you jib.
  • neoneo
    neoneo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    gm'S WANA BUY A PROGRAM TO LOCATE BOTS LOL THEY USE PORGRAMS TO BYPASS PATCH THERE FOR STRAIGHT CONNECTING TO SERVER ,,,,,, LIKE RUNNING MUTI CLIENT
    LMFAO AND WAYS JUS DELETE EVERY CHAR AND START OVER CAYSE THIS **** WILL GO LOST IF THERES LOTS OF BOTS
  • ruve
    ruve Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    oo7 wrote: »
    instead of banning the bots, i rather want to make them has 1 atk power and PK-able regardless of server and locations. Since it's not "banning" , the bot probably can't read it and re-log to different account automatically.

    Ahh!! That'd be almost too fun!
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  • hylebos
    hylebos Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    aaddron wrote: »
    No I'm almost 100% positive that doing that will actually slow everything down. Reporting the same bot 100 times would just make more reports for them to go through in turn slowing down how long it take for them to get to other reports and to get rid of other bots.

    I assumed they had a normal ticketing system that appended all reports on a single player name to one ticket. The more alerts on a ticket, the higher in the queue it goes.

    But you seem to know a lot about the system, so it must be very basic?
  • xylent
    xylent Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Its a good thing they all (per pack) attack the same monster and only in the same spot.

    It would also add to the fun to randomly spawn some big strong monsters (like a miniboss of sorts) for players to kill in areas where bots are reported. This does two things, one is kill the bots and two is provide higher level players something to challenge themselves with when they are not in a dungeon and are looking for extra exp, loot, and what not. -it should then send all the bots back to the nearest town where it will be easier to take note of them. Also the random miniboss must be avoidable by players who are on the keyboard - such as not attacking it will not cause it to aggro - bots dont know that.
  • emblem
    emblem Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    No problem, let bots run rampant and ban legit players with out a reason.
  • aaddron
    aaddron Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    hylebos wrote: »
    I assumed they had a normal ticketing system that appended all reports on a single player name to one ticket. The more alerts on a ticket, the higher in the queue it goes.

    But you seem to know a lot about the system, so it must be very basic?

    I'm just guessing. I've played a lot of MMO's and the reporting system seem to all be set up the same. I guess it could do that too. I was basing my guess on this:

    "Once you click the GM button, it will allow you report a botter.The message will then be queued in the order in which it was received. Please have patience as the GMs receive many help tickets throughout the day.

    Contacting a GM once is sufficient. Your issue will not be processed any faster if you file multiple tickets; in fact, you are more likely to get a warning for abusing the system. So just remember that patience is a virtue and hang tight."
    IRTPTP <
    Can you figure it out.
  • tidustwin
    tidustwin Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    took wrote: »
    Does PWI have the anti-bot question-answering popup, as in PW Chinese? That would help to some extent.
    Don't have time playing to verify that in weekdays...

    You know what would be a great idea to stop the botters. Have like that questioning popup, but if they don't answer after 5 or 10minute, they automatically get logged off. =)
  • kinetikop
    kinetikop Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    tidustwin wrote: »
    You know what would be a great idea to stop the botters. Have like that questioning popup, but if they don't answer after 5 or 10minute, they automatically get logged off. =)

    It would be rather easy to design something that logs you back in after being logged out. Especially if you already spent time developing a bot. So unless you temporarily banned an account for that, or prevented it from logging on for a period of time, that would be nearly useless.
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  • sparker
    sparker Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    maybe they could make something that detects when a user clicks his mouse... and if u dont click ur mouse for a certain ammount of time u freeze and a question pops up and u have to answer to unfreeze and continue playin.. that would stop bots? :D
  • robbiethe1st
    robbiethe1st Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    orsonx wrote: »
    PLEASE do that!!

    The only problem with this is that some ISPs use shared or dynamic IPs - For example, it appears that Hughes.net, my ISP is using a shared enforced proxy for all non-secure traffic. This means that anyone who uses Hughes.net appears to have the same IP(or, perhaps just a select few IPs, depending on different plans/whatever).

    This presents a problem when someone on this same proxy does bad stuff and gets banned - I have run into several sites when searching on Google that give a "The administrator has banned your IP from this site" error, when I have never done anything wrong, or even *been* there before.

    Also dynamic IP systems are just the opposite - every time you restart your modem, you get a new IP. This means that when someone gets banned, all they have to do is restart the modem(which takes perhaps 5 minutes), and they can go back to doing whatever they were doing before.

    Now, I am not saying that IP banning is all bad; it does have its uses, but assuming that only a single person is using and will use that IP is somewhat foolish.

    I would like to see something a bit better, perhaps only banning an IP for a certain period, however banning the bot/hacker's account & email forever.

    Thanks,


    -RobbieThe1st

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