Proof why member moderators do not work.

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  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    Perfect World International, if this forum has sensure, then please don't call it International.
    PS. That sensure has been done by a teenages who has become a moderater. I don't understand how that is possible.
    Roxy shouldn't be able to do any kind of sensure.

    You mean a Censor? Ah!

    Oh well, a Censor, here you are

    Any person who supervises the manners or morality of others.

    And a Censure is

    An expression of strong disapproval or harsh criticism.

    Um, but I'm pretty sure the person said Roxy had a **** deserves to be Censured?

    But he wasn't, he was Censored, because it offended Roxy, which she has the right to do.

    We are on their Private Forums, which means we follow their rules! :D

    and BTW Perfect World International is the name, so why wouldn't you call it that?
  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    1- he is french

    2 - he already admitted his english is far from perfect.

    3 - I think when nonours is excited, he loose it a bit and write worst than habitually.

    3 - at least he is able to communicate in 2 languages, something many here cannot do, I bet.

    Stop You(you are TOO nice). We are not speaking about the subject anymore. I have said many times that Roxy shouldn't be a moderater and the prove is that this thread exists.
    Moderater should do good work to help people and themselves to improve the forum.
  • tyddraig
    tyddraig Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I like rant threads, please may we have more?

    Anyway, this thread is getting a little out of hand now, in all honesty we should all be banned for even taking part in the thread even though most of us, alothough all of us, should know better due to the rules.

    Here is a real life similarity what has happened.

    You are walking home from school/work, you see a wall that has graffiti on it, after closer inspection you realise that it is profanity directed at you, you also notice that a can of spray paint is next to it what do you do?
    1. ignore it?
    2. use the can to change it?

    If you chose 2 then you've done a roxy, which is in all honesty what a lot of people would do.
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    tsukianei wrote: »
    Editing posts is the moderators job. She is a moderator, despite your hatred against that fact alone, she can edit/delete anything she wants to. She has to follow the guidelines, which she has done.

    She hasn't broken rules. He "abuses" of power are editing one post, and sticking a couple of threads up for all to see.

    If that is an abuse of power, then you had better not live in the U.S. Where cops, judges, lawyers, and the President himself "abuses" power.

    If your definition of abusing power is doing you own job as a moderator, then you are a moron and I pity you for your lack of brain power, and you heightened sense of stupidity.

    That last part may seem mean, and to be honest it is. This thread has reached over 8 pages, that's eight pages too far.

    The thread provider posted his opinion, however dumb it may be, and made a thread public instead of sending an admin a PM. In most forums, that is against the rules, and the thread would have been deleted. You have succeeded in taking your personal opinion against an individual and perverted it into a debate amongst the community. This thread sucks and shouldn't exist.

    Congratulations, I feel a little dumber now that I have mildly argued with you. Moderators, please delete this thread.

    Have a nice day. ^_^

    Your post would make sense if you weren't so conceded about your opinion. You're smart but making yourself seem like the God of these forums isn't. The part bolded and underlined applies to you too.

    See why do people keep trying to put themselves high upon some pedestal where they deem themselves above rational thought of humanity. All you're going to do is hurt your **** harder when you eventually fall down
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  • tsukianei
    tsukianei Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    Stop You(you are TOO nice). We are not speaking about the subject anymore. I have said many times that Roxy shouldn't be a moderater and the prove is that this thread exists.
    Moderater should do good work to help people and themselves to improve the forum.

    Okay, you are a bad person, I do not like you. You shouldn't exist, and the proof is that this is posted. You're logic is faulty.
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    balthazar wrote: »
    I'm really disappointed, you jump at the Mod for doing the right thing, yet you support your GUILDMATE for saying she has a ****? Is this even any of yours or your Guild Mates business.

    Hey and at least Roxy is stepping up and laying her case down, where as in other Forums, Mods hide when they're flammed.

    I'm not quite supporting him, I'm saying Roxy is BIASED because the following posts have not been warned or banned:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/search.php?searchid=236331 (if this link doesn't work, the search was "idiot" / show results as posts - lots of infractions to be handed out)
    You can do the same with "****" and "****", lot of results im sure...

    As for all you copypasting bums saying "no discussing administrative punishment" or whatever, this was mainly about what HASN'T been dealt with, not what has.
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  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    tyddraig wrote: »
    You are walking home from school/work, you see a wall that has graffiti on it, after closer inspection you realise that it is profanity directed at you, you also notice that a can of spray paint is next to it what do you do?
    1. ignore it?
    2. use the can to change it?

    3. take down the wall.
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • tyddraig
    tyddraig Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    3. take down the wall.

    Touche!

    Anyway, if this was kotaku Witzbold or spoonybard would be having a field day wielding their mighty banhammer!
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    3. take down the wall.

    Isn't that what we're planning to do eventually

    *lifts pinky to mouth*

    Muhhahahahhhhhaha

    *strokes Mr.Kibbles*
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  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ren wrote: »
    I'm not quite supporting him, I'm saying Roxy is BIASED because the following posts have not been warned or banned:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/search.php?searchid=236331 (if this link doesn't work, the search was "idiot" / show results as posts - lots of infractions to be handed out)
    You can do the same with "****" and "****", lot of results im sure...

    As for all you copypasting bums saying "no discussing administrative punishment" or whatever, this was mainly about what HASN'T been dealt with, not what has.

    Bleh, well apparently I keep taking things the wrong way, so sorry :X!

    I'm out of this thread haha,

    *poof??*
  • tyddraig
    tyddraig Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    This thread fails to explain why I continue to browse these forums when I can't even play the game! :(
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    tyddraig wrote: »
    This thread fails to explain why I continue to browse these forums when I can't even play the game! :(

    Forums ARE the mmo. Right after ventrilo
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  • tsukianei
    tsukianei Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    Your post would make sense if you weren't so conceded about your opinion. You're smart but making yourself seem like the God of these forums isn't. The part bolded and underlined applies to you too.

    See why do people keep trying to put themselves high upon some pedestal where they deem themselves above rational thought of humanity. All you're going to do is hurt your **** harder when you eventually fall down

    Ah. I could say good point, and let you have your cookie. However, when you say "deem themselves about rational thought of humanity" you have to understand, people suck. Yes, that's right, in my honest opinion, humanity is faulty. We could go on a huge debate about humanity and the reasons why humanity is not the solution but part of the problem, but this is not the time, nor place.

    When I stated "You have succeeded in taking your personal opinion against an individual and perverted it into a debate amongst the community," I did mean just what that sentence tells you. However, the debate was in motion to start as soon as the thread provider made his post.

    It was only a matter of time before the inevitable post defending Roxy was made and the **** hit the fan. I believe he knew what was going to happen once he made this thread. Sparking a debate would only make the developers think harder on the subject at hand. My mistake, as well as everyone else's was feeding the troll.

    Do I think that I am better than some people? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. It's Darwinism at its best, equality among humanity is a faded out dream, it doesn't exist.
  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ren wrote: »
    I'm not quite supporting him, I'm saying Roxy is BIASED because the following posts have not been warned or banned:

    1 - we have 2 member mods

    2 - we posts faster than they can read

    3 - this is not a full-time job they have


    conclusion : they cannot read everything and some things will be overlooked.

    Solution : if you see something objectionnable that have not been taken care of after a couple of days, PM one of the mods/admins. I tried it, it work very well. What I reported was always swiftly taken care of.
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • infrequentia
    infrequentia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    To quote myself:
    infrequentia wrote: »
    I think all of these threads that get out of line should be locked. These people are moderators now, deal with it. If you have a problem with how they do their thing, take it up with the community manager and stop taking it to the forums and make unnecessary drama.
  • tatakairyu
    tatakairyu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    They should get mods for each section of the forums, that'd sort things out easier. A lot of issues wouldn't be overlooked then. Still, nothing is perfect *coughexceptmecough* mwahahhaha jk.
  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    1 - we have 2 member mods

    2 - we posts faster than they can read

    3 - this is not a full-time job they have
    4- there is no logic in this world(yes, but unfortunately the best moderators weren't selected.)[nounours]

    conclusion : they cannot read everything and some things will be overlooked.

    Solution : if you see something objectionnable that have not been taken care of after a couple of days, PM one of the mods/admins. I tried it, it work very well. What I reported was always swiftly taken care of.
    my stuff is in blue
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    tsukianei wrote: »
    Ah. I could say good point, and let you have your cookie. However, when you say "deem themselves about rational thought of humanity" you have to understand, people suck. Yes, that's right, in my honest opinion, humanity is faulty. We could go on a huge debate about humanity and the reasons why humanity is not the solution but part of the problem, but this is not the time, nor place.

    When I stated "You have succeeded in taking your personal opinion against an individual and perverted it into a debate amongst the community," I did mean just what that sentence tells you. However, the debate was in motion to start as soon as the thread provider made his post.

    It was only a matter of time before the inevitable post defending Roxy was made and the **** hit the fan. I believe he knew what was going to happen once he made this thread. Sparking a debate would only make the developers think harder on the subject at hand. My mistake, as well as everyone else's was feeding the troll.

    Do I think that I am better than some people? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. It's Darwinism at its best, equality among humanity is a faded out dream, it doesn't exist.

    I have to say its going to be very entertaining to talk to you ;D because to be honest people just skim over my rational thought process I go by and dismiss me as....carebear D:

    Well anyway to respond to your post

    You are right humanity does suck, but you also have to acknowledge the fact that you suck, since you are in fact a human whether you like it or not. Whether your idea makes more logical sense then others is irrelevant. Think of it as applied to Socrates, when people used to tell him he is a great man he just replied that he is no better then them. He just seeked to find universal answers, he never in fact ever try to answer them because that is beyond a human's frame of thought. Some people might call his work after such reason, useless. Though I consider him the perfect example of how....insightful a human's conscience can be
    .
    Its not really about feeding the troll. I don't know if you ever played Perfect world Malaysian and over there us forum users were constantly blocked, shunned by admins for being open to talk about the smallest of things. Ever slight justifiable criticism against them or their methods was brutally punished harshly. So thats why we try to change things around here.
    Trust me when I say the last thing you want is the admins starting to choose whats right and whats wrong. Even though this is their forum its a very complicated analogy in game and especially in life. A lot of people were pissed off about such issues. I remember massamune specifically from PW-MY who comes here. Although this time we argue against each other I still hold the fact that this openness is really coveted when you do not have it

    Well thats it right. You answered the question yourself :P You may /think/ you are above humans but in reality we're all the same poor sops trying to get by on this marble. Don't get me wrong, I foremost get the feeling that I am more knowledgable or more logical then other people but the difference is that I still know that at the end of the day I am no better then them :P

    Wouldn't you agree ?

    P.S. This is for philosophical posters only >_> If a member of RQ flames me for being cabear again I'll have to cry myself to sleep tonight :'( and mystic doesn't like it when I don't put out before we go to bed :(
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  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    roxy wrote: »
    It has been 2 days since I became a moderator, and I haven't stumbled into other inappropriate languages, yet. ( By the way, that infraction wasn't fake. )

    You know what, just for giggles:

    http://i37.tinypic.com/r215sg.jpg
    http://i37.tinypic.com/2rpa73s.jpg

    If you guys are saying I have a male organ, I guess you're calling me a transgender then. =P

    I'M A GIRL TOO

    http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/RageQuitFraps/mysticshower.jpg

    http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/RageQuitFraps/mystic.jpg

    Doesn't make you special, sorry.

    That said, member mods are a horrible idea, always have been, I've never said anything about them other than that. And the ones appointed the position have, in my opinion, proven my point. I have treated them well, out of duty, but to be honest every post by them I read I get a little bit angrier at the way they make PW-I look, and the way they make Orinj and Xarfox look.

    That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

    In before "NO I AM SPECIAL!" infraction.

    P.S: Member moderators, want to get the community's respect? Ban Karmelia. Again.
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    Selfish blood runs through my veins. I gave up everything for fame.

    Pandora - 8X Mage - Lost City (PvP - The only server worth playing.)
  • danubus37
    danubus37 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ren wrote: »
    esuX was given a fake infraction pm for a joke saying Roxy has a ****, in other words, is a man (we all know females don't use teh intarwebs).
    And his post was edited. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=369011&postcount=37

    Now, this normally would be fine and all, BUT.
    There are double standards going around this forum and it's bulls***.
    t0yo, and quite a countless few other people use much worse language and constantly make sexual references, and nothing happens.
    Roxy stretches her power because she was personally offended by esuX's obvious joke somehow. Perhaps he really is a man...

    Looking at Roxy's posts in general makes me wonder why she was mod in the first place, and this bias warrants her position being removed. At least Ryuuzaki is useful, yet I haven't seen Roxy doing anything much warranting her job.

    You RQ guys need to be banned altogether from the forums and game. Your nothing but trouble makers. Im starting to think this community is getting as bad as WoWs and this game forum has been up hardly 2 months.:rolleyes:
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    danubus37 wrote: »
    You RQ guys need to be banned altogether from the forums and game. Your nothing but trouble makers. Im starting to think this community is getting as bad as WoWs and this game forum has been up hardly 2 months.:rolleyes:

    We criticize. If you can't handle some criticism then you should try playing real life for a while
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  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    danubus37 wrote: »
    You RQ guys need to be banned altogether from the forums and game. Your nothing but trouble makers. Im starting to think this community is getting as bad as WoWs and this game forum has been up hardly 2 months.:rolleyes:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=10701

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=3661

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=3671

    Damn troublemakers, we're the plague of this forum.

    Dunno who the hell you are, kid, but RQ's proven our worth to this forum and we've done more for it than any other guild has. Open your eyes before you post. Generalizing us without looking around first makes you a total ****.
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  • tatakairyu
    tatakairyu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    RQ aren't as bad as people make them out to be. People tend to flame them and then they flame back but it isn't entirely their fault.
  • ryotakee
    ryotakee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Meeh, thread still running <3

    ~yal.
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  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    mystic wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=10701

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=3661

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=3671

    Damn troublemakers, we're the plague of this forum.

    Dunno who the hell you are, kid, but RQ's proven our worth to this forum and we've done more for it than any other guild has. Open your eyes before you post. Generalizing us without looking around first makes you a total ****.

    You know what mytic i sould join RQ;)
  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    You know what mytic i sould join RQ;)

    We're not recruiting at the moment.

    We'll be opening up recruitment, possibly, when open beta opens.

    But not to you.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Selfish blood runs through my veins. I gave up everything for fame.

    Pandora - 8X Mage - Lost City (PvP - The only server worth playing.)
  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    mystic wrote: »
    we're Not Recruiting At The Moment.

    We'll Be Opening Up Recruitment, Possibly, When Open Beta Opens.

    But Not To You.

    It Was A Joke!! You Really Think I Wanna Join Rq?
    I Ve My Own Guild Btw
    what kind of guild is rq: http://i19.tinypic.com/817l4ky.jpg / http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=3661 (DANGEROUS)!!
  • rzx
    rzx Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Who cares, seriously? You people need to grow up and relax.

    This is why I steer clear of F2P games, the community consists of 10 year old children.
  • faruxue
    faruxue Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    You're just jealous that you didn't get to be a mod, you people keep referring to "a mob should be the best", are you the best? From the B*tching i see here you're far from it. It's the admins that decide who is the best suited for the job, apparently you aren't selected.

    So what if she pulled some strings? so what if the admins like her more? I dont give a damn, you're all sour grapes because you didn't have the connections. Life is not fair.
    You can go B*tch at bill gate's son that he has so much money only because his dad is rich, but no one will give a ****, same thing applies here how Roxy got to be a mod only because she "has friends", and no one will give a ****. You're all just jealous, and all your B*tching isn't going to change a thing. Hell will freeze over before xarfox/orinj lets you whiners be a mod.

    Hey admins, i have a suggestion, ban all the RQs from the forums(some should have stay banned from the first time) and we'll have less useless drama.
    ULTIMATE TOPIC:
    See 3 RQ get owned by 1 WB
    copy and paste onto your web link
    pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=33421
  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    I Ve My Own Guild Btw

    I'm sorry to hear that. Those poor people.
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