Proof why member moderators do not work.

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  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    I am totaly ageist Roxy,
    she seems just being some tean, haveing fun and ower useing her power, who got idea to make her mod really( i have feeling admins will jump on me)?
    How ever Ruusuki do a great work.

    Don't worry nounours the mods/admins are the least kind of people you should be worry about jumping you. See, they have to follow protocols...sets of rules to which they have to engage in when dealing with you....


    Others, the different side of the coin, don't really need to bother with pety morality or a set of rules to direct them towards a plan. We tend to, go with the flow ;D

    If your posts had more sense to them then I'd take you seriously but as it is? You're just being sexist with roxy
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  • ryotakee
    ryotakee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    shes a girl, shes doing good.

    Girls are on the internet yes, thats true.

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  • tsukianei
    tsukianei Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    sahrai wrote: »
    If you want to insult the IQ of others, perhaps you ought to precede your posts with something that might have contained a little more thought. Ren doesn't want member mods, thus he doesn't want to be a member mod. How could he possibly be jealous?

    Well for one, if I was a jealous moron, I would more than likely come to that little excuse myself. Having a member mod establishes trust from the developers of the game to the users of the forum. Having a bond of trust between the developers and the users and vice-versa, and showing that trust to the general public emits a good image.

    The company looks good and nice, and the users have something to look forward to. It's a good decision, or at least in my opinion anyway.

    When in a situation where you are jealous, you'll quickly come up with something to use against that person. I see it happen all the time why shouldn't it be the case here? Logic and psychology would dictate that he is jealous.
  • itch
    itch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ryotakee wrote: »
    shes a girl, shes doing good.

    Girls are on the internet yes, thats true.

    ~Yal

    So by being a girl makes you instantly acceptable in the community and as a moderator which she got "promoted" to because she is a friend of the devs/staff/gm whatever? And no, do not try to deny that fact, it is so ***** obvious.
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  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    tsukianei wrote: »
    So... Editing a post, sticking a couple of threads, make you a bad mod? So, moderation in general makes you a bad mod? Your logic... isn't very good.

    Yes because i know people here who do better work, and they are even not mods, you see my logic?
  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    itch wrote: »
    So by being a girl makes you instantly acceptable in the community and as a moderator which she got "promoted" to because she is a friend of the devs/staff/gm whatever? And no, do not try to deny that fact, it is so ***** obvious.

    Yes I think girls should have an advantage over boys because boys are so desperate.

    Seriously, talk about hormonal levels you dudes really take the cake xD
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  • kinetikop
    kinetikop Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    5. No inappropriate language.
    Inappropriate language includes, but is not limited to, the following language types:

    - Offensive
    - Unlawful
    - Harmful
    - Threatening
    - Abusive
    - Harassing
    - Defamatory
    - Vulgar
    - Obscene
    - Hateful
    - Discriminatory (age, gender, ethnicity, etc.)
    - Objectionable Language

    6. No inappropriate discussion types.
    Inappropriate discussion-types include, but are not limited to, the following discussion types:

    - Political
    - Religious
    - Sexual
    - Relating to National Affairs
    - Containing any of the inappropriate language types listed above

    7. No harassing board members.
    This applies to both public posts and private messages.

    Those were all broken in the post. If it was only 1 i could see letting it go but it wasn't.

    22. No public discussion about disciplinary action administered to members.
    If you have any questions regarding rules, disciplinary actions, or even a thread move, please use the PM function of the board to contact us.

    That was broken in this post and thus the OP should receive some form of action against himself as well.
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  • tyddraig
    tyddraig Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    You know on the PSO-World forums If some one insults a mod then it gets changed by the mod or any mod that ctaches it, if they see something that should not be thereIe racism ect they will edit it and leave you a warning in the edit.

    And does any one whine over there that they are bad mods? no, no they don't and rest asure that some of them are memeber mods, or werre at least years ago.

    So roxy has been a mod for 2 whole days and all ready people are trying to get rid of her, sounds a bit malicious to me. If the mods/admins really had a problem something would of been done about it, however, from out knowledge nothing has, so with that, roxy was in the right the whinners are in the wrong everyone else gets free cake.
  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    sahrai wrote: »
    If what was edited out was true then honestly roxy, you need to have thicker skin. If you can't handle something as minor as that without having to edit out what personally offends you, then what are you going to do when someone has a serious complaint about you?

    esux's post fell under at least two of those :
    5. No inappropriate language.
    Inappropriate language includes, but is not limited to, the following language types:

    - Offensive
    - Unlawful
    - Harmful
    - Threatening
    - Abusive
    - Harassing
    - Defamatory
    - Vulgar
    - Obscene
    - Hateful
    - Discriminatory (age, gender, ethnicity, etc.)
    - Objectionable Language

    The edit was justified.
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • sahrai
    sahrai Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    Yes I think girls should have an advantage over boys because boys are so desperate.

    Seriously, talk about hormonal levels you dudes really take the cake xD

    Only the person you're making that comment to is married to me. Try again, t0yo.
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  • tsukianei
    tsukianei Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    itch wrote: »
    So by being a girl makes you instantly acceptable in the community and as a moderator which she got "promoted" to because she is a friend of the devs/staff/gm whatever? And no, do not try to deny that fact, it is so ***** obvious.

    Having a friend promote you just makes things easier. Obviously, she would have never been promoted if she didn't display the kinds of qualities that the company wants to see in its moderators.

    Sure, I may have a friend in the company, but even so, I would never be promoted basically due to the fact that I would have banhammered three certain people in this thread out of existence by now. ^_^
  • ryotakee
    ryotakee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    itch wrote: »
    So by being a girl makes you instantly acceptable in the community and as a moderator which she got "promoted" to because she is a friend of the devs/staff/gm whatever? And no, do not try to deny that fact, it is so ***** obvious.


    Listing, as the mods said they know her from some mmo things, that shes a gm of something,
    I heard it, correct me if i am wrong.

    but if its the reason because shes a friend of the pwi staff, then its the other way around.

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  • sahrai
    sahrai Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    esux's post fell under at least two of those :



    The edit was justified.

    Right, and when you talk about "typical" RQ behaviour when responding to the same 2-3 people your posts fall under these categories

    - Offensive
    - Unlawful
    - Harassing
    - Defamatory
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  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    esux's post fell under at least two of those :



    The edit was justified.



    You missed the point. Its not that esux broke the rules, its that others who broke the same rules didn't get their posts edited. The only reason roxy enforced the edit was because the post was directed to her
    sahrai wrote: »
    Only the person you're making that comment to is married to me. Try again, t0yo.

    She's also the person who also cares hun. Try again :(
    sahrai wrote: »
    Right, and when you talk about "typical" RQ behaviour when responding to the same 2-3 people your posts fall under these categories

    - Offensive
    - Unlawful
    - Harassing
    - Defamatory

    But when you're right, you're right
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  • tyddraig
    tyddraig Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    "Can't we all just get along" - Imp, WoW. QFT
  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    You missed the point. Its not that esux broke the rules, its that others who broke the same rules didn't get their posts edited. The only reason roxy enforced the edit was because the post was directed to her

    Links please?
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • zakkusu
    zakkusu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Well it's her first "mistake" in some people's eyes so why not give her more chances, besides if she had done something truly wrong admins would take care of the situation. And the fact of the matter is BECAUSE the comment was directly toward her she edited because it offended her which is perfectly fine in my opinion.
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  • kinetikop
    kinetikop Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    22. No public discussion about disciplinary action administered to members.
    If you have any questions regarding rules, disciplinary actions, or even a thread move, please use the PM function of the board to contact us.

    close this thread please.
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  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    karmelia wrote: »
    Links please?

    You can search any of my posts. Lol
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  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I'm really disappointed, you jump at the Mod for doing the right thing, yet you support your GUILDMATE for saying she has a ****? Is this even any of yours or your Guild Mates business.

    Hey and at least Roxy is stepping up and laying her case down, where as in other Forums, Mods hide when they're flammed.
  • nounours
    nounours Posts: 453
    edited August 2008
    Ok, just lets agree about something, people who becomes mod should be the best, admins said by them self that only qualified people could become mod,
    but we all see that roxy doesnt seem have any qualification,
    also i have to say this: we are in an international forum a mod cant censure what we say by any kind of editing or deleting a post!
    Where is the freedom (freedom to think what, freedom to say what we think)?
  • tatakairyu
    tatakairyu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    You can search any of my posts. Lol

    Made me lol, admits to his own crimes but anyway!

    Most of them were before she was a mod I'm assuming because she recently became a mod (correct me if I'm wrong) but that's one of the reasons why people should give her a chance.

    Nothing like going back to all those old posts and editing them, I probably would have done the same, focus on present issues and those to come.
  • poolia
    poolia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    You know what's really sad?
    I visit these forums almost every day and all I see is Flame after Flame after Flame.
    This isnt a community... its a war zone!
    My guess is the only reason Roxy has not locked this thread already is that someone would flame her for that too o.O
  • kinetikop
    kinetikop Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    Ok, just lets agree about something, people who becomes mod should be the best, admins said by them self that only qualified people could become mod,
    but we all see that roxy doesnt seem have any qualification,
    also i have to say this: we are in an international forum a mod cant censure what we say by any kind of editing or deleting a post!

    You are completely wrong about everything you have said. Roxy DOES have qualifications, she has been a GM of other games and has done nothing wrong so far. Also they have the rights to censor anything you say that breaks a rule. This forum will have young and old people alike on it, and in that sense you must keep the content appropriate.
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  • itch
    itch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I thought a mod should not be abusing his or hers powers to deal with PERSONAL ISSUES. /hmm

    Also t0yo... nvm.
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  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    You can search any of my posts. Lol

    Looked at your posts for the past 2 days.

    Nothing in the like of what esux posted in your posts.

    You don't expect her to go through all that was posted before she became a mod, do you?
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • tsukianei
    tsukianei Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    nounours wrote: »
    Ok, just lets agree about something, people who becomes mod should be the best, admins said by them self that only qualified people could become mod,
    but we all see that roxy doesnt seem have any qualification,
    also i have to say this: we are in an international forum a mod cant censure what we say by any kind of editing or deleting a post!
    Where is the freedom (freedom to think what, freedom to say what we think)?

    You're really narrow minded aren't you? It's going to be fun messing with your head. All I have to do is wait until you give me a reason... That could take forever. *Takes nap*
  • ryotakee
    ryotakee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    meeh, some1 re-write the story please T.T

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  • t0yo
    t0yo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    tatakairyu wrote: »
    Made me lol, admits to his own crimes but anyway!

    Most of them were before she was a mod I'm assuming because she recently became a mod (correct me if I'm wrong) but that's one of the reasons why people should give her a chance.

    Nothing like going back to all those old posts and editing them, I probably would have done the same, focus on present issues and those to come.

    You think I'm actually going to go edit all my posts xD

    See the only difference between people like me and people like you, is we know we're human, we don't petty ourselves in fighting our weaknesses in some elaborate ploy to become as near god like as possible. No. We rely on our weaknesses to strengthen us, define us as who we are as a person.

    Just like they say the crazy people don't know they're crazy
    karmelia wrote: »
    Looked at your posts for the past 2 days.

    Nothing in the like of what esux posted in your posts.

    You don't expect her to go through all that was posted before she became a mod, do you?

    Moderators are moderators, there are no buts :P
    itch wrote: »
    I thought a mod should not be abusing his or hers powers to deal with PERSONAL ISSUES. /hmm

    Also t0yo... nvm.

    Dude, post was being sarcastic xP
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  • itch
    itch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    kinetikop wrote: »
    You are completely wrong about everything you have said. Roxy DOES have qualifications, she has been a GM of other games and has done nothing wrong so far. Also they have the rights to censor anything you say that breaks a rule. This forum will have young and old people alike on it, and in that sense you must keep the content appropriate.

    Lets think about it this way: IF she wouldn't know anyone in the Staff, she most probably would NOT have Mod powers. Don't try to fool me, I know I'm right about this and you know it too.

    EDIT: I got nothing against Roxy in a personal level. My opinion is clearly based on the facts.
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