Newcomers Read This Before Choosing PvP
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You're sick and perverted.
WHERE WERE YOU IN ROHAN!?
I do this all the time >_> Just because I quit because my super awesome special powers detected it was ultimate fail you all forgot about me D;
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How would Zhenning go in a PVE server?
Imagine this:
A Zhen party is setup, 2 DD, 1 EP and 3 lurers.
An EP and MG come by and think sweet. They setup zhen in the Zhen of the others and let the lurers do the luring for them also.
Org Zhen party is fed up and move a little bit further away. EP and MG follow them. Zhen party gets annoyed and dissasembles..........0 -
How would Zhenning go in a PVE server?
Imagine this:
A Zhen party is setup, 2 DD, 1 EP and 3 lurers.
An EP and MG come by and think sweet. They setup zhen in the Zhen of the others and let the lurers do the luring for them also.
Org Zhen party is fed up and move a little bit further away. EP and MG follow them. Zhen party gets annoyed and dissasembles..........
This is very true, but conversely in a pvp enforced server the zhen party has to deal with enemy guilds crashing them whenever they like.
Neither is ideal, they're just different.0 -
This is very true, but conversely in a pvp enforced server the zhen party has to deal with enemy guilds crashing them whenever they like.
Neither is ideal, they're just different.
You're correct there is no better solution. Both has it advantages and disadvantages. In a PVE server there you would suffer more from bored players since harassing ppl has little disadvantages. While in a PVP server you would get more guild drama like KOS.0 -
both are good. like someone suggested previously just play both in CB.
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In one they'll shout "Come out of the safe zone you $*&%@"
In one they'll shout "Turn on PK you &#^*%*"
Same thing really, even in a pvp enforced server there's far more talk than actual fighting.0 -
'm not trying to promote the PvE server in this post but what I'm trying to do is give people a different view of the PvP/PvE situation.
-I have to say that you should not make the decision of playing PvP or PvE from someone on this forum. If you are not already totally brainwashed into thinking that the PvE server will be 24/7 KS fest PLEASE try both versions in the closed beta especially if you are new to this game.
-Newcomers have to realize that there isnt a game changing amount of KSing in the PvE server.
Yes, you may get KSed but I have leveled 2 characters past 50 and only 2 times I got ksed. Only a very small amount of people kill steal mobs, and getting ksed is no big deal. If you are killing a mob, you move over to another area. There are plenty of every type of mobs everywhere to satisfy everyone.
Again, these are just my thoughts and i'm not saying PvP is bad and PvE is good. Everyone has their opinions im just trying to help newcomers that havent experienced this game yet make a decision that suits them best. I didnt post these points for them to be argued, so unless im bored I wont argue back.
Also I have a suggestion. The server should be named PvP/PvE because that will give the new players an exact description of what each server is really about.
Think about bots.... guilds wanting to pick on another guild..(**** up their boss-quest). timed quests ruined by others doing timed quests.... someone taking last hit on your mini-boss and getting the quest fullfilled (not you).
I see what you are saying but I have played so many closed beta - to - open beta - I have seen it so often.
The gate opens, and everyone is rushing to the same quests, same time. Of course you cannot pk them till level 30 but .. by then you have an ample list of 'to kills'.
Bots are a major issue - when I was under level 30 they totally screwed up my quests when there were only a few of what I was hunting and I had to run - run and run and got so frustrated because there was 10 of them in my location.
Anywho. they are right.. weigh it and decide. But I bet after 1 week of play many go to PK server because of these problems.
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Think about bots.... guilds wanting to pick on another guild..(**** up their boss-quest). timed quests ruined by others doing timed quests.... someone taking last hit on your mini-boss and getting the quest fullfilled (not you).
I see what you are saying but I have played so many closed beta - to - open beta - I have seen it so often.
The gate opens, and everyone is rushing to the same quests, same time. Of course you cannot pk them till level 30 but .. by then you have an ample list of 'to kills'.
Bots are a major issue - when I was under level 30 they totally screwed up my quests when there were only a few of what I was hunting and I had to run - run and run and got so frustrated because there was 10 of them in my location.
Anywho. they are right.. weigh it and decide. But I bet after 1 week of play many go to PK server because of these problems.
NiaJade
That's why bots get banned? I'm confused by your post. If you're saying there will be more bots in the pve server, won't the GMs be watching that server more? I mean it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if there is not open pk there will probably be more bots, which means we need to watch that server closely[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
why do you people keep bumping this immature batch of lies[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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im joining the server that has more people
i like to talk alot haha
so im guessing its PvP server
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Delete this thread please.
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PvE is optional PvP after level 30. KoS lists and **** still exists on PvE servers, no one cares about penalties. It's easy to jump on another toon to finish your gaming session, then log into the one with the penalty and sit it in town while you go to bed. I can barely tell the difference.
I play PvE, and when I want to PK someone I back out of range so he doesn't have a clue what's coming to him, turn PK on, and go to town on the guy. It is great satisfaction to PK KSing players, or just players who are ruining your fun...even if you lose the battle.
I admit, I've KSed people inadvertently because I thought I was badass. And you know you are going to get it when a player is just standing watching you lol.
Optional PvP is great fun!0 -
why?
he's fairly correct, the PVP server is bound to have more people in it.
Well, in Rappelz, which sounds like the PvP system is similar to this game, there are 5 PvE servers and only 1 PvP server.
I'm sure there are some differences, but it really sounds similar:
In Rappelz, you have optional PK mode after a certain level (20 I think). If you PK you receive a debuff called wrath which lasts like an hour per kill. Also, your name becomes red as you PK more which will make it free-for-all on you regardless of PK mode or not. But, you hardly see red names unless you are in town and it only takes **** items to remove the red name. But, it still takes the hour per kill in game to remove the wrath.
Anyway, it sounds similar to PW, so I don't see why PW would be so different so I think there will be more PvE players.0 -
Well, in Rappelz, which sounds like the PvP system is similar to this game, there are 5 PvE servers and only 1 PvP server.
I'm sure there are some differences, but it really sounds similar:
In Rappelz, you have optional PK mode after a certain level (20 I think). If you PK you receive a debuff called wrath which lasts like an hour per kill. Also, your name becomes red as you PK more which will make it free-for-all on you regardless of PK mode or not. But, you hardly see red names unless you are in town and it only takes **** items to remove the red name. But, it still takes the hour per kill in game to remove the wrath.
Anyway, it sounds similar to PW, so I don't see why PW would be so different so I think there will be more PvE players.
from what i heard PW MY refused to make a PVE server because another company who had a PVE server up had problems getting it populated and it ultimately failed and was a drain of money.
EDIT- OOPZ LOL I thought this topic had 1 page, i just now read the first page, why the hell do people care so much about KS?0 -
I play PvE, and when I want to PK someone I back out of range so he doesn't have a clue what's coming to him, turn PK on, and go to town on the guy.
To do that you'll need to go on the PvP server.
On the optional PvP server, your name is blue if you have set PvP to off. You cannot attack a blue-named char.from what i heard PW MY refused to make a PVE server because another company who had a PVE server up had problems getting it populated and it ultimately failed and was a drain of money.
That's why the Japanese/Philippine and Chinese server are doing well : they have the optional PvP set on.
Cubinet refused to set up an optional PvP server because they wanted to make more money with dolls.why?
he's fairly correct, the PVP server is bound to have more people in it.
Amusing note : why is it always the PvP players saying that? Afraid that the PvP server won't be as populated as the optional-PvP one or what?Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
from what i heard PW MY refused to make a PVE server because another company who had a PVE server up had problems getting it populated and it ultimately failed and was a drain of money.
I see. However, this game is opening up in North America. The majority of people think different than the majority on the MY servers. So who knows.
But, I anticipate both servers being popular and more servers being added....but maybe more PvE.0 -
from what i heard PW MY refused to make a PVE server because another company who had a PVE server up had problems getting it populated and it ultimately failed and was a drain of money.
its because no one will buy dolls and less heiros are bought in the pve serverI like to rub it in. Enjoying the game?
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To do that you'll need to go on the PvP server.
On the optional PvP server, your name is blue if you have set PvP to off. You cannot attack a blue-named char.
That's why the Japanese/Philippine and Chinese server are doing well : they have the optional PvP set on.
Cubinet refused to set up an optional PvP server because they wanted to make more money with dolls.
Hmm, if that is so I will be on the PvP server. But, I've read another user who said that people are confused about this and that PvE is actually optional PK after lvl 30, and PvP is no PK mode. Everyone is fair game outside of safe zones on PvP. So, now I'm confused where I'm going.0 -
its because no one will buy dolls and less heiros are bought in the pve server
Less dolls and more hiero I would say.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
Here's the link to the PvP thread where a guy is saying that PvE is optional PvP (the kind I want)
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=65610 -
Hmm, if that is so I will be on the PvP server. But, I've read another user who said that people are confused about this and that PvE is actually optional PK after lvl 30, and PvP is no PK mode. Everyone is fair game outside of safe zones on PvP. So, now I'm confused where I'm going.
Open PvP server : At level 30, your name turn white, and you are fair game to eveyrone also at level 30 or above, outside of safe zone. And everyone is fair game to you too :cool:
Optional PvP (what people wrongly label as PvE) : At level 30, you can choose to have PvP set to on or off.
Off : your name is blue and no one can attack you and you cannot attack anyone
on : your name become white and everyone else who also have the PvP option set at on can attack you, and you can likewise attack everyone not blue named. (outside of safe zone as usual) :cool:Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
Amusing note : why is it always the PvP players saying that? Afraid that the PvP server won't be as populated as the optional-PvP one or what?
It WON'T be because we are the only PW version available to english with a carebear server. People will come here for the pve...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It WON'T be because we are the only PW version available to english with a carebear server. People will come here for the pve...
Well, the gankers will go on the open-PvP server and the non-gankers on the optional-PvP server.
Personnally, I do believe both server will be successful.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
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Open PvP server : At level 30, your name turn white, and you are fair game to eveyrone also at level 30 or above, outside of safe zone. And everyone is fair game to you too :cool:
Optional PvP (what people wrongly label as PvE) : At level 30, you can choose to have PvP set to on or off.
Off : your name is blue and no one can attack you and you cannot attack anyone
on : your name become white and everyone else who also have the PvP option set at on can attack you, and you can likewise attack everyone not blue named. (outside of safe zone as usual) :cool:
Hmmm...so you can't attack a blue if you go white? ****! It should be if you go white, you can kill blue and white, and white and blue can kill you. I'll have to put this in the suggestions....now I don't know which I want cause optional PvP is pointless.0 -
****! It should be if you go white, you can kill blue and white, and white and blue can kill you.
Well, doing as you say would mean free open PvP for anyone starting from level one.
If you could kill blue and white if you are white, there is no point in putting a PvP off option to begin with.
Optional PvP is not pointless. The point of the optional-PvP is to allow you to PvP when you want. Not when the other wants.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
I hate to be the bearer of bad news... no wait... I LOVE to be the bearer of these bad news!
Attitude problems+ kill-anyone-you-can-anytime-you-want+ anonimity+ fame-derived-from-hate = frustrating PVP server experience.
You WILL get ganked just because people have nothing to do and cause "lol nub pvp server l2p lol!".
You wanna have some fun PvEing and dueling and heck going after the people who purposley flag themselves for PvP/PK once in a while? Roll on the PvE server.
Afraid of being KSed ? Move 20 paces to the north! And I'm preeeeeeeeehhheeeety sure that if someone keeps KSing just for the heck of it, you'll get a helping hand from the GMs.
/care because sometimes I honestly do!0 -
Well, doing as you say would mean free open PvP for anyone starting from level one.
If you could kill blue and white if you are white, there is no point in putting a PvP off option to begin with.
Optional PvP is not pointless. The point of the optional-PvP is to allow you to PvP when you want. Not when the other wants.
Yes, it is open PvP...kinda. At any point war could be declared by either player. But, there should be a timer and a flashing name showing all in the area that a player is changing modes. Then, the other can choose to either accept the challenge, or back off. The only benefit this has over normal PvP is that if someone is just being a jerk or idiot and deserves to be PKed, then you can do so. Normal PvP is more chaotic.
I use PK as a deterrent of players that are hindering my enjoyment. If I don't have the option, then I would have to be the one who leaves and that really isn't very fair. A blue player could just do whatever they felt like and take your kills and all sorts of mischeif like agging a train of monsters to your location and dropping them off to kill you without any option to exact justice.0 -
I hate to be the bearer of bad news... no wait... I LOVE to be the bearer of these bad news!
Attitude problems+ kill-anyone-you-can-anytime-you-want+ anonimity+ fame-derived-from-hate = frustrating PVP server experience.
You WILL get ganked just because people have nothing to do and cause "lol nub pvp server l2p lol!".
You wanna have some fun PvEing and dueling and heck going after the people who purposley flag themselves for PvP/PK once in a while? Roll on the PvE server.
Afraid of being KSed ? Move 20 paces to the north! And I'm preeeeeeeeehhheeeety sure that if someone keeps KSing just for the heck of it, you'll get a helping hand from the GMs.
/care because sometimes I honestly do!
That's pretty dumb if you have to whine to a GM because a player is KSing. The power should be in the community to deal with the problem.
I think i'm going PvP, even though I don't do hardly any PvP in other games.0 -
You WILL get ganked just because people have nothing to do and cause "lol nub pvp server l2p lol!".
Quite frankly, I don't think the PvP server will be a 24 hours around the clock PK festival.
And the optional-PvP server won't be a 24 hours around the clock KS festival either.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0
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