THE most pointless skill in PWI

ice
ice Posts: 45 Arc User
edited October 2008 in General Discussion
I was looking at the elf skill today and I found this very interesting. As you all know, there is one skill in elf race that is increasing flying speed. However, this skill only apply to the original wing you start with in the game. Even if you reach level 10 of that skill, your flying speed is still slower than speed of wings from cash shop. As far as I concerned, this skill does not apply to cash shop wings. I think most of people will end up buying cash shop wings not only because it doesn't waste mp, but also because it looks cool and way faster. So, what is the point of learning that skill? It will be a total waste of game money and spirit to possibly learn other skill.:confused::confused:

PLUS: most early part of the game do not require you to fight flying mob or travel long distance by flying.
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  • devotion
    devotion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    then dont get it :P
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  • soukyuu
    soukyuu Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    well, it's not that useless if you don't want to spend real money. clerics' mp regen is higher tahn the wings' drain so they are useful for them, below lvl30, if you want to level in party it's easier to be in the air to not have to deal with mobs aggroing you. the problem clerics have is that they lack SP in general, so maxing flight mastery is a waste.

    oh and starter wings with maxed mastery are faster than some cash shop wings.
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  • seawolf
    seawolf Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Clerics don't really have to worry about the 2MP drain. Archers can get by with some MP regen gear when flying long distances.

    Then it comes down to if you want to spend about 100k SP and 100k gold to fly at +2.0 or spend 12M+ for 2.0 cash shop wings or 20M+ for 2.5 cash shop wings. It just gives an option for those who don't spend a ton on cash shop items or want to save money for other purchases.
  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    devotion wrote: »
    then dont get it :P

    No, the point is not just say OK, DON'T GET IT

    yes, if you level up to 10, the speed is greater than some cash shop wing, but very few. The normal speed is +1.5. however, if you want to pk or save time traveling, or simply want to look nice, you will buy the cash shop wing. Especially, if you want to chase down enemy:rolleyes:

    When you buy a cash shop wing, there are no purpose for that skill. That is my point. I suggest if possible, this skill can also apply to the cash shop wing. That way, there is meaning to learn this skill throughout the game.
  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I believe right now there is cash shop wing that is +3.00 under normal circumstance, and level 10 of that skill give you +1.50 for normal, I think. Can someone double check for that?
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Actually, the most useless skill is the Frost-Enchanted Weapon buff from MGs.
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  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    My bad, it is +2.00. However, there is not pump up speed. The wings you get from cash shop can pump up speed, which a wing with normal +0.50 will be up to +2.50. So, there is still difference.
  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    Actually, the most useless skill is the Frost-Enchanted Weapon buff from MGs.

    Actually, is that the one that slower enemy down by 50%? It is very useful.
  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    My suggestion for this is whether if possible, this skill can also apply to cash shop wings? That give a purpose to learn this flying skill
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    No, it's the one that makes your friends' weapons glow with extra frost damage. I hear the added damage is abysmal to nonexistant.
    Edit: Applying flying mastery to Elves' cash shop wings would give an extremely unfair advantage.
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  • seawolf
    seawolf Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    The point is not everyone can afford cash shop wings. It gives another option. If you can afford cash shop wings, then yes, flight mastery is not useful. Yes, there are 3.0 wings in a later patch down the line. If every single elf in the game bought the 3.0 wings from the cash shop, PWE would be rich.

    Just like if you are axe blademaster, you never touch the 59 fist skill for example.

    Off topic, but the frost skill is noticable if you actually test it out. But it only works on physical damage things. So archers, blademasters and barbarians benefit from this buff mainly.
  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Anyway, by level 89, you'll be able to max all your skills, including the flying mastery one.
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  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    Actually, the most useless skill is the Frost-Enchanted Weapon buff from MGs.

    Is that Buff from wizard? I check archer's skill list and it is not on there. Still, that buff can give to blademaster or archer, so their attack have magical damage.
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, it is. And it does next to nothing, regardless of whatever it says it does...
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  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    No, it's the one that makes your friends' weapons glow with extra frost damage. I hear the added damage is abysmal to nonexistant.
    Edit: Applying flying mastery to Elves' cash shop wings would give an extremely unfair advantage.

    That is from wizard. HA:D, that is what I wonder, it could just add the normal flying speed, and it won't give an extreme unfair advantage
  • ice
    ice Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    From what I learn, you can buy the cash shop money using game money. So the cash shop wing is not unaffordable. If you want to chase enemy during PK, then there you go
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Just having the cash shop wings is fair enough. Adding wing mastery is too much of an advantage for Elfkind.
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  • devotion
    devotion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    yep all classes have to be able to fly the same speed
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  • embl3m
    embl3m Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    Actually, the most useless skill is the Frost-Enchanted Weapon buff from MGs.

    Q T F

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  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    It's actually QFT.
    embl3m wrote: »
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  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    That skill was created for levels 1-30. You can't buy cash shop wings until level 30. You end up wanting to use the flying skill a lot even at low levels because it's a very convenient way to travel. However, it's not fun to fly if you're going really slow. Besides, the increase speed skill isn't expensive. You're not wasting anything by getting it.
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  • ambie
    ambie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I used the wing mastery for a few months actually seeing i didnt have cash shop wings at the time.
    Fact being i wanted to focus on my gear and the wings seemed somewhat pointless at the time.
    I was given a deer (wings in the end also given)
    so was able to travel across land, I don't buy in-game stuff with real money i just work very hard for it saving :0
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ragingwind wrote: »
    That skill was created for levels 1-30. You can't buy cash shop wings until level 30.

    false, 2.5 speed mount at level 20.
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  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ren wrote: »
    false, 2.5 speed mount at level 20.
    *cough* Uhh... Wings. Hello?!
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    The two headed dragon, the yellow sword, and the seraph wings are all level 20 aviations useable at level 20.

    Ontopic: Flying mastery is god. Black wings = nub D:
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  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    senovit wrote: »
    The two headed dragon, the yellow sword, and the seraph wings are all level 20 aviations useable at level 20.

    Ontopic: Flying mastery is god. Black wings = nub D:
    What?! That's just stupid. Are you saying that people can fly at level 20 if they pay enough? *rolls eyes* What won't this company do? They just undermined the basic design of their own game.
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  • ladyrain
    ladyrain Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    Actually, the most useless skill is the Frost-Enchanted Weapon buff from MGs.

    That skill is useless for solo play, but if you party with a physical damage player (blademaster, barbarian, archer) , the buff adds a respectable amount of water damage for them once you level it. Good for general additional damage, fantastic against fire mobs.

    Flying skill is not useless, either. In the long run, it is not really a significant amount of SP/money to give you a very tangible benefit. However, I do agree that the skill should still apply to cash shop items as it would give elves an advantage in the air (as is the general idea of the race). Just like beastkind has speed advantage in water and humans have teleport/speedup on the ground. As it is, anyone using cash shop items are roughly at par in the air.
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ragingwind wrote: »
    *cough* Uhh... Wings. Hello?!

    same ****, obviously i wasnt talking about land mounts...
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  • lipe124
    lipe124 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I loved that skill and never felt the need to spend money on CS wings because 2m/s is already pretty good. Also the skill doesnt cost that much SP/money either so its not really robbig you of millions of SP.

    As for the idea of it being usable with cs wings.. are you smoking crack? That would mean no one can catch a EP .. EVER. CS wings go up to 6m/s right? so +2.. 8m/s flying speed. Thats just crazy, you could fly up to somone.. PK and fly off again and no one would be able to catch you.
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  • ladyrain
    ladyrain Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    The point I made is that currently elves do not have any speed advantage in the air when most players use cash shop flying devices. Compare this with humans have a skill to give them a speed advantage on land and the beastkind having a skill to give them faster swimming.

    So, it can very well be said that you can pk and then teleport and run away or swim away, with nobody able to catch you (if you are the right race). The +2m/s is for the lv 1 wings. Why not have, say +0.5 m/s for cash shop wings? That would be about at par with other races' advantages in their regions.

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