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@lax I have never done 3v3 before? Roflmao...the dozens of videos I have on this matter surely show that I dont. Also I basically just started playing Edge..I basically 3v3ed on all classes, incl. the oh sooo weak archer and we still managed to beat some NP squads with it. So i will just ignore your comment beyond that point, unless you start making sense again.

Also, when it comes to Mass pvp, there is no other means to play a melee class. What do you expect? Show me another melee class that is pure damage built that can just jump into masses of people and just kill all of them/while tanking anything without the need to use any saves at all. That is the weakness of the edgerunner. It has powerful AOEs but no range whatsoever. Yeah, I can jump in, kill a few dozen people and get out unscathed, I can, but thats the exact same any other class can do with the exception of maybe being unable to get away. Doesnt matter tho. As long as pot/ulti and halo are on CD, I can't do nothing at all vs an overwhelming amount of people. But yes. A class that is REALLY STRONG every 5 Minutes!!! is indeed broken af and needs to be deleted. I agree. Also, the fact that I cant use any protective shield for a while once I used halo and none for a long time if I used 2 shields in a row, making me basically a glorified punching bag for quite some time makes it even stronger, right? Oh I have wings of desolation which is basically like the ulti, with the exception of not being able to attack at all, except ofc with halo. I wish people would play edge some more to finally understand it. Just because I make the best out of a mediocre class does not mean that it's broken. Broken is a class that any bonobo can play and still win with it with minimal effort, like sins used to do, you know? Stun port + eli and someone dies..that is broken. Anything that requires you to use a brain and still leaves you vulnerable in a way is NOT BROKEN BY ANY MEANS. And yes, sins are still much stronger than ER in 3v3. Why? Teamplay. Enemy used genie + pot? CJ + AA, 100% dead. Paralyze + Gap closers is the name of the game, and their own damage also isn't bad at all, still the highest of all classes.

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cosmosia1989 wrote: »

You seem to be rather inexperienced or just not a competitive player. 3v3 is the only place where gear doesnt matter and thus a form of balance is achieved. Anything else is imbalanced af. If you enjoy this, cool, you might as well go to any other RNG-Simulator then or keep being OP in PvE which there are plenty more enjoyable games for as well.

I like ur hype for the game, and if you having fun I ain't gna stop you.
But it's defo pretty clear that you're inexperienced in 3v3. I can tell you that the first 100 games are going to be really fun for you, but after a while every 3v3 battle will just feel like a scripted fight, everyone does the exact same thing, every single time, there's no depth and no skill expression, it's really 1-dimensional. Watch any YouTube video with 3v3s, they are doing the exact same thing every single fight like they are playing off the script they decided on the 30 seconds before the battle started. 60v60 and 80v80 has more depth because there's just more variables, too bad it's too expensive to play. That's eastern MMORPGs for you, pretty ****.

Well, that is why I have my multitude of characters for. If it gets boring or people QQing about a class being too OP, I just use another and have fun again, changing our own squad dynamic tremendously, depending on the class that I chose. Ruby will also switch to wizard sometime and there we go. Finally it pays off that I am the master of alts because I can finally compete with all my toons on equal footing. Also, it is sad that the same strats work consistently vs certain players, it certainly doesnt vs us, we always try to switch it up, time it differently and focus on different targets if people, allowing us to sometimes catch people off guard. I agree tho in that sense. it is especially easy for us because people dont do this. Man there is a certain SB I won't mention that literally plays like a bot. Every. Single. Fight. The same skills and order of skills...even the same timing. It blows my mind, every single fight vs that squad.

I would also welcome it if people go in comps that they feel are the most broken. Yes, please. Tec, Wizard and edge are a close contender for that, just too much damage to handle and focusing each of those classes it not as easy as it may seem, especially considering you need to spam saves as well to stay alive, but I like that. Every little play matters in some matchups, just any small CC at the right situation can get someone killed. That is especially why I like it that people cannot hide in def gear and the fights are decided via mechanics alone. For each play, there needs to be a counterplay or at least you should be able to prepare and avoid the brunt of it, which is possible in most situations.

Currently there is such a massive outcry from Sins and SBs claiming their classes are hyper underpowered and tbh...that is just beyond ridiculous. If I would have played on sin these last 2 weeks people would still cry that sin is too OP, yet they cry that Edge is OP...yet my squad has not lost to an edge yet, at all...seems OP indeed. Overall, the class balancing is pretty OK now. I would have preferred if any class was max attack still, even tho some people are completely unable to utilize the damage potential of a class. But to be fair, that is their own inability to utilize the class to the maximum and no QQing about "oh I am not used to this" or "I would be more comfortable with more def gear" is going to change that.

Ofc most ppl are more comfortable with being more tanky because it allows for far more mistakes without instantly being punished for it. Sorry but not sorry, I do not feel with those people. Just git gud. People have no idea how a good veno, cleric and mystic and BM especially now could **** people with max damage gear. Easy solo kills on basically every class for those 4, without breaking a sweat, while still having a very good survival kit. Maybe its just easy for me to say because due to my low gear I was always used to being an insta-kill for almost everything but our recent 3v3 should show people that we can die too, pretty fast even if we mess up, but that doesnt mean that it is impossible to outplay, predict and stay alive, no matter which class you have. Ofc if people have used pot and genie we go ham on them, since there is no purify spell, once Untarget is triggered as well they are basically defenseless. Then you need your team to defend you with counter-CC or other support and its fine, the same thing applies to us as well. You can also try to kite, which most people dont even attempt which is ridiculous. With the average ping..especially vs melee classes..going into the air will most likely result in you staying alive. Welp anyways, I don't wanna explain PvP now, people should already know all this but somehow they are still stuck in their old meta, unable to adapt.

Again tho, just because something is different and you cannot brute force play the same way as before does not mean that your specific class is weaker now. It just means that you either adapt or you lose, that is what humanity is all about anyways, no? I will also never understand how people can think that switching from one g17 proc to the next has anything to do with skill, neither does switching from a full attack set to a full def set via macro. That shet is the most unfair BS in this game and that is one of the biggest reasons why 3v3 now is much more balanced than anything else. Fights have to be decided by skills and mechanics, not by swapping gear, especially if not everyone has it.

@zoey4u12 Maybe you guys did not do much PvP with the mystic or much teamplay at that..but...who cares if thickets own damage is reduces? it was already low and served to tick def charms, nothing more. The CC and the genie block are the most important parts about Thicket and that is what makes this skill so incredibly strong. Some mystics dont even use the Argent glyph (genie block) on Nature's barrier, yet again I cant understand why. The genie disable is by far the strongest debuff in the entire game, hands down. So much so that a full attack built mystic...all you need is to be demon, 3 spark, Rapid growth, paramount genie skill, thicket and spam NV + AS and you auto-win vs borderline anything that isnt a tec or Edgerunner (cause they can use skills while being CCed). That is hyper-broken. Absorb Soul in general is still one of the, if not THE strongest skill any magic class has to offer. That is as far as damage goes.

Now lets look at the support..in a real fight..if you even bother spawning any pet that is not your ulti for your own protection then you are either fighting ppl that are bad or are bad yourself. The pets are and have always been useless and thus need to be ignored cept for absorbing them maybe. Petals is by far the strongest heal over time that can carry someone on its own with a single cast. Vital Herb is also crazy powerful with the untarget glyph, essentially an AOE save, that no other class even comes close to. Top that off with an insanely powerful and crazy fast heal that mystics can basically spam to stay alive with no issue at all. Mystics didnt get any love because they are already EXTREMELY powerful. Maybe not all aspects of them...but jesus christ, if Mystics would have gotten the same level of Pet management as venomancers did than the class would be so broken, that I even would cry about it 24/7. It's a very strong class in the right hands, some aspects just need to be ignored. Really, all you guys are complaining about are extremely minor issues that don't make the class weak at all. Not in the slightest. Give me a max damage built mystic and I tear anyone apart with it, with ease.

@lv100togekiss The sword skills are crazy powerful if you have a decent sword to use it with, well Roar is kinda meh, but oddly enough the damage isnt pure physical, it is a DoT-Type damage just as shield of halo, absorb soul. Can be used to sneak a nice kill on def charms with 0def but ya, its usually not worth it with swords. The utility BMs have now is crazy good and forces people to basically play with all weapon-types. However, whats your issue with Myriad? Myriad is the highest DD skill BMs got now, deals crazy damage. If you combine it with either a blue glyph on HF or blue glyph on glacial than Myriad either has a higher crit chance or flatout deals more damage on a skill that is already crazy powerful. Ulti, Roar, HF, Myriad and chances are equally geared ppl isnta-explode. It's fantastic!