Blademaster vs barb @ endgame gear -pvp
indrek4ever#9506
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Guys what u think how bm is going to be for pvp whit best of best stuff? nuema portal,g17.4 or 5 weapon and rest of the best stuff?
Just wondering compared barb is bm still gonna be genie does more damage or will it be powerful? barb atm seems to be wery high damage.
And i am talking here going full offensive .I guess both can kill evreything in game.
Just wondering compared barb is bm still gonna be genie does more damage or will it be powerful? barb atm seems to be wery high damage.
And i am talking here going full offensive .I guess both can kill evreything in game.
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maiby i went to far whit g17 weapon lets just stay whit r9 boundles it is more realistic xD .0
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Even with g17.5? Then it is BM in a direct comeptition. With a g17.5 Dual Blade/Swords you can legit Oneshot anything with Flash and can keep constant massive ci rebuilding combos without even having to swap to axes cept for Dragon Rising (Paralyze) and HF.
Still, Barb is easier and requires less gear to be effective and while you can argue that a BM with ulti on and HF can deal just as much or even more damage with a red glyhed Army Crusher AOE, usually you dont use that glyph on an AOE, even on damagebuilt BMs and Arma is always an AOE. In 1v1 BMs are hard to kill even with damage built, but same goes for Barbs with advantages tho. 60+ second faith, 100 def lvl buff and esp Solid Shield and invoke make barbs WAY tankier than BMs. BMs have more locks and more damage potential/Debuffs.0 -
Out of intrest how is archer compared those 2 ? So far i am heard only QQ from evrey endgame archer that ttheyr class is total carbage. But if i am looking on evrey pricate serve rladder archer is top dog wondering whi they are so weak here?0
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Private Server are vastly different than ours. Archer is a very powerful class if you have enough damage.
With a g17.5 zerk Bow and maximum gear an archer can basically instantly kill most classes, even in PWI. They require hardcore gears tho and you need to be at your top game to even get the chance to desl damage before certain classes tear you down.
If you compare barb and BM to an archer, all full +3 att lvl, max gear, Nuema Portal than the archer actually has a fair chance of killing the BM and the Barb (if he kites barbs faith completely) because a full metal combo, followed by a zerkcrit could basically oneshot that barb if he does not have any saves on, which is unlikely tho. Same goes for the BM, tho, if the BM uses marrows, you will be vulnarable to either physical or magical skills, either way getting vulnerable and having less saves than a Barb might die easier to an Archer.
Archer are by no means qeak if you have the damage to kill before you get killed and are insane amounts of fun in Mass pvp when you can snipe targets from the backrow. The reason why most archer QQ is because they simply suck. Ofc, there are classes that are insanely hard for an archer to beat but there are also classes that are insanely easy to kill..like most caster classes on equal gears.
It requires some serious skill tho, most ppl expect to just pewpewpew and kill anything easily and QQ when its not happening. Well played an archer is by all means not the weakest class by a long shot, especially with a zerk weapon. Regular skill spam damage is the highest in the entire game from such a geared archer cause the attacks are very fast and can be chained in fast succession. Archer have never been stronger than at this moment in PWI.0 -
Private Server are vastly different than ours. Archer is a very powerful class if you have enough damage.
With a g17.5 zerk Bow and maximum gear an archer can basically instantly kill most classes, even in PWI. They require hardcore gears tho and you need to be at your top game to even get the chance to desl damage before certain classes tear you down.
If you compare barb and BM to an archer, all full +3 att lvl, max gear, Nuema Portal than the archer actually has a fair chance of killing the BM and the Barb (if he kites barbs faith completely) because a full metal combo, followed by a zerkcrit could basically oneshot that barb if he does not have any saves on, which is unlikely tho. Same goes for the BM, tho, if the BM uses marrows, you will be vulnarable to either physical or magical skills, either way getting vulnerable and having less saves than a Barb might die easier to an Archer.
Archer are by no means qeak if you have the damage to kill before you get killed and are insane amounts of fun in Mass pvp when you can snipe targets from the backrow. The reason why most archer QQ is because they simply suck. Ofc, there are classes that are insanely hard for an archer to beat but there are also classes that are insanely easy to kill..like most caster classes on equal gears.
It requires some serious skill tho, most ppl expect to just pewpewpew and kill anything easily and QQ when its not happening. Well played an archer is by all means not the weakest class by a long shot, especially with a zerk weapon. Regular skill spam damage is the highest in the entire game from such a geared archer cause the attacks are very fast and can be chained in fast succession. Archer have never been stronger than at this moment in PWI.
Ok Joe lets be realistic the g17.5 weapon is just insanely xpensive i think most people never see it lets stay into r9 boundless i think whit that archer chances go way down if i am not mistaken?
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Archer shud be able to kill a barb just fine. A BM however is way more sticky than a barb because of the leaps, and marrow is super effective in defusing the metal combo almost entirely. It would take far too long for an archer to have kill pressure on the BM that I'm pretty sure every single time the archer has kill pressure the BM will have blade hurl up to defuse it. That said, BM is fkn garbage n prolly cudnt even hit the archer enough times in a row to remove the defense charms, let alone kill it. Prolly just a fiesta until either the BM 1shots the archer with a lucky zerkcrit or the archer kills the BM with multiple lucky zerkcrits.
As for BM vs Barb 1v1... Pretty sure in a perfect scenario they'll both have 5APS with G17 claws and its just a massive clownfiesta decided entirely by whose occult ice procs. I dont see how axes could ever compete with that damage potential, since its a melee vs melee match up between 2 classes that are more worried about DPS than DPH. Maybe the BM can have Axes on standby to occasionally try to finish with a red glyph attack (aswell as CCing). Sounds like a dumb runescape quality 1v1 to me, much like almost every other 1v1 in PWI because classes have 0 depth and 90% of the skills are a lottery.0 -
Private Server are vastly different than ours. Archer is a very powerful class if you have enough damage.
With a g17.5 zerk Bow and maximum gear an archer can basically instantly kill most classes, even in PWI. They require hardcore gears tho and you need to be at your top game to even get the chance to desl damage before certain classes tear you down.
If you compare barb and BM to an archer, all full +3 att lvl, max gear, Nuema Portal than the archer actually has a fair chance of killing the BM and the Barb (if he kites barbs faith completely) because a full metal combo, followed by a zerkcrit could basically oneshot that barb if he does not have any saves on, which is unlikely tho. Same goes for the BM, tho, if the BM uses marrows, you will be vulnarable to either physical or magical skills, either way getting vulnerable and having less saves than a Barb might die easier to an Archer.
Archer are by no means qeak if you have the damage to kill before you get killed and are insane amounts of fun in Mass pvp when you can snipe targets from the backrow. The reason why most archer QQ is because they simply suck. Ofc, there are classes that are insanely hard for an archer to beat but there are also classes that are insanely easy to kill..like most caster classes on equal gears.
It requires some serious skill tho, most ppl expect to just pewpewpew and kill anything easily and QQ when its not happening. Well played an archer is by all means not the weakest class by a long shot, especially with a zerk weapon. Regular skill spam damage is the highest in the entire game from such a geared archer cause the attacks are very fast and can be chained in fast succession. Archer have never been stronger than at this moment in PWI.
Are you crazy? You say you need facking overpobered gear and skill to kill something. And thats why is archer not so bad ? Stop drinking please0 -
Archer is purely damage driven. If you can kill something fast then archer is legit vs nearly any class, even sins. Yes, for consistent damage archer kinda needs at least g17.4 with Zerk proc to dish out on par damage to the melee classes and being such an archer with deity shards compared to an equally geared, lets say sin, still has decent chances to kill the sin. Why? The sin can Oneshot the Archer with a decent zerkcrit, yes, but with that weapon the archer can do the same and can dish out loads of skills pretty fast and can jump around to kite the sin to counter tidal/deaden and the already high damage sins have.
Archer needs presure to win, presure means having damage because you absolutely will not be able to outlast genie/pot and class specific saves if the one you are fighting can easily Oneshot you while you can barely tick the charm. Your saves will be long gone before you even have the chance to strike back if your damage sucks.0 -
zombiemaster123 wrote: »Archer is purely damage driven. If you can kill something fast then archer is legit vs nearly any class, even sins. Yes, for consistent damage archer kinda needs at least g17.4 with Zerk proc to dish out on par damage to the melee classes and being such an archer with deity shards compared to an equally geared, lets say sin, still has decent chances to kill the sin. Why? The sin can Oneshot the Archer with a decent zerkcrit, yes, but with that weapon the archer can do the same and can dish out loads of skills pretty fast and can jump around to kite the sin to counter tidal/deaden and the already high damage sins have.
Archer needs presure to win, presure means having damage because you absolutely will not be able to outlast genie/pot and class specific saves if the one you are fighting can easily Oneshot you while you can barely tick the charm. Your saves will be long gone before you even have the chance to strike back if your damage sucks.
Yeah i don't think needing the best item ingame and most expensive kinda qualifyes the class any good where only some can reach
what other can doo whit r9 boundless and r9rr 0 -
OH no, you misunderstand me. Archer is delicate. If you have the damage than an archer is not just good. If you can basically 1- or 2-shot kill most classes then you are a force to be reckoned with and one of the most powerful classes because you can do all if this while outranging all classes. Before they can even reach you they might already die but yeah, I still suggest barb for ease of use.0
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