The future of Dragon's Conquest (xTW)

I'd rather have xNW back.
No waiting game. 40 max players per map so no lag/fps problem.

Or at least alternate every 6 months between xTW and xNW.

I watched the video it cleared up a lot of questions I wondered as to why the factions complained so much

I have to agree on most points in this video. I watched it last night while we did dice, was gonna comment after DH but then there was PK and UP and FSP and bed time. So I apologize if I dont remember everything said.

I think the main issue with xTW is lack of population on our servers, it creates all sorts of problems. As a result, its way too easy to hold lands and this makes lack of "real" battles even worse because factions are split too thin with mass of battles. Which again affects the interest for xTW, making less ppl interested in showing up... Its a vicious cycle. Karma has had 3 50+vs50+ wars this season if I am not mistaken. Comparing that to first or 2nd season where we had "real" fight every other week, yea, its pretty bad.

You came up with a solution(Halving amount of lands) I been thinking myself and I believe it might or might not be enough. I wouldnt however go with larger reduction on start as I would imagine higher chance for real battles would motivate more ppl to show up, which again makes real battles more likely.

As for the waiting wars, I dont like them but I dont see them as a problem as there is way to force ppl to play their hand. Still, I know factions have held some squads out of instances 20+ mins after wars have started, which just doesnt feel right. However allocating squads before you have to generally only screws yourself over so its kinda what it is.

I would also like to touch reward system a bit with this post. I would not boost it further than it is as its already good enough. Maybe add some tiers for 4-10 ranks to motivate factions to do their best on those ranks too cause right now if you arent top3, you can basically do whatever you please and get the same reward as rank4 faction. Assuming your faction has some power in it.

Lastly, I have heard some comments regarding server merges but from what I understand xTW wouldnt work any longer if they did that. That being said, easiest solution prolly would be ghost server(s) to get server count to 4 so we could continue xTWs. I do however believe that xTW, in its current state, might as well be scrapped if that offered better in server PvP. So I would honestly go and merge the west coast servers into one - Sure, it would break the balance for xTW as thats quite a bit of ppl on one server compared to Tideswell least.

A reduction on the amount of xTW lands is pretty much what we need and it should solve many problems. We simply don't have the amount of players and factions in PWI to make xTW work as intended. The xTW is my favourite PvP event in this game and it's just sad and disheartening that I can rarely get any decent battles...

Good video. I hope the GMs watch it.

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fury85 wrote: »

Instead of reducing amount of lands (or together..) what you think about reducing faction size? That can help for normal TW other than xTW.

Reducing faction size would be problematic because most large factions are closing to 200 members. So who would you remove when this update goes live? What I mean, the system would have to remove some ppl or we`d have factions with more than 100 members.

Also, this might hit the playerbase of this game. Ppl play because of community, not because this game is all that amazing. So if you force to split those communities, I am not sure playerbase would take it too kindly. It would also affect TW factions recruiting policy massively. You wouldnt be able to give new ppl chance to prove themselves as easily as you can do now. So if you were to do this, you would have to cut TW and xTW cap to 50 players or so(Half the faction).

But realistically, thís would require way too much coding for Wanmei to give it to us, even if it was for the best of the game I`m not sure it is. They would have to find reasons to reduce faction sizes on CN, which I doubt they will.

I won't have a chance to watch this until the weekend, since I'm frontloading ALOT of stuff in preparation for the Anniversary next month (EW, IT'S ALREADY AUGUST!).

I'll touch upon a few points brought up in this thread though and some of my passing thoughts (the following is specifically regarding things in the thread, not the video!):

- With Cross Server play, it sort of automatically skews into a more favorable EU slot with the limitations of zoning in and not causing issues with stuck characters.
- I'm not sure what sorts of changes we can implement onto the system, so that's a conversation I need to take up with the devs to see what sorts of things we can do.
- There's only so much we can do on our end to encourage people to play- it really relies on players actively participating for the system to run at it's highest potential.
- I am planning on boosting and updating rewards across all the PvP events we have, including (spoiler) introducing the Arigora Season that CN had. These announcements should go out in the future, so please look forward to it!

I agree with many points you summarized in this video too.

Another idea would be to reduce the maximum number of player for the Dragons Meet fight to 30.

On the other hand I am not sure if all this will really help ... just look at the OP's faction itself ... they do not attend the normal TW even tho they would get the most balanced fight possible (at least over an hour) on this server. What would be different in xTW. Additionally, most of the ideas in this thread will at least take a half year if not more to be implemented I guess.

Better apply the same logic to the Thursday Night Fights and Arigora as well, but I guess the OP didn't mention those because they don't affect his guild yet.

fury85 wrote: »

Instead of reducing amount of lands (or together..) what you think about reducing faction size? That can help for normal TW other than xTW.

New faction rule:
-Must not offline for more than 24 hours
-Must participate all faction wars

New faction requirement:
-All gear must be +12
-Total gear value must be over 50bil

These will be the new rules and requirements for the top factions.

beast21g wrote: »

you forgot glyph lvl minimum 7

No point, 7 gives same bonus as 5, only makes sense to be sure the recruit takes it seriously

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I wouldnt say the season was decided after 3 months but its been pretty clear which factions will land top3 for a month now and I agree, seasons this long get exhausting. I expected Crisis to land 2nd but due how Infamous had absolutely nothing to lose by doing it, they took a **** on Crisis` morning cereals so Crisis will most likely be dropping to 3rd. While this benefited my faction, I believe lower ranking factions should have a reason to compete too so we would avoid these sort of things where "ruining ones day" doesnt cost you anything.

If Vindi has been going around playing "diplomacy", nobody has contacted me bout it. Sounds absolutely ludicrous way of playing xTW if this has been the case though. Like sure, if it works its amazing for results but not exactly in the spirit of competition.

dingo488 wrote: »

Vindicate in a nutshell, every TW season ever ended in Hoorah getting ganked by Vindicate, Legendary and Kakumau, the good old days. Ultimately it doesn't really matter though, every faction can play the way they prefer to play. Some factions prefer to earn the win, others are fine sitting back doing nothing. I'm just happy that in xTW there's more factions that actually do want to play in a proper manner, so we could finally escape the garbage competition that is Sanctuary->Twilight Temple, now if they just fixed the damn thing so we can all fight each other and have fun

Lol,

This coming from the faction that orchestrated a 5 way gank on Vindi and managed to lose all five.

By "play in a proper manner" you mean exploit every possible advantage without a shred of shame or dignity to clock wins and whine and rattle off excuses when you lose, like you guys do?


Hypocrisy much?