QQing about PVP

Ye, mostly agree.

NW is awful, I really wish they brought back xNW.

Thursday Night Tourney isn't really a PvP event, its just a lottery to see who is going to die to the eye this week.

Arigora Colosseum is a lot of fun, but once the squad gets around 1900~2100 it becomes extremely hard to still find opponents because there's an extremely low amount of teams. And 3v3 personal matchmaking appears to have died out within a month.

TW you kinda have yourself to thank for that, if you log 30 psychic alts, that arent even in the battle (hell they arent even in the faction) for buffs and send 20 people into the air to glitch people, you can't really be surprised that the opponent isn't interested in fighting you, since they can't actually do anything. Think I couldn't use a single AoE in TW and not get sealed, so thats pretty telling. But apparently the psychic buff fix is on the way! Now we're just hoping for a solution to the Stormbringer/Duskblade issue, but I don't expect it to ever come. But even then you bandwagoned to the winning team every single time, no matter what server you're on so you can't really complain about TW, or are you gonna tell me its just a ''coincidence''.

xTW, also your own fault, Vindicate has tried to copy the strategies that were previously used by other factions but because they don't understand them they failed to do it properly and now all your lands are getting attacked the exact same week. That said, there's currently an issue with xTW and there's 6 lands that are impossible to get attacked (4 of which are owned by your own faction). It would be much worse if xTW was actually working properly. I do wonder what PWI is going to do to solve that issue, free 40 points every week for Vindicate (10 for Tempest and 10 for Infamous) seems extremely unfair to me. Especially considering even the highest factions are only getting between 60~80 points per week. I'm quite happy that my faction isn't actually a contender this season due to issue at the start of the season. I hope this stuff is solved before next season.

I do think xTW needs to be rebalanced properly. It has clearly been made for the chinese servers, where there's enough players and enough factions for ALL lands to get attacked every single week. The points you earn by winning certain battles are also balanced around that happening. On our version of xTW however, winning a Swirling Dragon Camp battle usually means you get to hold that land for the next 3-4 weeks before it gets attacked again, so you get way more points out of it than you would from winning in Dragon's Meet. They should rebalance the points you earn from winning certain matches, make winning Dragon's Meet more rewarding. And make holding a Swirling Dragon Camp land less reward. Because unlike in China, you dont actually have to defend your Swirling Lands every week. But this is something for another thread, though I doubt it's even worth addressing, I don't think China is willing to make changes just for us, and even if they do it'll probably get messed up down the road like happened with many things China did different for us.

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The best types of PvP I've experienced on this game are mostly gone.

xNW was amazing but removed because it was too difficult for that 1 mystic.
TW used to be amazing, but ruined by the release of the Nightshade classes.
Getting good fights in xTW is too rare, but its still great when it happens.

Main problem with anything in this game is that its balanced for China servers.
Every pvp/non pvp event is just balanced for China player base and thats it , u cant even get top rewards in some events (like homestead arena) , arigora colosseum is also balanced for China player base/servers on amount of rewards, and every single update we get is gonna be the same unless we get it scaled down by at least half for our needs but i dont see that ever happening.

TW is long dead on most servers with maybe 1 good tw per year , xTW is sadly just go for more lands to get more points since we dont have amount of factions to bid on them like china does and just go for the points , avoid taking risks with fighting big factions , if xtw was scaled down for us in lands by lets say 50% u would see way more interesting fights and more competitive seasons.

All this brings me to the last problem that is simply that PWE cant do much about it since China has the last word on everything, for the past few months im pointing out to major problems we are facing but they arent even getting acknowledged by PWE so dont think its ever going to change xD

Just imagine if arena/xtw etc would get scaled down for our needs and our actual player base there would be way more pvp.

Ah right i almost forgot , xTNF would actually provide us with a decent amount of interesting pvp since it would be cross server but seeing that we shoulda got it 6-8 months ago and still didnt i woudnt hold my breath on that one xD

I like this post and I think there are many good ideas suggested here.
But as we all know it is pointless ... PWI cannot do anything without China and China doesnt give a *beep* about us.

One reason why there is no open pvp and not enough players for arena is also the costs of gearing up and for pvp. Nobody likes getting onehitted by a sin that does nothing else but pressing elemination. Most ppl want to progress ... get better gear ... but its just an endless circle and they will never catch up to a level at which they are happy. This goes on for many many years and will never change. And I dont even want to start that nobody will ever catch up to reincarnated Nuema Portal players.

Additionally, most people dont do anything without rewards. We dont even have a ranking list for pvp or anything that could motivate players ... everything new in the game takes many year to archive ... and if you think reaching a goal is impossible it will not motivate you ... only players who are intrinsicly motivated to pvp do it ... and there arent many.

Giving us a way to use the xtw rewards to get charms also on the normal server would also be a nice thing.

beast21g wrote: »

you want more open PVP? Make people not loose items and force everyone white. If the fear of loosing an item disapear then they will not care to engage on pvp

The whole "one shot because you didn't swipe your credit card" thing doesn't help much either.

nightmare201 wrote: »

beast21g wrote: »

you want more open PVP? Make people not loose items and force everyone white. If the fear of loosing an item disapear then they will not care to engage on pvp

The whole "one shot because you didn't swipe your credit card" thing doesn't help much either.

i havent spent a single cent and one shot people. and guess what, i also sometimes get 1 shot. its usually a matter of teamwork (hint: debuffs), apart from that 1 broken class that shall not be discussed here.

also dingo: roar usually went for factions that gave him the highest chance of tw fun, he even was in zulu for some time and the most we managed to bring into tw was 35..

would be awesome to see XNW back, is it not possible to have the normal NW on friday and the XNW on sunday?

Well, I want to avoid "crappy timeslots", because then we'll come back to the same issue we had when we switched from local to cross server where people could not get supply tokens (time issues, overly geared players) or felt that it was slated too favorably towards one server. I think I've touched upon it a few times here and there in the past and so did Orinj.

orinj wrote: »

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Now about X-server Nation Wars...
Is it feasible - yes. Is it practical - at the moment, no.
The reasons for why it's not practical is due to event synchronization and also limitations related to the server time.
However, we are trying to figure it out.
The following conditions, though, would have to be met for us to pursue this:

1. Event has to take place across all regions on the same server day. - Limitations on the code level.
2. Event cannot overlap into standard nation wars. - Can't rob Pedro to pay Paulo.
3. Event scheduling has to be fair to all servers. - Otherwise, this wouldn't be much of an event.

Points 1 and 2 are the hardest to negotiate.
Point 3 can be resolved by rotating the event times so that they reset every 3 months along with TW and DC. Not ideal, but doable.

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So obviously, you can't have EU players zoning into or out of cross server that's not the same day as when they return, otherwise it causes issues. Can't neglect the local version of NW either. So this makes scheduling incredibly tight when you factor in DC, Local NW and TW on local server times. I'm assuming that players would also not want the event to be in the middle of the week, so I'm mostly looking at weekend times.

On Saturday, it looks like we have a chunk of time between 9 AM PST and 1 PM PST, but otherwise everything else is either occupied by local server TW times, Nation Wars local, DC or is past the time that would be ok for EU to zone into Cross server. So a start time of 9 AM-11 AM PST is what would be the most likely scenario. If there is some other event conflict I'm not aware of that would make this time slot unusable, please let me know!

This doesn't mean this is a guarantee of it coming back because I'm not entirely sure if we can keep local if we bring back xNW, and I'd rather see/hear what other people feel about a 9 AM-11 AM ish time frame where it could potentially be in first.