When is Astrid Promo going to come!!?

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  • aeron#3369
    aeron#3369 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Anyway I think you guys who're crying here, are already cashing back in the game because you can't stop it. You need to cash in this game cause it is an addiction, you know it is a disease, you can get a cure of that. The ingame price are always getting higher cause you guys are more and more addictive.

    About spend promotion they are to help people getting stuffs by spending ingame golds, nuema portal spend promo had to stop, it ruined the game, too many nuema portals now, too many G17 - nuema portal dumbass who don't even know what their skills are doing... they spam 2 keys and it works, clerics keeps them alive.

    You guys should seriously start to play the game, if you want to spend money, then go to a casino ? You're not feeding the game, you're ruining. Stop crying for real, play the game, learn your skills, and stop saying people are farming nuema portal, people doesn't, they cash (they says they don't but they do), business is dead, you selling at lose now.

    When I see how this forum is going on, I really think that when this game will stop, many of you will get incarcetated in a mental institution.
    "I need to cash, I need my nuema portal, please let me cash let me cash" => "take your medics and shut up"
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    @aeron#3369 did you even read this thread?
  • chipboy
    chipboy Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    @topmasterseller We've switched up the order a bit for this rotation! But don't worry Astrid, hasn't been forgotten (if anything, we seem to leave Soul Controller Saki out in the cold more often than not)

    To me the words "Rotation" and "Don't worry" makes it seem like they would complete it. So it feels extremely immoral to me and seems like false advertising to get people to put money onto the game. Especially since they did that 25% charge sale like the week before we were supposed to get Astrid. I think it would be fair to remove peoples in game gold in return for the amount they had charged if that applied to anyone, due to the misleading information. This NP rotation was the sole purpose a lot of people had actually charged to the game. Or at the very least finish the promo as "expected" (Lorelei was left out in the quote but still has the ID number there)
    So instead of the current expected order it will look like Althea > Kestra > Astrid > Tensa > Saki or ending numbers 784, 785, 786, 787, 831 and 832 (don't ask me why Tensa and Saki are so spaced out and away from the rest of it's set) As far as timing in between obtaining cards is concerned, I could always take a look at frequency but I don't want to unnecessarily burn people out, if that makes sense.
  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    Removing the NP card from rotation ok but the other aspects of inflation zzzz confused me here
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  • bboycraze
    bboycraze Posts: 38 Arc User
    Hey, so we can mark this question as answered now right? n e v e r
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    bboycraze wrote: »
    Hey, so we can mark this question as answered now right? n e v e r

    The answer is actually l o l g o o d l u c k ​​
  • turborocket5
    turborocket5 Posts: 5 Arc User
    I once dreamed about farming and gathering gold (which other people bought) to slowly get my refines up, and maybe one day an NP set.
    I thought that it would be a reality for me in a few years.
    well, guess not.​​
  • dregenfox
    dregenfox Posts: 713 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    You know this game really has nothing going for it anymore. Arenas are lame and unbalanced, instances are boringly repetitive and require no strategy except nuking, and players are bombarded with daily lag and server errors - the game doesn't even work right.

    The main attraction in this game was the slow-but-satisfying progression you could make on your character. If PWI insists on making this impossible then there's no point in playing this game anymore. I'm not even going to do something shady like charge back like many people are suggesting, the money spent isn't important and PWI is just not worth the hassle anymore. I had 1900 gold built up on my merchant and I just logged it off. It's not even enough for a random s-card.

    The best thing is, I check the AH after spend promo and of course it's backup to 3-4k+ because people gobble it up anyway.

    There's so many fun and competitive games out there right now. I really hope other people look into them instead of trying to stick with this mess.

    @kalystconquerer#0876 I think your company has to decide whether destroying the game's reputation/income and angering the entire playerbase like this is preferable over pissing off a few delusional people over in China.
  • rhsusuj3#8225
    rhsusuj3#8225 Posts: 1 Arc User
    lol current promo not even working either :)
  • sawyers
    sawyers Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    NO Nuema card and a useless S-chest for haha 2200 gold ... trolololol.

    This is just RIDICULOUS.

    How *beep* are you to ask us about solutions and then come up with this *beep*. Do you even listen to anything? Are you aware of the fact that even without a sale you get a S-card for 200 gold and nobody that aims for a NP set gives a flying *beep* about a single of these damn useless trash rewards from the current spend promo. Do you even know how your own games works and do you know that getting the NP set is so insane expensive that not even the heaviest cash shopper can get it ... we talk here about several 10k dollar ... you are just out of your mind.

    I am done ... seriously ... that is the straw to break the camel's back ... and I can also tell you that many other players will quit that game now ... I have no words anymore.
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  • shapoopi
    shapoopi Posts: 78 Arc User
    you said, china said s chests should be $2300+
    and you said you sitting in meetings all day
    kaly: hey guys, let's **** china and give our servers 100 GOLD OFF!
    everyone chimes in: YEAH! LETS DO IT!
    <releases s chest for 2200, waits for applause>

    1 day later
    kaly post the new spend promo:
    they're probably having a meeting right now
    kaly: how come they're so upset, we gave them 100 gold off?
    person 1: no idea, maybe they just really want NP cards
    person 2: why not just get the s chest and hope for a NP card
    person 1: i know right? they make no sense

    come on kaly what happened to the " i like the idea of giving NP chest ?"
    like seriously you guys dont see the amount of the rage yet ?

    give those NP chests in boutique and fix this problem guys else trust me you will lose alot of these players, i can see the rage on skype groups in the wc in faction chat lol ppl isnt even logging the game you guys killed it for them
  • skullz818
    skullz818 Posts: 11 Arc User
    @kalystconquerer#0876
    Many folks are waiting to see the outcome before leaving the game. I can buy a Stream Workstation for the cost of one NP card and enjoy many games. The question arises why not Astrid first, since most have been waiting for that card? Of course if you stretch it out further, then the question of torture comes to mind to the people who have stayed to play, remember they can stop the promo again, at anytime, at their will.

    Another effect that is happening, is the Faction Leaders are upset that the top players are considering leaving the game permanently, where does that leave the rest of the people in the Faction?
  • dregenfox
    dregenfox Posts: 713 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    skullz818 wrote: »
    @kalystconquerer#0876
    Many folks are waiting to see the outcome before leaving the game. I can buy a Stream Workstation for the cost of one NP card and enjoy many games.

    Another effect that is happening, is the Faction Leaders are upset that the top players are considering leaving the game permanently, where does that leave the rest of the people in the Faction?

    I guess it will be better for the game in the end, with a bunch of f2p players fighting each other in G16 gears, and maybe 1 or 2 whales who don't care about money killing everything with their $55,000 (china's value) RB2 NP set.

    I didn't even attend X-TW today because I can't even know if it'll be working or not, and a 99% chance of no-show...nevermind the fact that there's an S-chest for $2000+.

    I have a top-end custom computer that can play any game at 4k/60 fps+ and 50+ games on steam and that's the equivalent of ONE random S-card in a decades old game, not even guaranteed NP card that was released 3 years ago...just lol.
  • skullz818
    skullz818 Posts: 11 Arc User
    What @saxroll says ^^
  • dregenfox
    dregenfox Posts: 713 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    I think even minor a price increase, say 10-20% would have been palatable to players. But 2200 gold for a random s-chest is beyond ridiculous.

    At ~2% chance to get a particular card people will easily be spending $100000+ to get a NP set from spend promos where previously it was $7200 for a guaranteed one. That's almost a 1400% price increase.

    Remember the **** Netflix received by hiking prices 100% some years ago? And PWI thinks 1400% is acceptable.

    Has PWI lost all reason?
  • vicegerent
    vicegerent Posts: 1 Arc User
    This is not a good turning point for this game,
    been waiting for the Lorelei as well,
    but seeing this happening made me wake up
    to the fact that much time and gold have gone to waste.
    Just shattered my dreams and woke up to the reality of how
    imperfect in many ways this part of internet world.
  • cbmelo97
    cbmelo97 Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Couple years ago millions took over the streets of Brazil's biggest cities, due to a 20cents increase on the bus fare, to protest. The motto was "its not about the 20 cents," the 20 cents increase was the final straw - the protests were really about the corruption, the abuse of power, the surreality 99% of the people lived in so that 1% could "prosper". Solution? After weeks of disorder and chaos, the government decreased the fare in 10 cents and rejected ONE proposed amendment to the consitution (every other problem was still alive) - and protests stopped. Consequence? Today, 2017, Brazil is currently facing its biggest crisis in the past 17 years due to several corruption scandals that built up over time. If you take 5min to research,you might get a grasp of what is going on here... long story short: BILLIONS have been laundried into presidents', ex-presidents', vice-presidents', governors', senators', big multi millionaire company owners', and so on, bank accounts in tax havens. They are all, without exception, being investigated. Nonetheless, a feeling of ire and doubt took over Brazil. Decisions made today, will directly affect the future of this nation - for good or for worse.

    This short story illustrates a little of what going on here, right now: "its not about the NP price jack!" Its really about the bullying ARC/PWE has been practicing upon players. The price jack was just the last straw for many because now the already existent gap b/t people that cs, or have NP set, and those who dont, will no longer be a gap and become a abism. It seems to me PWI has the same two paths of those who governed Brazil did: the short-term bread and circus solution & long-term nothing changes until the problem becomes a giant snowball, or the short-term pis people off solution & long-term gradually change the game's economy and so on. The short-term bread and circus didnt work for Brazil, at least not long-term, as you can tell. Didnt work for Brazil, and didnt work for any other nation, any other company, any other nothing - except north korea idk why. Maybe u need advice from them.

    You might even say that giving us new events, codes, whatever, to get "free" s-packs will give players who are F2P or cant afford NP anymore, have a chance to get S cards... but that still doesnt solve anything long-term *FOR* PWI. You dont have to be a genius to know the problem isnt the game, it's the people behind it (players - me included - and developers, publisher, staff, investors, so on). We are all humans, we sucumb to primal desires of being powerfful and influential by doing "whatever we have to do", by having a game developing company worth 900 million because you take advantage of game addiction, or spending 10k usd for card set on a game you do nothing really besides dailies, nuke, no show svs, because you live in the nostalgia that one day this game will be freaking OP as it was one day, and pretend the problem is them who dont have the gold had a choice to pay or not to play - they chose not to. Seriously?

    This game was good 7 years ago, when i started playing. This game continued to be good until 2014ish, in the BR server. It got old already; its 2017. Expansion after expansion, it seems to me this is all rushed so we have some new content to increase the games life cycle... when in reality, our server isnt even ready for the expansion yet! The biggest proof is all the bugs people have been facing: skills wont work properly on PvP, arena, glyphs wont also, svs wont work properly either, economy is really unstable; one day a fashion is 200m, the other its 50m... wtf? This goes for so many other items, and some items dont even have use at all!!

    Its about time investors invest more than just dollar signs on this game, actually care and devote to it, and turn tables here. A better gaming experience = more players = more sponsors. Maybe im wrong, I dont understand anything about keeping a game online, but i do know that for anything in life, that which you do not invest your time and effort, dies out. From relationships, to golden fishes, to ourselves.... if you arent willing ot take CARE of it, it dies out. Im pretty much done with this game, ive been investing so much time and patience, ive sponsored this game a lot to friends and kept others from stopping, been trying to help noob toons here and there and so on. I cant sponsor this anymore if the resolution of these issues sum up on: who +12 set and NP = kings of the hill, everyone else... "may the odds be with you!" No one will.

    Anyway,

    this will just be another post read by kalyst, neglected by the staff, not acknowledged by superiors, or known at all by those up above like every other post. :smile:

    Thanks kalyst for genuinely caring and trying hard. I hope you are able to at least voice out everyones' opinions!
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  • sunnynight
    sunnynight Posts: 45 Arc User
    I knew this would happen as soon as back in February when we were expecting Astrid they changed the order to stall and delay, then the warsong promo delays. Never ever spending $2200 for random garbage.
  • pwicomshoppe
    pwicomshoppe Posts: 2 Arc User
    skullz818 wrote: »
    @kalystconquerer#0876
    Many folks are waiting to see the outcome before leaving the game. I can buy a Stream Workstation for the cost of one NP card and enjoy many games. The question arises why not Astrid first, since most have been waiting for that card? Of course if you stretch it out further, then the question of torture comes to mind to the people who have stayed to play, remember they can stop the promo again, at anytime, at their will.

    Another effect that is happening, is the Faction Leaders are upset that the top players are considering leaving the game permanently, where does that leave the rest of the people in the Faction?


    If you're concerned about faction leaders, I doubt your members will leave the game like they claim. They are too far in and most people will fall for the "sunk cost fallacy". Some have already bought/acquired more than 2000 gold in this game. Why would they leave the game now and not make use of the funds? The time or money they put into this game are nonrefundable expenses. They've already invested too much into the idea of "becoming OP", that their likely course of action is to finish the set without NP promos or gear up in other ways (Glyphs, G17).

    In short, many people here, as well as your faction mates, are making empty threats, and a very low percentage of people will actually quit. Also, the forum community represents only a small faction of the player base.




  • bangbang
    bangbang Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    So, who plays [Redacted]? How is that going? I think it might be time for us all to move over, it seems like PWE has really lost sight of their bond with the community. They have us voice our opinions and concerns but are too stubborn to pay attention and listen. Like why should we even bother trying to tell you what us as a community think when they just put their fingers in their ears and say la la la.

    Hey maybe they might realize their mistake after they start noticing there are less and less people participating in spend promos and even charging gold. I am pretty sure people only took advantage of spend promos for the NP card. Now putting this ridiculously high spend promo is just a cruel joke. Maybe they will get 1-3 suckers to fall for it and then eventually they will probably never see anyone reach the top tier again.

    I have been here since beta so I have seen all the mistakes they have made. I wonder if there is really truth behind the "China is upset about us doing the promo." Why are they just now realizing this, or did you guys just go ahead and start the promo before asking them? If that is the case then why not just do it again and continue doing what you are doing? Every time you guys do things like this you upset the community. Every time you upset them more and more players quit.

    To be honest what you can do to just resolve the upset of all the players for now is to finish the cycle with all 6 cards. Then tell the players this is the last time not your BS PWE last chance like you did with old packs and mounts. You can't say last chance and then do it again. Do all 6 card promos but continue with the finish of this sequence. Astrid->Lorelai->Tensa->Saki->Althra->Kestra. This way all players know that this is the very last complete cycle. If PWCN cries about it tell them this is the last time and that each player can only obtain 1 more of each card anyway. Once the cycle finishes as it should be where each card is at the 1200gold tier; the community would be more at eased.

    You can either do that or make all of the cards in the game tradeable. If they really expect players to spend $100,000 just to try and complete a NP RB2 set they are insane. Hell I have better luck winning a jackpot prize at a casino. With all of this money that this promo is generating how much of it has even gone back to improving this game? If they were actively balancing and caring about keeping their player base then most of us wouldn't be here complaining.
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    @pwicomshoppe this guy knows what's up lol
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  • dregenfox
    dregenfox Posts: 713 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    skullz818 wrote: »
    @kalystconquerer#0876
    Many folks are waiting to see the outcome before leaving the game. I can buy a Stream Workstation for the cost of one NP card and enjoy many games. The question arises why not Astrid first, since most have been waiting for that card? Of course if you stretch it out further, then the question of torture comes to mind to the people who have stayed to play, remember they can stop the promo again, at anytime, at their will.

    Another effect that is happening, is the Faction Leaders are upset that the top players are considering leaving the game permanently, where does that leave the rest of the people in the Faction?


    If you're concerned about faction leaders, I doubt your members will leave the game like they claim. They are too far in and most people will fall for the "sunk cost fallacy". Some have already bought/acquired more than 2000 gold in this game. Why would they leave the game now and not make use of the funds? The time or money they put into this game are nonrefundable expenses. They've already invested too much into the idea of "becoming OP", that their likely course of action is to finish the set without NP promos or gear up in other ways (Glyphs, G17).

    In short, many people here, as well as your faction mates, are making empty threats, and a very low percentage of people will actually quit. Also, the forum community represents only a small faction of the player base.

    I think most people realize the money put into a game is never permanent. 2000 gold is a month's pay for most people. It's like buying a TV and having it break a year later when the warranty runs out. It sucks a lot but what can you do? They put it in because they enjoyed the game and community. I can tell you at least for me I haven't even logged in for today. Same for at least 1 other person on my FL.

    The game lost a bit of players after the D. orb +10 fiasco, then when they combined servers. It will lose even more players over this as well. I've checked the activity on pwi's facebook and it isn't even close to half of what it was 2 years ago. Same for servers - DA is the biggest server atm but is less active than HL was 2 years ago and that is after combining servers.

    The ones who stay are simply too dedicated to the game and I can only admire and pity them at the same time. It's sad for pure f2p non-merch players because I know some have invested 5000+ hours into this game, which is something they will never get back.
  • kalystconquerer#0876
    kalystconquerer#0876 Posts: 1,421 Perfect World Employee
    @justuskk I'm going to only say this once, since Ive already been incredibly strict on this from other users who either say theyre charging back or encouraging chargebacks to other users, gor various reasons.

    This is not only a violation of forum rules, but against our ToS.

    > @shapoopi said:
    > you said, china said s chests should be $2300+
    > and you said you sitting in meetings all day
    > kaly: hey guys, let's **** china and give our servers 100 GOLD OFF!
    > everyone chimes in: YEAH! LETS DO IT!
    >
    >
    > 1 day later
    > kaly post the new spend promo:
    > they're probably having a meeting right now
    > kaly: how come they're so upset, we gave them 100 gold off?
    > person 1: no idea, maybe they just really want NP cards
    > person 2: why not just get the s chest and hope for a NP card
    > person 1: i know right? they make no sense
    >
    > come on kaly what happened to the " i like the idea of giving NP chest ?"
    > like seriously you guys dont see the amount of the rage yet ?
    >
    > give those NP chests in boutique and fix this problem guys else trust me you will lose alot of these players, i can see the rage on skype groups in the wc in faction chat lol ppl isnt even logging the game you guys killed it for them


    The NP chest thing was in response to incorporating artifacts and looking at a trade-up system. I liked some of the ideas proposed, so I'll pitch an event or an idea/exchange and see where it goes (NPC related stuff though will have to be later on if I could get any sort of exchange at all, and anything like that I'd have to make a good case to them for). Ironically enough, I've tried putting Chests straight into the boutique, but that item got blocked during Player's Choice :/

    I wasn't in the office today ( which is why I haven't hopped onto the forums until just now). Side note - I don't know why Vanilla changed my quote into this ">" , must be freaking out again.
  • happyhail
    happyhail Posts: 129 Arc User
    Sorry, but the only people foolish enough to buy a random s-chest directly from the boutique (which is clearly valued at '$2300+ with the emphasis on plus') are the same people foolish enough to pay $500 for astral levels.

    Players veto'd/ignored it because we were smart enough to understand ahead of time that it would outrageously expensive and a waste of a vote.

    But thanks for trying.
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Effort to make a trade system its worthless if the random s cards we need to trade multiple of are EACH going to cost us as much as the card were trading for is worth. I dont know how stupid "pwcn" thinks we are but its getting beyond insulting now. The card is worth 2300+ so now we have to pay ten, fifteen, forty, two hundred times that amount in trade ups and chance packs?

    There is no reason stated in forums for the increase on all other items. Did china not like this either?

    This isnt a solution. I think im gonna log off for a bit... Keep it real.
  • action1080i
    action1080i Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Thank you GMs and PWI for allowing your players to obtain half or 70% of the card set then ripping it out because you can take the heat from some tiny little man 6,860miles away. It wouldnt be fair to of ran the promo the 2nd time and then not finish it. Hope this ONE time you actually stick up for the players.
  • zandhond
    zandhond Posts: 32 Arc User
    i seen my AEU set getting nerfed to hard alrdy by NP sets popping up everywhere, by players that got it cheaper then my aeu set :) giving the endgame cards so easely was a mistake i n the first place.
  • eternalghost
    eternalghost Posts: 154 Arc User
    As someone who has invested a lot of money into this game, I find this sort of behaviour very disheartening. I understand PWCN govern our version but this is just getting ridiculous. They are literally gutting the game out. For me this has kinda hit me round the head, and now I dont really log in to play at the moment, and hell - I wasnt even going to get any spend promos. Like some people have said its the principle and how the way we have been treated as of late that has led up to this.

    I think PWE need to stand up to PWCN and lay down whats going on because PWCN is seriously destroying this game. At every corner they are demolishing every single tiny way to progress in this game. If WE wanted our versions to be so similar, we would freaking quit and go play a CHINESE FREAKING MMO, or even PWCN itself!

    If PWCN was so lazy that they couldnt publish their own game to the west then they should let the people in charge of the west branch actually have the ability to make changes that the west playerbase needs. Its just so unbelievably stupid.
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  • jotaro85
    jotaro85 Posts: 2 Arc User
    This game became a burden and not fun anymore. Can you at least allow us to sell our accounts? So we can get rid of it without been wasting 8 years of our lives in here. There is no reason to keep playing , game is unfair. This is insulting for players who put much effort to collect those cards. I have been collecting 5/6 and now you're telling me that it was for nothing. Well i wasted enough time on this joke called pwi. So if you allow me to sell my account at least , it would be the minimum you can do.
  • kartter
    kartter Posts: 152 Arc User
    Cant you ask china to change mind? Nicely and explain the situation. I dont think 1200$ is cheap for a card in a 6/6 set. Ful set costs 7200$ still. Isnt enough or whut? Pls try it to explain them :/
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