New thursday tournamet event in pwcn (single and X-server) info

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attackerv
attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
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My faction mates asked me to make a post for new Thursday tournament.
Actually, I am busy in rl and even no time to run FS daily in game. But be happy to help ppl know more about info and have fun in game.
I don’t know anything about pwi future plan but I can give some info according to pwcn.
Tournament is good to get G17R4-R5 rare mat, A-Pack, star chart stuff!!!!
My info may be something wrong, welcome any correction.

major source: http://event51.wanmei.com/w2i/201511/2015show/page3.htm

Single server tournament is 7:50pm, X server is 7:40pm. I can’t tell any diff about the rule with current tournament.

Ppl just care about what the reward is
==========reward exchange thing================================
Ultra reward: Like current tournament warsoul helmet, 1 CoM for X server, 1 base helmet (choose 1 from 3 kind) for single server.
Other reward: four kinds of tokens (exchange thing will list below) and permit of next week X-server ( only Rank 1-2 of single server and Rank 1-3 of X-server can have it.
Token 1: red mat of R17R5 ( need 3), red mat of R17R4 (1)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/50244
token 2: red mat of R17R4 (3), rare mat of R17R3(1)， MoG(3)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/50242
token 3: Astrobana pearl lv2(2), astropira pearl lv2(2), A pack(1) and others…
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/50243
token 4: A pack(5) and others
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/50241

ur rank will decide how many tokens and what kind of tokens you have
==========single server================
Rank 1: token 2 (1), token 3(15), token 4(30), permit of next X-server tournament
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35395
Rank2: token 3 (15), token 4(30), permit of next X-server tournament
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35394
Rank 3: token 3(10)，token 4(30)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35393
Rank4: token 3(5)，token 4(30)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35392
Rank 5: token 4(20)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35391
Rank6: token 4 (10)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35390
==========X-server tournament reward=======================
Rank1: token 1 (1), token 3 (25), token 4（50）, permit of next X server tournament
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35402
Rank2: token 2 (1), token 3 (25), token 4（50）, permit of next X server tournament
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35401
Rank 3: token 2(1), token 3(20), token 4 (40), permit of next X server tournament
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35400
Rank 4: token 2(1), token 3(15), token 4(30)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35399
Rank 5: token 3(15), token 4(30)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35398
Rank 6: token 3(10), token 4(30)
http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/quest/35397

===========what pwi need to do =================
In pwcn, both tournaments happen in the same time that means R 4-6 in X-server can’t join next week X-server tournament. Also, R 1-2 in single X-server can join next week X-server.
However, pwi time zone issue will lead to ppl can join both tournaments. The R1-2 of single X-server and R1-3 of single server may be the same ppl. OP will be more OP.
Pwi should let 1 char ONLY join 1 tournament each week. I guess they may too lazy to change anything though.





Main Chars in tidewell:
Attacker_V: archer
Seraphim_V: Veno
xNightshadowx: db

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  • attackerv
    attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
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    BTW, according pwcn instructions, the loser won't bedirectly kicked out but will fight with other losers other room in next round.
    that is unlike to the tournament of today.
    Main Chars in tidewell:
    Attacker_V: archer
    Seraphim_V: Veno
    xNightshadowx: db
  • dingo488
    dingo488 Posts: 936 Arc User
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    The most important question I have is if it is still just digging chests to move on to the next stage?

    Im just worried this kind of cheating might be happening again:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfPUahG2KCw

    To clarify, he's showing them exactly what chests they need to dig to all end up in the same room together, so they can move as a pack through the tournament while everyone else gets randomized

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXi45uIrOt0

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  • ayejay101
    ayejay101 Posts: 238 Arc User
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    So, I guess this may solve some time issues regarding X-Server and Origin Server. Since all things X-Server are based on the EU Server, there 2 Tournaments will happen at the same time while the other servers will have the benefit of having 2 tournaments they would be able to join.

    I do like that, but still not sure how well it will play out. Regardless getting top 6 in a server of thousands is a task and X-Server of many more... this will be a accomplishment or luck.    ​​
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  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited March 2016
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    What's the reward for the fight between losing participants ? It still cost us charms and other stuffs, so it's gotta give something too.

    For X-server tourney, can we ally with other guilds from other servers or players from other servers will automatically become enemies.

    You said we can ally with other guild or fight alongside with own guildmates to qualify for the next round, in the end for reaching rank 1, is the fight gonna be personal that we have to fight our own guildmates ?
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  • attackerv
    attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
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    @freygin ally is just like current tournament. big factions will stand to last round. each rounds, only limit ppl can go to next round. so u have to kill ppl until reaching the survive numbers in your round.

    about reward, depends on how many rounds u win. except first round, winner always match winner of other room, loser will match loser of other toom.

    Winning all of rounds will be at the last room for final round. After done, u have decided who will get the CoM from survive ppl or just kill others.
    Main Chars in tidewell:
    Attacker_V: archer
    Seraphim_V: Veno
    xNightshadowx: db
  • attackerv
    attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited March 2016
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    @freygin about ally, in pwcn, thing usually happen like this. Sever 1, faction A (No.1) vs(>) faction B, Severer 2: faction C (No.1) vs(>) faction D.

    then, in Xserver tournament, faction A and faction C want to make sure they can get all of rewards, both of No.1 factions (A and C) will be alliance in Xserver tournament so that they have over power and number to gank other factions. Then, if their number > suvive number for next round, they will discuss who have to leave and give some coins to leaving ppl.

    that is very boring and not really balanced pk. PPl look forward (faction A +others) vs (facion C + others) instead of faction (A+C) kill others. But reward is too good, human's greedy will lead ppl would like the reward with the boring instead of a good fight. it did happen in pwcn and many ppl QQ that.

    I hope it won't happen in pwi. It wll depend on those big faction leaders decisions.
    Main Chars in tidewell:
    Attacker_V: archer
    Seraphim_V: Veno
    xNightshadowx: db
  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited April 2016
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    I see, so we can ally with other faction from different server. Many systems in pw have flaws and they never do anything to improve it.

    For example
    - fake bid with TW, how hard is it to make bidder has to have 50 or 100 members minimal or other requirements that help prevent fake bid.
    - in NW we can land hop and get higher points in the end. It's boring as hell but it pays.
    Just to name a few.

    and now this tourney, imo a tournament should be a fair fight, not just mass random fight. They should make the system as fair as possible, it's impossible to equalize gears but at least they can make it equal in other things like how many ppl are put to fight, or by squad. Or make the tournament has a few randomized systems, so if we aren't satisfied by one, maybe we might like the others.
    for example :
    - the current system
    - Every man for himself, upon entering the tournament everyone will be purged to ensure selfbuff, buff apoth cannot be used. Any squad will be dismissed. There is only ONE blue nickname which is our own char, other characters will be red so noone can give buff to others, and nicknames are hidden.
    - Every faction for themself, same as above but faction, buff, squad is allowed. Faction name and nicknames are hidden as well so no one can make alliance.
    - By Squad
    - or whatever that works.
    something like that and it's random every week.

    So ppl from weaker faction can still have a chance to win CoM from different system. Strong Faction will feel rewarded and always win as usual. Ppl that have endgame gears from different factions but haven't win CoM can gather and make a pact to win it.

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  • attackerv
    attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
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    finally, it partly comes
    Main Chars in tidewell:
    Attacker_V: archer
    Seraphim_V: Veno
    xNightshadowx: db
  • heerohex#3018
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  • attackerv
    attackerv Posts: 295 Arc User
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    in pwcn, You can not tell who is whom. Developers make a lot of effort on it in case of big faction monopoly the reward. But players in pwcn still easily make their efforts vain cuz the third party tool.

    Hopefully, pwi can make it better than pwcn since not much the third party tools here (or i just don't know them, lol)
    Main Chars in tidewell:
    Attacker_V: archer
    Seraphim_V: Veno
    xNightshadowx: db
  • kalystconquerer#0876
    kalystconquerer#0876 Posts: 1,421 Perfect World Employee
    edited December 2016
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    One of the responses we got regarding frequency of running tourney was "CN has 40 servers US only 4 so frequency shouldn't be the same, and it is a valuable reward" Perhaps I am not looking at the whole picture, as my kneejerk reaction is to want to have it be the same for us as it is in CN. I'll come back later to this topic though.

    EDIT : I just realized this is a huge necro but yes, the devs made some changes from when it was first released to when we released it here, and with Primal Warfare I believe they did some tweaks to it, so players never actually saw the first iteration. Be it a good thing or bad thing, we'll never know.
  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited December 2016
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    attackerv wrote: »
    in pwcn, You can not tell who is whom. Developers make a lot of effort on it in case of big faction monopoly the reward. But players in pwcn still easily make their efforts vain cuz the third party tool.

    Hopefully, pwi can make it better than pwcn since not much the third party tools here (or i just don't know them, lol)

    Cannot tell who is whom ? how do they make it like that, just hiding their nicknames like in the old NW system ?
    (my server once hid all nicknames in xserver but now it's revealed)

    Even if they hide nicknames, a distinguished yokebone can give away who it is. Everyone who enters immediately wears ninja fashion with veil should help :D .

    (Yea, the 3rd party tool can gather character ID or its 'hex serial number' retrieved from memory along with nicknames stored there or make a minidatabase from outside the event to identify the id, but if they really put an effort to hide any char identity so everyone remains hidden for this event, something like this shouldn't be hard for people like them being the devs and all, I bet they're just lazy, how hard it is for them to not retrieve any char identity once inside the event or use temporary event-char-ID if something like that is needed for the targetting system, so upon entering the event map their real char id is randomized while still linked to the real id in the server, but the client is given this random id for technical purpose.

    If they can pull that off, then it can be used for other fun like providing a ninja costume in boutique that really strip any identity of who you are in the game and do random pk. Ninja can kill blue nickname and blue nickname can kill this ninja, even in a safezone if they want to be extreme lol. This ninja would be like a random monster played by someone that appears randomly for whoever gets bored and want to just kill kill and kill and very hostile to anyone in the game, can only engage to 1 player only and solo career in pvp and have 2nd nickname that can be changed anytime, cannot gank or be ganked, can only engage in safezone if the other party approved and fight back, that would be fun)

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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
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    Can we please get two timeslots on DA for this event ._. NA players are jipped agian out of a much needed event I want ancient emblems too D:
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  • keihan007#7641
    keihan007#7641 Posts: 1,190 Arc User
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    blazerboy wrote: »
    Can we please get two timeslots on DA for this event ._. NA players are jipped agian out of a much needed event I want ancient emblems too D:

    I doubt its possible for them to patch servers/client in way, which would allow only 1 server to have double tourney. Or least I dont think it would be easy enough for China to find it appealing. It would also be unfair towards other servers with just 1 tourney weekly. But honestly these things dont matter as I doubt China is willing to give us 2nd tourney.
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