Invitation Scrolls/Ancient Gifts
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Can we get Invitation Scrolls back? Or another way to get Ancient Gifts.
With the new sky level being out it's probably gonna take most people like 4-5 months to reach Twilight Sky X, which gives huge benefits. People that dont have the Ancient Gift (which boosts Vitae gain by 50%) will instead take 6-7 months to reach that point, which is pretty unfair. There's no way to obtain these Ancient Gifts right now. The way these Ancient Gifts were previously obtained was from Invitation Scrolls, people could spam their inactive friends with mails to receive 6 Invitation Scrolls per day. People that regularly updated their friendslist did not have many friends that no longer play the game to mail and thus didnt receive these and are now punished by getting 33% less Vitae that the people that do have these Ancient Gifts, which I personally feel is pretty **** since the people that do have the Ancient Gifts didnt exactly do anything note-worthy to earn them.
All this is my opinion, feel however u want to feel about it \o I'd like to see these become REALISTICALLY (dont charge us gold -_-'') obtainable so that everyone has equal opportunity to keep up.
Good day \ó
With the new sky level being out it's probably gonna take most people like 4-5 months to reach Twilight Sky X, which gives huge benefits. People that dont have the Ancient Gift (which boosts Vitae gain by 50%) will instead take 6-7 months to reach that point, which is pretty unfair. There's no way to obtain these Ancient Gifts right now. The way these Ancient Gifts were previously obtained was from Invitation Scrolls, people could spam their inactive friends with mails to receive 6 Invitation Scrolls per day. People that regularly updated their friendslist did not have many friends that no longer play the game to mail and thus didnt receive these and are now punished by getting 33% less Vitae that the people that do have these Ancient Gifts, which I personally feel is pretty **** since the people that do have the Ancient Gifts didnt exactly do anything note-worthy to earn them.
All this is my opinion, feel however u want to feel about it \o I'd like to see these become REALISTICALLY (dont charge us gold -_-'') obtainable so that everyone has equal opportunity to keep up.
Good day \ó
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Well i vote for this as well i know people who did Sky lvl quest line (Pink one) with Ancient Gifts and hit TS5 already give them to us with codes or bring back Invitation.0
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You removed "INVITATION SCROLLS" and wanted to make another way to gain them. Still NOTHING! Bring the "Friend invitation system" back then. Or give us codes with ancient gifts from time to time. Thanks0
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I agree. Afterall there are people who are already at Twilight Sky X and without those Ancient gifts obtaining that so soon would not have been possible.0
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Well, exactly, so they didn't do anything that you couldn't have done. They didn't even have to spend money to do it. That feels like complaining that you didn't get checkin rewards when you forget to checkin. Those people with stacks of Ancient Gifts maybe had the forethought to think that maybe we'd get extra sky levels at some point and so stockpiled them a lot.The way these Ancient Gifts were previously obtained was from Invitation Scrolls, people could spam their inactive friends with mails to receive 6 Invitation Scrolls per day.
I don't have any either, but I don't really care about it. In 6-8 months time everybody will be at Twilight Sky 10 anyway so then it'll be evened out again, its only creating a temporary inbalance for a few months which will fix itself in due time.0 -
imo they should do 1 out of 2 options
1 - leave the "invite a friend"-'event' on permanently, i really dont see a reason as to why this shouldnt be a perma feature
2 - since everything else u can get from those scrolls except for inkdragon and ancient gift is craftable with lucky coins, make those 2 craftable as well for 1 lucky coin per ancient gift and lets say 5 for inkdragon
and while i know that u can get inkdragon from rw, its super hard to get points when theres factions hogging each spot
and theres a lot of ppl who have to get up in the middle of the night so i can imagine its a pain in the butt for them to get the inkdragon bloods the "normal" way
+ the fact that u cant craft ingdragon in the first place when ur facless or in a fac withouth facbase..0 -
Agreed... just got back recently myself and not happy about this.. everyone already has TS5 and im stuck with Shift lvl 10
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Awww, everyone should get a trophy. Seems to be the mantra of the snowflake world we live in nowadays. Gimmee gimmee gimmee
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iamluckingfoco wrote: »Awww, everyone should get a trophy. Seems to be the mantra of the snowflake world we live in nowadays. Gimmee gimmee gimmee
What a worthless post. We're asking for a way to alleviate an unreasonable grind. Forced dailies is not what makes this game fun.
It's a significantly unbalancing power factor at endgame.
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Invitation Scrolls were pulled early from a redemption code we did a little while back. Running it in conjunction with the Wukong event seemed to have raised flags with CN.
I can not promise getting these scrolls (or the resulting buffs) into players hands anytime soon, but this is on the list of to-do's.0 -
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Real talk - I tried to resurrect that topic and CN did not like the idea of a DQ redemption type system due to their botting issue. I wasn't working here when that whole system blew up, but I was playing live during that time. I don't wish to resurrect the Soon (TM) memes, but I have to approach this from a different angle. I am sure they are tired of hearing me go on about it, ha!
For Invitation Scrolls/ Ancient Gift/ Inkdragon's Blood, I couldn't for some reason get the buffs whitelisted so I could send them out to players, but I can always work with Orinj and try again!0 -
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aradya6793 wrote: »kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »Real talk - I tried to resurrect that topic and CN did not like the idea of a DQ redemption type system due to their botting issue. I wasn't working here when that whole system blew up, but I was playing live during that time. I don't wish to resurrect the Soon (TM) memes, but I have to approach this from a different angle. I am sure they are tired of hearing me go on about it, ha!
For Invitation Scrolls/ Ancient Gift/ Inkdragon's Blood, I couldn't for some reason get the buffs whitelisted so I could send them out to players, but I can always work with Orinj and try again!
fyi there is an ingame bot feature called auto-cultivation
DQ grind was the only source of coins for the early game players
Which is why their reason didn't make sense to me. That and "too high supply of DQ in economy, which could imbalance the game if creating a system to get coins to users". They introduced the bot after nerfing DQ to 1 coin. Then they change Mirage prices, then they put in the Earning Time. (Unless this order of operations of nerfs is incorrect feel free to correct me).
I should clarify though that this discussion was regarding an NPC that could preform an exchange type function, the old system we had relied on old structures that I'm not sure can be recreated. Discussion of an out-of-game redemption system was shifted into "creation of in-game NPC", so I can try to see if I can re-open the "out of game" discussion again.0 -
now any and all coin making has been killed where pw is losing players than gaining them and just adding newer ways of getting pw wont work. What killed this game was the 3rd party botters by making botting usable. If you were to ban any and all botters by IP address that might make some headwaves. otherwise pw is only a cashcow now that all you need is a credit card, buy packs and WoW instant coin. Selling DQ drops was one of the major ways of making coin in the old days and now with that gone, its impossible to make coin and i dont get a rats hide bout jolly jones bounty, that was a stupid and lame idea if its going to be the only way of making coin. Plus not all keep toons in their 70s or 80 just for that. players move on and lvl. So there needs to be a way to farm in game coin alot better than the botting system which has been KILLED just by the coin nerf on drops. armors, weaps, potions, DQs, etc, etc.
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gonna be honest, dq farming for coin should stay dead unless you want to see constant 5m+ gold prices again. Much prefer they just bump up coin from quest rewards.0
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I totally agree with this very hard for someone with 3/105 to lvl TS. And with ancient gifts helps a log in the lvl that. Or give us someting that would help us player that dont get any more exp from anyting we do.
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Here's a suggestion:
Instead of the bless box we get from the daily 1 hour login, why can't we get one of the scroll's rewards as a choice? I don't think it would be a bad idea. I never use the bless box (got jonas/omalley blessing from code), nor the pills (done with that) or the attendance sheet (no interesting rewards there, too)0 -
I like this idea ^
Im out of ancient gifts so now levelling my sky levels is a pain : (0 -
This is the code givaway allover again, but with Ancient Gifts. PWE did spoil the playerbase. Kids these days can't have a piece of cake without wanting all cake in the world.
I do agree it helps, but if this kind of resource is a frequent thing might as well buff up the exp/vitae rewards and call it a day.ZentVedr - Retired at last. Or am I?0 -
kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »aradya6793 wrote: »kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »Real talk - I tried to resurrect that topic and CN did not like the idea of a DQ redemption type system due to their botting issue. I wasn't working here when that whole system blew up, but I was playing live during that time. I don't wish to resurrect the Soon (TM) memes, but I have to approach this from a different angle. I am sure they are tired of hearing me go on about it, ha!
For Invitation Scrolls/ Ancient Gift/ Inkdragon's Blood, I couldn't for some reason get the buffs whitelisted so I could send them out to players, but I can always work with Orinj and try again!
fyi there is an ingame bot feature called auto-cultivation
DQ grind was the only source of coins for the early game players
Which is why their reason didn't make sense to me. That and "too high supply of DQ in economy, which could imbalance the game if creating a system to get coins to users". They introduced the bot after nerfing DQ to 1 coin. Then they change Mirage prices, then they put in the Earning Time. (Unless this order of operations of nerfs is incorrect feel free to correct me).
I should clarify though that this discussion was regarding an NPC that could preform an exchange type function, the old system we had relied on old structures that I'm not sure can be recreated. Discussion of an out-of-game redemption system was shifted into "creation of in-game NPC", so I can try to see if I can re-open the "out of game" discussion again.
Still, would be fun to have a reason to play the game instead of logging alt after alt to click Jolly jones which is the best way to get quick coins at the moment. I used to farm and play for hours. Now I just log in to click a npc
I don't care if i have the best equipment or not, all I want is having fun. If something isn't fun, like most the the endgame instances. walk in..Veno do this, barb do this sin do that, cleric do this and so on.. Same old routine, I don't do it. I play to have fun, not to be the most powerful whatever. So my game play have been reduced to click the npc and to a few daylies from "lets kill this mob for coins" or "let's gather materials today" or "let's help someone with cultivation" to click the npc.
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^ pretty much why many csers chill on cs hardly any reason to thus farmers don't make much money and we here we are at the log in do primal dailies afk105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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Agree with @zentfamily. Don't get me wrong, I would love more Ancient Gifts too, but blaming PWE for creating "inbalance" is a bit too much. The event was out there for anyone and everyone to use, if you didn't make the most out of it (for whatever reasons) while it lasted, then you are the only one to blame. And again, the fact that some people were clever and saved their items up, is not PWE's fault either. No one stopped you from doing it as well. All we can do is be grateful to the GMs for pressuring them to bring it back, but in any case it is not PWE's obligation to do it. If CN says it's not possible, then no is no.
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Not everyone has unlimited ancient scrolls. Some people have a ton, but most will run out maybe by the end of twilight ten. Introducing them again just prolongs this "imbalance" unless it becomes permanent.
It also does not give any advantage really. You will still need star chart mats and bloods from the dailies even after you reach twilight ten.
At the moment during 1x as a bot you need a very specialised strategy to make money. Auto culti has been nerfed so hard that you rarely make a hundred k coins above repair fee for 8 hrs botting. I think DQ system would be fun, but not to make a ton of money as that would bring back economy that we had before. But its true its very hard to make money as a farmer right now.
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Yet more people with Invitation Scrolls pretending them having it is reward of their ''being clever'' and those that didnt have Invitation Scrolls ''not making the most of it''.
Seems like people dont realise not everyone has a friend-list full of dead chars that never log on any more, you know, some people have a friends-list with only active people and like to keep their F/L updated. Saying stuff likeforbiddenwords wrote: »The event was out there for anyone and everyone to use, if you didn't make the most out of it (for whatever reasons) while it lasted, then you are the only one to blame.
is borderline **** cuz for these people that wasnt the case, only people that basically have an empty friends-list or filled with ppl that no longer play, had room to pull a large amount of invitation scrolls.
So things likeforbiddenwords wrote: »And again, the fact that some people were clever and saved their items up, is not PWE's fault either. No one stopped you from doing it as well.
Isnt true, cuz yes, actually having active players on your friends-list stops you. Actually using the friends-list for what it exists for in the first place stops you.0 -
forbiddenwords wrote: »Agree with @zentfamily. Don't get me wrong, I would love more Ancient Gifts too, but blaming PWE for creating "inbalance" is a bit too much. The event was out there for anyone and everyone to use, if you didn't make the most out of it (for whatever reasons) while it lasted, then you are the only one to blame. And again, the fact that some people were clever and saved their items up, is not PWE's fault either. No one stopped you from doing it as well. All we can do is be grateful to the GMs for pressuring them to bring it back, but in any case it is not PWE's obligation to do it. If CN says it's not possible, then no is no.
lol @ "clever". Takes a real genius to save up ancient gifts huh?
Literally everyone I know were double or triple stacking their ancient gifts to try to conserve it. The daily grind is EXTREMELY long, and if you have more than one character it's simply pointless. Even with triple stacking it took 20+ ancient gifts just to catch up with the current sky levels, and now that I'm out I'm still Sky level 3 while there are people who are already 8+. That's with me doing every single daily every day, even the horrible escort quest.
As it stands now, people who were forced to take breaks from the game but still want to come back and play are severely punished for it, and are forced to grind through 3-6 months of dailies just to be where they were previously. It's completely arbitrary, and unfortunately PWI hasn't done much to alleviate the problem.0 -
Ages ago we had the Fb connect. For blessing. Advertising the game on Fb as well. I know it was a pain but...
WHAT about Something... Like that. It may bring some new faces to the game.0 -
At this point any advertising couldn't hurt xD0
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They should just bring back the fb connect scroll of tomes *troll face*
Nah But if they learn to offer something from fb another secure way im all for it
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@eirghan Was it really FB Connect that got the Scroll of Tome fiasco started? I thought it had to do with the DQ Point system, shows how bad my memory is. I'd probably have to go forum digging, since I could be remembering wrong.
I did save up Ancient Gifts/Inkdragons from when the event was running and since I did have a FL that was largely inactive, I reaped a huge benefit off of it. Doesn't make it right, but there were plenty of people who stocked up out of sheer habit and because the buffs were nice.
And yes, just like DQ and xNW and xTourney/xThursday Night Fights and monitoring xTW for next season to make sure it's working properly (points/pairings etc), this is on the "working on this in the background where it's not immediately player facing" list.
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@kalystconquerer#0876 not sure you could be right. I never saw it first hand *shrugs* If it was the DQ system that caused the sot issue then I dont see why they don't offer things through FB page any longer. I mean... I don't like spamming my FB with advertisements every week, but it's beneficial for the game overall I would imagine. Especially if something was done for example to get the word out about certain promos for new players.
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