Skill Glyph System in the next expansion

dblazen1 wrote: »

What sin was crying?​​

I saw quite a few sins crying about not having paralyze and that their class is too weak and such...

mymbarb wrote: »

dblazen1 wrote: »

What sin was crying?​​

I saw quite a few sins crying about not having paralyze and that their class is too weak and such...

tell them to know better the skills

This steady focus on sins really makes me wanna quit? wtf is wrong with the cn devs? Even they must've noticed by now that sins get a little overboard. Cursed Jail is just plain down stupid. No, It's ****.

Use Elimination > mostly triggers genie > port > cursed > random skills and its over. Absolute and utter BS. If there have been 3 things sins didnt need then its more stealth, more damage and especially paralyze.

So far all upgrade from any class seem decent and somewhat balanced..even dusks and here goes the sin class again. smh. smh double time. smh til it falls off.

@dblazen1 But I know that chinas version is currently on the same level as ours with only minor differences (with all the cards, chart and so on the dif between r9.4 and r9.3 is neglicable). They also have max geared players on their server...question is..are those all archer? dont they have endgame sins? Endgame here or there...a sin with max gear, NP set and full devil stones just destroys everything with the new skillsets rofl...

InB4 someone tells me in CN 80% of the playerbase and 100% of the endgame players are archer and thus ar her got ignored so hard over the years while the niche class sin was overlooked and deemed weak. SMH still.

jsxshadow wrote: »

@dblazen1 But I know that chinas version is currently on the same level as ours with only minor differences (with all the cards, chart and so on the dif between r9.4 and r9.3 is neglicable). They also have max geared players on their server...question is..are those all archer? dont they have endgame sins? Endgame here or there...a sin with max gear, NP set and full devil stones just destroys everything with the new skillsets rofl...

InB4 someone tells me in CN 80% of the playerbase and 100% of the endgame players are archer and thus ar her got ignored so hard over the years while the niche class sin was overlooked and deemed weak. SMH still.

Chinese servers have nowhere near our powercreep. Having a rank 8 recast there is a rare thing, let alone having rank 9 at all.
Unless you mean their p2p version. That's still a thing there right? A p2p and f2p version? Where the f2p version = our version. I think...

So until people over there start complaining about it, we won't see anything get better for this.

Unless that changed anytime in the not so distant past, but that's unlikely.
@asterelle you know anything about the current situation there?​​

lyxx#8562 wrote: »

Cam someone make the translation for the seeker's new skills plz ?

I just took a quick look at the seeker skills and it's mainly the same for almost all of them.

Either more damage, better stance proc effects, more chi gain, lose the additional effect+100% hit chance+something or lose effect+100% hit+more damage.

I might do it later when I get home and feel like translating a 4th class lol.

I will do seeker later today. Sorry been tied up irl

asterelle wrote: »

Sage and Demon skills are being combined. Also I thought the sage version was 5 seconds? In either case I think the clear winner here is Rune 5 which will let you get off an instant 4s stun or a 7.4s stun after 1.5s of channel.[/color]​​

Yes 5 secs, i edited it after i posted
Also chargeable will be like take aim style? If so, for metal skills would that be better than the increase of wep dmg? (rune 1)

What are your thoughts about it Astrelle?
From what I saw that's how I'll pick the upgrades

1. Wings of grace 50% reduced damage taken
2. Lightning strike farther - stronger
3.Thunderous Blast 1 sec chan +100% wep damage
4. Quick shot aps chance increased to100%
5. Stunning arrow - charge for 7.4 seconds stun
6. Thunder shock

All us seekers wold appcriate it , we tend to lose valuable effects on updates rather than only gaining finally like the last update with sac slash .

Pwi must hate seeker or somthing.

@Asterelle i see it now, i thought it was the same as before, my bad. Already Edited the BM ones with the missing rune, which oddly enough was the first one on the list, I don't really know if was supposed to be like this but like 5/10 BM skills have 2 of the exactly same rune, the only difference is the % of weapon damage, my guess is bleed damage but i can be wrong, but imo everyone is going for chi anyways.

This is the story of my PWI life. Starting from day frigging ONE I kept asking myself why the hell I did not go for sin. Day frigging ONE.

Then I told myself psy shines at the very end game and hell I'ma wait for it. Wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...
What the figgidy fudge !

I am just gonna take my g16 sin to learn all passives and new skills and enjoy the game as I should have... from day ONE!

FUUDGE!

Stormbringer

Sonic Boom

Rune 1: Additional [40% + 1360, 60% + 2040, 80% + 2720, 100% + 3400] weapon damage + fixed
Rune 2: Additional [80% + 1360, 120% + 2040, 160% + 2720, 200% + 3400] weapon damage + fixed to mobs
Rune 3: 1T 2I charges =>Additional [80% + 1360, 120% + 2040, 160% + 2720, 200% + 3400] weapon damage + fixed
Rune 4: 2T 1I charges =>Additional [60% + 1360, 90% + 2040, 120% + 2720, 150% + 3400] weapon damage + fixed
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [45%, 50%, 55%, 60%]


Cloudburst - min 40% debuff, max 45%

Rune 1: Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Additional [80%, 120%, 160%, 200%] weapon damage to mobs
Rune 3: Max debuff increased to [54%, 61%, 68%, 75%] - this is what should be applied on 3T charges i think
Rune 4: Irrespective of charges, debuff increased to [45%, 50%, 55%, 60%]
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [45%, 50%, 55%, 60%]

Deafening Thunder - Demon's range

Rune 1: Additional [20%, 30%, 40%, 50%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage to mobs
Rune 3: 1T 2I charges => Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage
Rune 4: 2T 1I charges => [50% + 25%, 60% + 30%, 70% + 35%, 80% + 40%] attack speed reduction + chan reduction
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [5%, 10%, 15%, 20%]

Thunder Strike - Demon + Sage combined

Rune 1: Additional [20%, 30%, 40%, 50%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage to mobs
Rune 3: 1T 2I charges =>Additional [40% + 1360, 60% + 2040, 80% + 2720, 100% + 3400] weapon damage + fixed
Rune 4: 2T 1I charges => Enemy minimum hp threshold increased to [50%, 60%, 70%, 80%]
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [5%, 10%, 15%, 20%]

Downburst - Demon + Sage combined

Rune 1: Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Chan speed increase [29%, 31%, 33%, 35%]
Rune 3: 2T 1I charges => Additional [80%, 120%, 160%, 200%] weapon damage
Rune 4: 1T 2I charges =>Additional [60%, 90%, 120%, 150%] weapon damage
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [39%, 44.5%, 50%, 55.5%]

Ice Bullet - Demon + Sage combined

Rune 1: Additional [20%, 30%, 40%, 50%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Increase chi gain to [15, 20, 25, 30]
Rune 3: Disarm target for [0.5, 1, 1.5, 2] seconds
Rune 4: "Seal" (silence I guess) target for [0.5, 1, 1.5, 2] seconds
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [39%, 44.5%, 50%, 55.5%]

Lunar Surge - Demon + Sage combined

Rune 1: Additional [20%, 30%, 40%, 50%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Irrespective of charges, knockback [10m, 11m, 12m, 13m]
Rune 3: 1T 2I charges => Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage
Rune 4: 2T 1I charges => Increase knockback range [4m, 5m, 6m, 7m]
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [5%, 10%, 15%, 20%]

Frigid Thunder - Demon + Sage combined

Rune 1: Additional [20%, 30%, 40%, 50%] weapon damage
Rune 2: Increase chi gain to [20, 25, 30, 35]
Rune 3: 2T 1I charges => Additional [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%] weapon damage
Rune 4: 2T 1I charges => I think it guarantees the freeze for [3.1, 3.4, 3.7, 4] seconds
Rune 5: When transformed, increase damage by [5%, 10%, 15%, 20%]

Moonblade - Demon + Sage combined (wtf)

Not 100% clear on this pre-rune section, it's either redundant or more than one way to guarantee the effects:
When transformed:
("Ice-Ray Ball")???, maybe 1I 1T => Guarantee amp on 1st strike
1T 1I => Guaranteed heal on 4th strike
Thunder > Ice => Guarantee amp on 1st strike
Ice > Thunder => Guaranteed heal on 4th strike

would appreciate any help with that one

Rune 1: Additional [80%, 120%, 160%, 200%] weapon damage

Runes 2-5 skill description says 100% guarantee for effects on 1st and 4th strike when transformed, which is the current meta for sage and demon so makes sense and maybe base + Rune 1 descs are just a typo and that gibberish above can be ignored.

Rune 2: No effect when you turned the double chance to trigger increased to [35%, 40%, 45%, 50%]. Not sure with this one. Maybe when not transformed, trigger rates increased from 25 to [35%, 40%, 45%, 50%]
Rune 3: 3T => 100% change for amp on 1st strike, chance for heal on 4th increased to [35%, 40%, 45%, 50%]
Rune 4: 3I => 100% chance for heal on 4th strike, change for amp on 1st increased to [35%, 40%, 45%, 50%]
Rune 5: When transformed, deal additional [120%, 180%, 240%, 300%] weapon damage

Supercell - 2nd cast => 1 sec chan, 50 chi cost

Rune 1: 3T => Does not trigger 2nd cast proc, channeling reduced to [2.7, 2.3, 1.9, 1.5] seconds
Rune 2: 3I => Does not trigger 2nd cast proc, also does a [1, 2, 3, 4] second paralyse
Rune 3: 2T 1I => In addition to skill damage increase, another 6 second skill damage increase? ("injury to person or strange skills") of [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%]
Rune 4: 1T, 2I => 3 second invincibility, heal increased to [55%, 60%, 75%, 100%] of max hp
Rune 5: When transformed, chance for 2nd cast proc increased to [40%, 60%, 80%, 100%]

Edit: @jsxshadow pointed out for most of the Rune 5, the effect was a skill damage increase rather than additional % weapon damage. Looks like not the case for Moonblade though.

Edit: updated with @asterelle changes from CN