Barter Event! Session 4 Winnars!!!

thenamesdomino
thenamesdomino Posts: 545 Perfect World Employee
Hey Everyone!

So our Auctioneer has gone through the entries selected a winner for each Barter!

So without further ado... your winning Bids.
Morning Barter
x50 Basic Badges and (1) War Avatar Chest : S

Winner:
Character Name : Testament
Server : Tideswell

Winning Bid:
Drakeflame Stone
Yaksha Stone
Warsong Waistband Inscription x100
Brilliance Stone x2
Abyss Stone
Magma Stone x2
Pyro Stone x100
Flood Stone x100
Bloody Stone x 10
Silence of Frost +10 (Incomp. Sapphire Gem)
Deadly Thorn +11 (Garnet Gem x2)
Striking Dragon Fist +10 (Perf. Garnet Shard x2)
Dragon Orb Ocean x3
Fuhsi Pearl x50
Dustfall Relic x3
Astropira Pearl x300
Bite of Archosaur x 3
Warsong Inscription x 40
Fortification Seal x 15
Mystical Pill x1000
Phoenix Feather x 880
Flowing Crystal x20
Soldier's Pay x1500
Hyper Exp Stone x 300
Scarlet Machinated Terror
Golden Riding Dog Mount
Colored Deer Egg
Aurora's Egg
Baby Dalmation Pet Egg
Divine Tiger Sage Pet Egg
Purple Puff Bird Pet Egg
S Card:
Jane The Harper (80/80)
Archdemon Isrifar (80/80)
A Cards:
Pet Skill Trainer Tsu
Lord Isrifar
Burial Inferno
Duke Blacke
Mystic Trainer
Fei Kungxing
Venomancer Trainer
Psychic Trainer
Dismal Duke
Cleric Trainer
Guard Seven
Wizard Trainer
Archer Trainer
Assassin Trainer
Heavenly Tiger




Evening Barter
Crown of Madness Coupon


Winner:
Character Name : nub
Server : Twilight Temple

Winning Bid:
Gear:
Puzzle cube badge broken +5
shadow ashura hat +10 (3 Dot's)
Dark death thorn daggers(Gof,0.05,max attk +130) 2 garnets +12
Ocean supreme brigandine(r8r plate) (0.05 x2, mp+217) +7
Ocean supreme boots(r8r boots) (0.05, magic+9, mp+214) +7
Ocean supreme pants(r8r legs) (350hp, hp recovery+9) +7
generals badge r8 ring
Shadow ashura wrists +5
Shadow ashura greaves +8 (3x Dot's)
Ocean supreme armour(3x Dot's) +7
ashura boots +7 (3x Dot's)
ashura wrists +7 (3x Dot's)
Jadeon Emperor Defiance bow g16 +1 (0.05x2, 100phys attk)
lionheart necklace +7 (2x yakasha stones)
lionheart belt +7 (2x yakasha stones)
full g16 awakened LA armour set +5-+7 all 4 sockets
drunk azure daggers(2016 TW daggers)
chaotic sign of frost
silk perfume wings
spectral haze wings
blue faction uniform set

cards:
elder of streams(s)
skyscreamer(s)

Pets:
2 Giant bunny eggs
Noctulient mount egg
Dark abyss mount egg
Machinated Terror egg
Aurora Egg
Cursed tiger demon egg
Sho the ninja frog
Ancestral horror egg
baby lochmur egg
infant devil egg
5x anniversairy mounts
doom stare mount

Misc:
astrospira pear lvl 1 x140
war avatar order x30
Nirvana key x638
fairy box key x611
reflective shard x311
warsong inscription x100
garan stone
soldier pay x201
jade dragon order x193
subsiding dirt x307
feerless blessing x3
peerless blessing x1
invincible blessing x6
suspicious dragon orbs x4
chrono keys x3
dragonlord coins x600
espionage potion x229
tideborn guardian medal x30
jade of returning x6
orb of cultivation x9
konwuu blade x3
strongwind badge x6
Ballot
endless armour card x4
major homestead supply bag
ancient gift x2

White egg (white jaguar mount, from public quest 2)



Would the winners please destroy those items listed.


If your bid was not selected this go round, do not despair... Even better items are being put up for Barter later today!

Comments

  • b3arz
    b3arz Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    ...
  • b3arz
    b3arz Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Lol Domino, can you please explain how r9s3 belt and Plate,Legs,wrist,Boots.. +10/11 Refine, r9s3 Weapon at +12 refine with x2 icebourne, s2 nirvy helm/robe +12 with 4 dot in each, Ashura wrist/boots +10 with 4 dots in ea, +12 s2 phy necklace, and sign of frost +12 refine.. and loses to this bid.. that's like 1/10th if not 1/20th of that.. beats me. Idk if you just overead my bid, or favoritism was played in this event. But i'll tell you right now, im not happy about it. Slap in the face if you ask me.
    Post edited by b3arz on
  • zealthared1337
    zealthared1337 Posts: 19 Arc User
    b3arz wrote: »
    Lol Domino, can you please explain how r9s3 belt and Plate,Legs,wrist,Boots.. +10/11 Refine, r9s3 Weapon at +12 refine with x2 icebourne, s2 nirvy helm/robe +12 with 4 dot in each, Ashura wrist/boots +10 with 4 dots in ea, +12 s2 phy necklace, and sign of frost +12 refine.. and loses to this bid.. that's like 1/10th if not 1/20th of that.. beats me. Idk if you just overead my bid, or favoritism was played in this event. But i'll tell you right now, im not happy about it. Slap in the face if you ask me.

    Lolz... I try and stay off these winners post, because most of the times its people complaining unjustly. But I am compelled to say Mr. b3arz has a really good point, there is just no way the winner of "Crown of Madness" was the best bid. At least not compared to b3arz bid. I too would like a "bartering for dummies" explanation on how b3arz did not win. At the very least it appears suspect that this may not be as "fair" or "straightforward" as we are led to believe.

    Disappointing event.. meh
  • b3arz
    b3arz Posts: 33 Arc User
    i'll repeat my bid just to make it clear.. like Lol.. im just dumbfounded right now...

    Gear:
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis (2 socket(s)) +12 Refine Shard: x2 Icebourne Stone Mag. Atk +100
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis Gloves (4 socket(s)) +10 Refine Shard x4 Exclusive Garnet Shard Phys. Def. 70
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis Wrap (4 socket(s)) +11 Refine Shard: x4 Exclusive Garnet Shard Phys. Def. 70
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis Robe (4 socket(s)) +10 Refine Shard: x4 Exclusive Garnet Shard Phys. Def. 70
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis Sandals (4 socket(s)) +10 Refine Shard: x4 Exclusive Garnet Shard Phys. Def. 70
    ☆☆☆Apotheosis Belt Engrave: Phys. Res.: 225
    ☆☆Shadow Ashura Hat (4 Socket(s)) +12 Refine Shard: x4 Diamond of Tiger Attack Lv +1 Engrave: Physical Attack +150
    ☆☆Shadow Ashura Cloak (4 Socket(s)) +12 Refine Shard: x4 Diamond of Tiger Attack Lv +1 Engrave: Phys. Res.: +330
    ☆Ashura's Boots (4 Socket(s)) +10 Refine Shard: x4 Diamond of Tiger Attack Lv+1
    ☆Ashura's Bracers (4 Socket(s)) +10 Refine Shard: x4 Diamond of Tiger Attack Lv+1
    ☆Chaotic Sign of Frost +12 Refine Engrave: 10 Dex
    ☆☆Puzzle Cube Badge·Emptiness +12 Refine Engrave: Dex +9 Phy Attack 40 (2 Socket(s)) +12 Spirit x2
    ☆☆Ring of Trauma Engrave: Magic Attack +20
    ☆☆General's Badge Engrave: Magic +6
    ☆Calm Robe: Lunar Glade
    ☆☆Mortal Relief
    ☆☆Ceremonial Sphere
    ☆Awakened Demon Spell Robe
    ☆Ancestral Robe

    Cards:
    S card: Anonymous Wiseman
    A Card: Overseer Aeban
    A Card: Archer Trainer
    A Card: Heavenly Tiger
    A Card: Sheomay x2
    A Card: Shadowskull Lich
    A Card: Dread Lord Hengchih
    A Card: Primeval Elemental
    A Card: Cleric Trainer
    A Card: Gaurnob Guard
    A Card: Tideborn Princess x2
    A Card: Lady Frostburn
    A Card: Lord Gugg

    Pets:
    Shadow Fury Bear Egg x15
    Red Squirrel Pet Egg x15
    Panderic Knight x1
    Doom's Stare Egg x1
    Cerberus Pup Egg x1

    Star Chart:
    Level 16 Star Chart
    Nebula Dust Orb x63
    Starglade Chest x18
    Astrobana Pearl Lv1 x2
    Astrospira Peral Lv1 x2
    War Avatar Pack C x21

    Misc:
    Gold Guardian Charm x1
    Gold Spirit Charm x2
    Ginseng Tonic Rice Ball x10
    Feastworthy Crab Dumplings x19
    Festive and Fresh Dumplings x18
    Rainbow Lantern Yuanxiao x20
    Ancient Gift x11
    Dragon Orb (5 Star) x120 (18 gold each so 2,160 Gold Value)
    Hyper EXP Stone x3,183 (20 Silver ea on sale (636.6 Gold value)
    Lost Giant's Amulet x1,174
    Lost Incantation Amulet x3,388
    Lost Aether Amulet x15,991
    Teleacoustic x76
    Dream Guardian Scroll x76
    Supply Tokens x127
    Teleport Incenise x323
    Portal Banners x1
    Bless Box of Attack x54
    Profundity Scroll I x3
    War Front Secret Gift x1
    Drunk Lotus Pill x1
    Advice Box x47
    Vitae Pill x10
    Inkdragon's Blood x4
    Invitation Scroll x12
    Elysian Pill x2
    Generic Design Pack: Basic x1
    Primordial Blood x8
    Blood Whisper Stone x1
    Wheat Seed x3
    Pepper Seed x1
    Cloud Wonder x20
    Commander Badge: Shroud x1
    Vanguard Badge: Luminance x1
    Redbloom Dew x1400
    Chiflow Dew x1400
    Attendance Sheet x98
    Lucky Cube Game Coin x4
    Nirvana Palace Key x190
    Sweet Memory x2
    Perfect Horn x7
    Feat Token x10,961
    Apple Pie x4
    Dragon Blood x2
    Major Gift Money x1
    Fairy Box Key x487
    Jade Dragon Order x42
    Reflective Shard x390
    Radiant Shard x22
    X'Mas Fashion Box (Fixed Color)
    Mystical Pill x33
    Crushed Emblem x2
    Christmas Event Ticket: Dawn x15
    Christmas Event Ticket: Dusk x15
    Christmas Event Ticket: Noon x15
    Salted Fish x5
    Case of Moonlight x1
    Soldiers' Pay 727
    Archosaur Guardian Medal x1
    Identity Stone x1
    Wraith Hunter Insignia x1
    Jade of Returning x10
    Starseeker Powder x5
    Barbaric Blood x6
    Dragonlord's Coin x400
    Dancing Phoenix Shard x1
    Subsiding Dirt x85
    Sigil of Nightbloom x22
    Elysian Seal x10
    Silent Sea Sandgrain x3
    Professional Designgraph x1
    Teleport Stone x146

    Character Name: Zanarki
    Server: Etherblade
  • monarchwiggins
    monarchwiggins Posts: 11 Arc User
    Why is everyone complaining im sure all of you know by now the winning bid is choosen at random by anyone that meets the base qualifactions, GM's arent gonna sit there and go through EVERYONES bid item by item. Just look at some of the prev winning bids. Its just an exciting event and gives us something to do
  • hocic0
    hocic0 Posts: 36 Arc User
    Thanks for the S Chest.
  • dregen543210
    dregen543210 Posts: 110 Arc User
    White egg was valued at several billion, that's why he won.
  • b3arz
    b3arz Posts: 33 Arc User
    +12 refine is valued at 305g x 3.8m ea =1159M x 5 = 5795M.. +10 refine valued at 75g x 3.8m ea = 285M x 1425M, +11 refine valued at 160g x 3.8m ea valued at 608M.. so thats 7828M.. full r9 valued at 745g on sale 2831M in value making it10659M.. 16 dot valued at 55m ea = 880M making it 11,539,000,000 Coin value.. then if u want to go by bound items of quest or whatever items u want.. just my Dragon Orb (5 Star) and Hyper stones.. is valued for 2,796.6 Gold.. at 3.8m ea = 10,627,080,000 Coin.. so yea.. 21Bil.. worth of stuff.. for a guy to bid some +7 r8r and s3 nirvy.. (which the +7 would be removed in equal to my +7 of all gears since ive only calced based off +8-12.. not +7.. a mount.. worth 21Bil.. doesn't sound logical at all. I should have won this bidding. That's all I got to say.
  • dregen543210
    dregen543210 Posts: 110 Arc User
    b3arz wrote: »
    +12 refine is valued at 305g x 3.8m ea =1159M x 5 = 5795M.. +10 refine valued at 75g x 3.8m ea = 285M x 1425M, +11 refine valued at 160g x 3.8m ea valued at 608M.. so thats 7828M.. full r9 valued at 745g on sale 2831M in value making it10659M.. 16 dot valued at 55m ea = 880M making it 11,539,000,000 Coin value.. then if u want to go by bound items of quest or whatever items u want.. just my Dragon Orb (5 Star) and Hyper stones.. is valued for 2,796.6 Gold.. at 3.8m ea = 10,627,080,000 Coin.. so yea.. 21Bil.. worth of stuff.. for a guy to bid some +7 r8r and s3 nirvy.. (which the +7 would be removed in equal to my +7 of all gears since ive only calced based off +8-12.. not +7.. a mount.. worth 21Bil.. doesn't sound logical at all. I should have won this bidding. That's all I got to say.

    I highly doubt you actually have 120 +5 dragon orbs. Check their max refine grade again.

    White egg was pretty much the rarest mount in the game, while everyone else just gave old/mediocre gears. +12 refine is worthless if the gear itself is bad.


  • aensidhe
    aensidhe Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    It is favouritism. Just check out the guild, and all the deleted threads about favouritism. As for rare mounts? Please..how many mounts were 'rare' in PWI and then not within weeks? I wouldnt be surprised if some of these items actually don't get removed from inventory since, as some suggest, GMs can't be bothered to check forum bids let alone inventory items of such a long list.
  • sawyers
    sawyers Posts: 26 Arc User
    This CoM winning bid is a joke. There were atleast five better bids lol. But gz to the lucky one.
  • dregen543210
    dregen543210 Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    sawyers wrote: »
    This CoM winning bid is a joke. There were atleast five better bids lol. But gz to the lucky one.

    If we're being honest the AM bid was honestly worth more than the PM bid excluding the white egg, but nothing beats the white egg, it conquered all bids.

    I'm basically telling ya'll to get gud, shoulda done your public quests, or learned how to give awesome blow jobs.
  • lichtfuerst
    lichtfuerst Posts: 31 Arc User
    I dont think they want to give the prices to chars which got quit any prices. I mean it is obviously not for the character itself but for the main character, so all the R9 3rd cast bids get sorted out, which personally I think is a good decision.
  • tuttle
    tuttle Posts: 254 Arc User
    I agree with the prior posts that the winning bid is a joke, I didn't think I had the top bid myself, but like the dude with the full set of r9 said, his bid is worth far more than the winning bid to any real player.
  • weapon762
    weapon762 Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Can sombody tell me why sombody would npc a freaking r9 toon? Just to get a crown of madness ? That's just madness within it self gg lol
    Even an s chest without a gaurteed specific card seems rather pointless .

    P.s those things are practically common within our server, so even if it was a resale that stuff (that they bartered ) could have all been just sold to buy one from a player , it's not like it's a gm hat dudes .
    Vae Victis.
  • kartter
    kartter Posts: 152 Arc User
    Cause they bought that account.....simply.
  • b3arz
    b3arz Posts: 33 Arc User
    null
    I didn't buy the account lol? Zanarki was a psy l created on same account as my main assassin Elysian. Before primal came out all you needed was gear and skill. Now you need countless hours of PvE that I just don't have time for on multiple toons. That is why I account stashed all my la gear and physical ring and neck and stuff I didn't use anymore and everything on zanarki gear and non tradeable items so that I could win the helm and account stash it to Elysian. Everything I bidded was legit, even where the item was being sent was legit. My offer was better then any offer on the post, but I lost because of posts about fake bids, or **** accounts bullcrap, maybe the gm should of said, zanarki is this a serious bid? Are all the items you bidding on the character? Two simple questions.. i do want to make it clear, I'm not mad or hate the person who won or trashing his name, congrats on winning, he bidded not knowing he was going to win just being honest bidder. But I do think GM's should of cared more about this event then they do.
  • lichtfuerst
    lichtfuerst Posts: 31 Arc User
    Would the winners please destroy those items listed.

    Big LOL at this, since you don't do it yourself might aswell give this out for free.
    What if the person winning this "forgets" to npc the valuable items, ijs.
    Not like it is the first time people didn't quite told the truth/used something very convenient (10* hint, hint).
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    i think everyone knows when they bid they are counting partly on luck since the first winner. It's positive in one way because it gives people who otherwise wouldn't even bother bidding a shred of hope that they might luck out and get it even if they are not bill gates rich fox-49.gif

    Congrats to the winner, you got lucky :)
    ​​
  • prancing
    prancing Posts: 143 Arc User
    I thought this was a barter event, not an inventory dump.

    I thought this was a barter event. Not dump 100% of your useless inventory and spend 20 minutes writing stuff lol​​
    m5arXCN.png
  • jsxshadow
    jsxshadow Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    Even if the guy bidding his r9 set would've won I would've just died of laughter if the CoM was Charbound :DDDDDDDDD That would've been epic and applying logic here, that is probably why the bid wasnt considered. No Acc stashing for you I guess :D You could actually be happy that they didnt accept your bid cause then you possibly would have a gearless char with a com on it and no means of getting that gear back, ever.
  • merchant1337
    merchant1337 Posts: 22 Arc User
    I dont think they want to give the prices to chars which got quit any prices. I mean it is obviously not for the character itself but for the main character, so all the R9 3rd cast bids get sorted out, which personally I think is a good decision.


    kartter wrote: »
    Cause they bought that account.....simply.

    At the end of the day its a "barter even" not a lets try and guess who bought an account so they don't win, or let try and guess why they would npc an r9 toon, all of that is irrelevant, what is relevant are the rules laid out which B3arz has followed. To go off on some "wild speculation" about why hes doing it or if its alt does not matter, (although we have learned its an alt) nevertheless there is no rule laid out that says it cannot be your alts stuff. Again... there is just absolutely no way that the winner had the best bid. Therefore I believe its fair to speculate like other have said that who ever is picking the winner has the ability to pick favorites, or is corrupt and lacking integrity, clearly giving a losing bid the com, or perhaps its his character. But In the end admins are admins right? they may do as they wish. The only request I would put in if you dont mind, is below the bid please put in BOLD WORDS.

    "PWI HAS THE ABILITY TO NOT CHOOSE THE BEST BID, WINNERS ARE NOT ENTIRELY SELECTED ON THE MERITS OR VALUE OF THEIR ITEMS. CAUTION EVEN IF YOUR BID WAS THE MOST IN VALUE IT IS POSSIBLE YOU MAY NOT WIN. PWI RESERVES THE RIGHT TO GIVE ANY EVEN THE WORST BID THE WINNER BARTER ITEM"

    if you may please put that disclaimer, and not waste peoples time, I believe a lot of us would appreciate it.

  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    Its a game... PW tried to make it a fun event for us. I think they probably didnt realize what a **** show of long lists of garbage people would clog the bids with when they came up with the rules and since its a free item and a give away that they're not making money on they dont want to waste paid labour to dig through every list of items to find the exact highest bid.


    I agree with you but It's mostly already known. PW can give items to whoever they want... Or no one at all. It's not some professional event with a million dollar give away that has advertisement or gambling laws associated with it. It's a cyber item in a game forum with a GM who made up a fun contest to give it away. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    ​​
  • tomcool
    tomcool Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    hmm, have to agree
    LOLb:victory
  • fignus
    fignus Posts: 1 Arc User
    From the tread PWI 8th Anniversary Barter Event!

    "Here’s how this will work:
    Each week we will create forum threads listing an item up for barter. We will also list an opening barter item. Players who have this item, or an item of equal or more value may put that item up for barter. This includes items that are bound to your character. Once an initial bid has been made, you may attempt to beat that bid by offering up better or more items up to barter. Keep going until we close bids for that item. Have the best bid and you win the Barter. Please note… Only bid items you are willing to part with, as we will be removing those items from your character (both bound and unbound) when we give you your bartered item."

    The important parts are:
    Have the best bid and you win the Barter.

    and

    we will be removing those items from your character (both bound and unbound) when we give you your bartered item


    So ya, please start complaining that the best bid doesnt have to win. Even pwi said that the best bid has to win and just count how many times they used the word "bid" here. The meaning of a bid is that the best bid wins or its meaningless.
    Inb4 people have to remove the items by themself because gms dont care much or did i understand something wrong?
    Would the winners please destroy those items listed.

    I mean i dont care much about this event. 3/4 of the people are just writing a list of junk and useless items to empty their inventory. I mean they count stuff like Astrospira Pearl Lv1which you get every day from boring dailies and which is pretty much useless after you have a star chart with a Apitude of 10 as 1 gold each just because the price of the boutique (which is really overpriced) says so.
  • prancing
    prancing Posts: 143 Arc User
    Man
    Tideswell server

    Dragon Orb (5 star) (462)


    5 star orb from boutique is 18 gold, 18 times 462, times gold price equals a hypothetical 33,264,000,000 33 billion coins.​​
    m5arXCN.png
  • xlayon
    xlayon Posts: 80 Arc User
    I've read alot of good opinions but the GMs have made their decision. This post should probably be closed now. If people want to continue qqing about the GMs decision making for all these barter events just make a post about it. Just my opinion
  • tommcc9
    tommcc9 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    nub here, well i get people are salty and im sorry, im also very grateful i did win but to be honest you offer gear like its some big mighty offer, anyone can get 20b worth of items just "whip out your credit card" but try farming thousands of hours to get white egg pet, then when you win which im really grateful for dont get me wrong but just npcing it like its just trash, ye tell me about it pq2 is broken try get that white egg back you can't, your 20b gear aparantly valued at 20b you can just whip your credit card out again and keep cashshopping.......
    b3arz wrote: »
    +12 refine is valued at 305g x 3.8m ea =1159M x 5 = 5795M.. +10 refine valued at 75g x 3.8m ea = 285M x 1425M, +11 refine valued at 160g x 3.8m ea valued at 608M.. so thats 7828M.. full r9 valued at 745g on sale 2831M in value making it10659M.. 16 dot valued at 55m ea = 880M making it 11,539,000,000 Coin value.. then if u want to go by bound items of quest or whatever items u want.. just my Dragon Orb (5 Star) and Hyper stones.. is valued for 2,796.6 Gold.. at 3.8m ea = 10,627,080,000 Coin.. so yea.. 21Bil.. worth of stuff.. for a guy to bid some +7 r8r and s3 nirvy.. (which the +7 would be removed in equal to my +7 of all gears since ive only calced based off +8-12.. not +7.. a mount.. worth 21Bil.. doesn't sound logical at all. I should have won this bidding. That's all I got to say.

    sorry what? +12 refine is 1.1b? check my previous bid them daggers +12 are clearly 1.1b worth +12 too...
    oh and are you not forgetting? 0.1 interval r8r plate you think this grows on trees? you realise im a sin and sage and this thing is like incredible to get combined with the 0.05 r8r boots i offered?
    oh damn i didn't realise you could just cashshop 0.1 interval r8r plate here i thought it was like insanely lucky???
    oh and all the dots i offered too??? oh only 55m each on your server... try 75m on mine...
    eirghan wrote: »


    Congrats to the winner, you got lucky :)
    ​​
    thankyou

    my chips came with no salt, id like some of yours.

    These event's are amazing and i love that the GM's try to make the game fun i know im really grateful i won.

    P.s you may be comparing value of everything, maybe the GM's track how many people tisha/tienkang +12 coz i can tell you ive had 6-7 +12 items and ive only ever used 1 flame orb so maybe, wealth isn't the answer and luck is??? my 2 cent.
    Post edited by tommcc9 on