Venos More More

laiwaisan
laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
edited July 2016 in General Discussion
Come on a real update they are one of the originals that started this game

Venos More More 24 votes

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erokeszeevhaorarieihdiusironpwnermarianafixmayiawolfnoctusvenatorcannabudskenshin151dann345 10 votes
Its a dead class wipe it from create option
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raidsreignroziverusamasalaozenderbankerebisamamark#8106 6 votes
I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
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manbabylaiwaisangimpelinezigheartshopcheesetushanyaya#7507eeepsilonnene#6448 8 votes
What the heck is veno oh that class no one uses cause its nerfed and outdated right?
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  • dingo488
    dingo488 Posts: 936 Arc User
    Where is the 5th option :

    [X] Venos are fine, people should start learning that their lack of skill =/= a class being bad, and focus on how they can improve instead of throwing all blame on stuff they cant personally change.
  • capnk
    capnk Posts: 486 Arc User
    Venos are fine. Maybe they're weak in 1v1, but in mass pvp they are devastating. Veno makes any squad better, whether in pve or pvp.

    And why do people keep asking for more pets? Nobody uses the evolved pets that are currently available other than monkey and the occasional phoenix for people that can't afford monkey.
  • noctusvenator
    noctusvenator Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited July 2016
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    I think that Venomancer PETS need a upgrade to their survivability in pvp, like a spirit stat or something just to stop them being 1 shot in pvp.

    Other than that venos are relativly fine, there are some minor complaints that everyone has about their class but those are minor to be honest.

    Although saying that, it would be nice if next time skills got updated we had something OTHER than fox skill upgrades. xD
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    No, venos are fine especially after increase to pet survivability after the pet heal upgrade.​​
  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    What Venomancers need is more presets with a wide variety of fluffy tails.

  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    What Venomancers need is more presets with a wide variety of fluffy tails.

    Oh yes most definitely this ^ I would like a goat veno please.​​
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  • noctusvenator
    noctusvenator Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited July 2016
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    eirghan wrote: »
    No, venos are fine especially after increase to pet survivability after the pet heal upgrade.​​

    I haven't been able to test it to my satisfaction but I remember doing some tests when it was first released and I do not think that the pet deaden works in PVP, it is a PVE only buff. Atleast my pets still manage to be one shot by some players.

    I will agree however that it is beyond amazing in PVE where you can pretty much keep pets alive forever if heals are timed correctly.

  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    Die venos
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  • nene#6448
    nene#6448 Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
    I would be happy with slightly tankier pets, currently they die on 1-2 shots in PVP. :/​​
  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    What Venomancers need is more presets with a wide variety of fluffy tails.

    This is what my veno needs. There should also be a random option included, that changes the colour, tails, presets after a set time in a random order. Make the veno all pretty and awesome to look at. It will have pvp benefits as well. People will stop their attacks to look at the pretty veno first onion-7.gif​​
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  • zentfamily
    zentfamily Posts: 234 Arc User
    [x] KOS all venos. tiger-24.gif
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  • paralleogram
    paralleogram Posts: 596 Arc User
    Venos are fine. Seriously you are the loudest bunch.

    How bout some upgrades on one of the other classes, like clerics or archers?​​
    Here we go again....
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    superfedee wrote: »
    dbs need tidal normal-1.gif

    lol get out. leave this thread right now tiger-30.gif​​
  • arspaulina#4310
    arspaulina#4310 Posts: 347 Community Moderator
    Well this escalated quickly - we went from "Oh veno's aren't strong enough" to "they can go die in the firey pits of hell and also buff db's and give them Tidal" LOL
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  • rieihdius
    rieihdius Posts: 468 Arc User
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    superfedee wrote: »
    dbs need tidal normal-1.gif​​

    :D Yes and we can also give them:
    Perma Bramble Hood, Perma soul of vengeance (with 1 or 2 sec cooldown like bramble guard), tele stealth (like wizards)
    Reaper form now should add a mix of sage / demon fox form.
    10 minutes Daeden buff with 1 minute cooldown,
    seeker def / atk level buff, another tele skill, another skill that reset their reset all skill :D
    All this buffs need to remain after dead/purge :D:D:D


    Now jokes aside and going back to the thread. What I would add to venos is:

    - More pet bag capacity, at least 2 or 3 more pages.

    - The ability to capture more monsters. There is a lot of monster that can not be captured and the devs seem to refuse to allow us to do it.

    - Make the pets a bit stronger on PVP, With this I'm not saying they should be broken but at least survive one or two attacks from players :D (this can also by add to mystics)

    - Also if they make more legendary pets (cash shop ones) at least give them an original skin and not some all class pet/mob/npc skin, this in my opinion is something really lame that a lot of game devs tend to do.

    If we look at the 6 legendary pets that exist atm, 4 of them are a copy of something or have a copy of something in the game:

    Herc: there is a freaking army of hercs inside cube, I also saw some hercs on Lunar and/or the town near Lunar..

    Phoenix: there are plenty of mobs that look just like the nix and the evolved version also have his clones.

    Battlebot and Dog: all class pets from packs.

    So far the only ones that I dont recall having clones are the Monkey and the harpy but I would not be surprised if they do (or maybe even did already) some npc/monster/all class pet that looks like those...



  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    As far as I know, the Harpy and the Monkey King are original designs created for those legendary pets. I haven't seen their models being used for anything else in-game, yet. That was the first and probably last time we got (legendary) pets with a unique model. Though, I believe the Celestial Giant still has a unique model. The Phoenix not so much; I think the upcoming Homestead "pet" expansion has a Phoenix pet.

    I suspect they put that kind of effort into their models (Monkey, Harpy) because they were part of the pet evolution update, and they were supposed to be this big thing; first time, after so long, we got new legendary pets and they had to be very appealing in both usefulness and design.
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  • lestaroth
    lestaroth Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I didn't vote as I got other suggestions:

    -Make some monsters less useless, by having them balanced. There are a very big bunch of potential battle pets that are doomed from the start... no specialty, terrible growth, slowness, impossibility to withstand hits or luring. Examples? Ocean Chanter, that parrot, that monkey (not the Sun Wukong)

    -Make some more pets be able to evolve.
    Why could a cuddly pup evolve and not a tabby plumdrop? Devs do not like adult cats?
    The same goes for really good pets that lose purpose after a while: the Cloud Skatefish, turtles... etc.

    -Like others said, more tameable mobs, but only if points 1 and 2 can be applied.

    -Venoes less getting aggro because of some sneaky spell. I know that bash and roar can work somehow, but it is quite limited.

    There is nothing else going through my mind. I guess I'll snooze a bit during this maintenance.
    Good night... Zzz.

    (oh, btw, pet leveling is I feel much slow. I'm glad I know good places to train mine still)





  • dblazen1
    dblazen1 Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    Pet systems in MMO's are a mistake when pets are given the same kind of power as the player that uses them.

    In PWI, they work well enough in the PvE part.
    In PvP they have their small usages, although weak. They could be a little bit stronger, but there's a fine line in stronger and being too strong to the point where it feels that 1v1 against a veno is going to be a 2v1 where you have to deal with both the pet and the player.​​
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    "another skill that reset their reset all skill :D"

    @rieihdius :lol: dont give them ideas!
  • shopcheese
    shopcheese Posts: 758 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
    I was mostly missing to have a shorter summon time (something like mystics) and 1-2 more skill slots for the pets.. or let the buff-skills not take up any skill slots.
  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    Every living character out there, except venos, hate venos. So I would say they already do well since they annoy everyone :smiley:
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  • eeepsilon
    eeepsilon Posts: 294 Arc User
    I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
    Every living character out there, except venos, hate venos. So I would say they already do well since they annoy everyone :smiley:

    Still I don't get why everyone hate them. I mean I admit purge is annoying, but at same time is really predictable when a veno is going to use it.. I purge more people with my archer than most of the venos I see at NW/TW :D

    Usually the idiots are so focused on killing the veno that they don't even know what purged them.

    People who get purged easily by a veno is either too stupid to predict it or the veno is too pro + overgeared to survive all that punishment :D

    If you ask me most annoying classes are assassin and duskblade. Duskblade I guess is still not that annoying since there are few players that actually know how to play it...
  • nene#6448
    nene#6448 Posts: 226 Arc User
    I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
    eeepsilon wrote: »
    Every living character out there, except venos, hate venos. So I would say they already do well since they annoy everyone :smiley:

    Still I don't get why everyone hate them. I mean I admit purge is annoying, but at same time is really predictable when a veno is going to use it.. I purge more people with my archer than most of the venos I see at NW/TW :D

    Usually the idiots are so focused on killing the veno that they don't even know what purged them.

    People who get purged easily by a veno is either too stupid to predict it or the veno is too pro + overgeared to survive all that punishment :D

    If you ask me most annoying classes are assassin and duskblade. Duskblade I guess is still not that annoying since there are few players that actually know how to play it...


    I have no problem purging people in NW and I am just G16 with R999 weapon tiger-16.gif Tho bewitch and/or monkey/stun really helps when they try to run. tiger-26.gif
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  • jsxshadow
    jsxshadow Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    Venos are fine, especially for 1on1s lol. People these days just cant wrap their heads around how to kill people.

    Massive Chi Burn, Lots of CC, massive debuffs (demon Nova/Ulti and ofc IW but thats not even needed) and ofc Purge. Ya Venos are so weak.

    Why are people complaining about the Venos pets. If your a veno, look at mystic pets -> Cry more? Veno pets can actually survive a hit even from most endgame players. Mystic pets are not even a quarter-shot rofl.

    I agree that the pet system in general needs a revamp since the bugs that have been there from the start are still there and are also effecting Seeker and Storms.
  • nene#6448
    nene#6448 Posts: 226 Arc User
    I want more freakin pets like pokemon i want to collect them all
    jsxshadow wrote: »
    I agree that the pet system in general needs a revamp since the bugs that have been there from the start are still there and are also effecting Seeker and Storms.


    Effecting storms you say? Compared to venos and mystics their "pet" is way tankier so I dont think SB clones need a revamp.
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    Yah seekers pet is pointless =__=