Buying and Selling of accounts

Yes. And if reported properly, both sides should get perma-banned.​​

cant beat em, Ban em. GG

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Personally, I dont friggin care who plays which character. As long as I get fun in PvP its all good. Besides. PWE doesnt lose anything if ppl sell their stuff cause they've already spent money on it.

Personally, I wanted to play a BM and endgame it recently and this whole banning thing is the main reason why I didnt. I have 2 BMs already which are at Astral Sky X and seriously...all the time needed to get the char to max passives even from that point is just crazy. If you could just pay 200 bucks for an account that already has all Passives and you can start gearing it immidiatly sounds like a great idea. It's PWEs own fault. They fail to deliver decent shortcuts on passives. Why can't they put in Bloods in the shop for like 1 gold each? SOOO many people would buy that. I mean GG. Whats the use of getting the sky levels (due to the pills they do sell) when you still need 5 months to farm the daily bloods. I mean wtf.

So again, this is not a problem with the players. It's a problem with PWE failing to deliver decent shortcuts. 3x105, max sky level, enough bloods for all passives/skills -> put it in a pill -> sell it for 1000 Gold in the shop. People will buy this stuff like crazy. I promise and when they do buy it then they will also buy all the gear/refine needed for the char. PWEs Sales-Management is definitly very poor when it comes to earning money obviously and yes. Even tho I am not charging and tend to farm my stuff I would pay 1k Gold for a pill like that if I wanted to make a new character. PvE is nonexistent and boring in this game. If I roll a new char I wanna be able to PvP asap no matter what.

I dont blame people for buying accs. I would too if it wouldn't be so dangerous and I've spent too much time on my chars to get em banned.

I know it's not allowed yet PWI kind of secretly promotes it.

There's name and gender change stones as well as inks to completely remove old names on gear. I can imagine in the future there will also be a way to change servers too.

I honestly don't care either way if accounts are shared or sold. As long as I continue to have fun here, what other people do with their accounts is really none of my business. What really is most important is that the servers stay active enough for me to continue to play. So if that means people pump money into the game by sharing/selling their account and keeping PWI profitable-- so be it.​​

Why would you report them when the game isn't getting new players? if anything sold accounts helps with the playerbase. And yet there's threads of people complaining about the population of the game.

"1) no one got perma banned for goons or +10 orbs. This is why people continue to do things because PWE doesnt do anything about it."

Wrong. I know of three people on the server formerly known as Sanctuary that got permanently banned for abusing the Dragon Orb glitch.

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@magiceffect But this is 2016 people don't want to spend 1+ years to catch up to everyone especially not in a game that is already 10 years old and there are better choices out there. There's a reason MOBAs are so popular now.

PWI is already declining they should be catering to the old players and try to keep them here playing since new players are rare. Most new players are casuals anyway cause hardcore ones will look at newer games to play. Returning players are also generally casuals cause hardcores and big/regular CSers moved on to other games.

A lot of people i know quit cause they wanted to play a different class esp after all the nerfs archers got but why should they spend so much time (which they don't have) to roll a new class when they can... y'know, go to another game or hell, a private server where they can play w/e class they want.

I'd agree with no account selling if this was like.. 2010 when PWI was still big.

Not to mention account selling might be one of the reasons pwcn seems to be still active. People can trade/sell accounts if they are tired of their class and play something else... so they remain in the game and spend more money on their new account they are happy with.

Trying to look by PWE's perspective.
They don't have much saying in this, the game in its core is controlled by wanmei.
Second and actually more important is the interest. Same as any big company, PWE won't invest in anything that doesn't return profit.
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Now why is that not profitable?
By many reasons the player base can't increase all suddenly but it can decrease at any mistake and what holds players in case of those mistakes is the affinity they have to the characters that took so much hard work to get.
And those are the players they want. Not the freebies that take a look, find it hard and quit without putting any effort or cash in it.
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So if they make it easier to build, it lose value at the same rate, and then those little mistakes we see so often start overwhelming for some players and they lose fear of ban or once they get everything maxed, they lose interest and one after another start quitting the game for something different.
That is also the main reason they will never make unbind stones.
That would make things too easy, players would sell old unbound gear to use or fund new or different classes and quit after losing interest.
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Another thing is, players who already has their ingame friendship for long periods of time on daily basis have a value on that too, so often when they get their main character maxed, they start working and investing on their alts and don't quit.
You know what I'm talking about, all those people who have many characters fully r9.
But if they could buy a character in minutes instead of months, none of that grow in the player and they can quit anytime.
If they could sell or trade account, PWE loses the chance of another maxed acc sold.
Even if you don't put cash yourself, but buy cash items with coins, you are still doing your part by farming the coins that the cash shoppers need. And that doesn't matter for PWE because either way, the boutique is selling.
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Another side of this story is the price those who may have heard account sellers say how much was the deal know that its usually incredibly cheap.
I've seen people close deal on an archer full r9s3 with emperor and bow +12 for only 4billion coins.
It doesn't even cover the price of the items, much less all the time working on level, meridian, skills, primal.
So if they sell accounts this cheap now, imagine if they could do it without hiding.
There would be no "affection" or "affinity" or "Value" by the players towards the characters, they would become items and people wouldn't care to work on toons anymore.
No more ban for acc share, no more cash to build alts...
Wanna try a bm? no need to quit your main, Here 500gold and its yours.
Didn't like it? Here trade on this Veno.
Work on some thing new? meh too hard.
And then next time those people who keep trash talking the game but can never quit it start talking about some other game, you wouldn't be so reluctant to go try it. And very possibly never come back since they got lots of new stuff you don't even know. The same way many of us came from older games.
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Speaking of trying other games, many people here came from other servers.
Some of them from bad servers like PWbr, but others came from pirate servers and why is that? If you tried them you know what I'm talking about. It confirms what I was talking about "value" on the characters.
The pirate servers are too easy. You reach level 105 in minutes and buy entire sets of r10+12+josd (yes pirate servers got r10, its easy to exist when you own the server you edit anything you want) without any need to work on all those warsong runs for badges and molds and re-rolls.
My point is... people don't stay on those easy servers. It get boring.
Same reason for the last updates being so focused on things that are inevitable and take months farming.
Got to do meridian or you stay behind on many stats.
Got to do tittles for the same reason.
Got to do star charts for the same reason
Got to do primals or your r9s3 become weaker than g16 maxed on primals and is base for many other things like fsp uch UP consecutively G17, new skills, home system.
Which btw is mutually required for g17 and skills and at the same time is the longest farming thing ever created.
Not many realized this yet but its even bigger than the whole toon and the technically infinite star chart.
All that so you can just buy and sell the account like its any item?
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Tired of cons of it? got moar!
Imagine the amount of acc trading related problems that they would have to deal with case by case people submitting tickets and forcing them to spend on support center.
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I'm not saying it can't be profitable, what I'm saying is. Wanmei is not on top of this. They know pwi's players are different and they won't make a move on a group of players they don't have the experience of dealing with.
They don't often reveal their moves on things like this but if we take other games as reference, it is like when WoW had to hire professionals in economy to make a study on what to do with the ingame economy.
If they by any reason haven't done it yet and decide to maybe they can find a way to profit contrary of all the points made above.
And has to be a priority because there is a lot of profitable things to change in the game and they won't do it because they got their hands full coding new stuff every now and then, and that is the priority because once again, if the game gets boring...

Pwi should be the one selling accounts. People could list them on ARC and the PWI could take a percentage of the money sold. After all all those other web sites are making money off the sales of accounts.

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