Highest magic damage class

krizalidedu3 · January 2016

Hello everyone! Which of the magic classes deal the highest damage, considering all of them are using the same T3 set (around +7 refinement)?

And all the classes are atacking whichever monster without any other class debuffs. That is, the class is completely solo.

freygin · January 2016

If you mean highest damage as in delivering damage as much as possible in any given time, I'd say it's Psychic, it has great dps and also good dph with atk lvl buff, but if you mean damage per hit I think it's wizard, or Seeker, considering this class deal damage that's metal/gold element and with r9.3 , the damage can zerkcrit (I often get hit by higher dph in my damage log coming from a seeker than a wiz)

bloodedone87 · January 2016

Psychic, Wizard, Stormbringer. Not necesarry in this order.
Psychic see the comment above.
Wizard has some powerfull skills like Frozen Flame that can deal 800% of weapon dmg +9779 or Black Ice Dragon Strike dealing 500% weapon dmg and 13955 water dmg.
Storm is powerful if you know in what order to use the skills. If you use Perigean Tide followed by Frozen Lightning you can obtain insane dmg dealt to a monster due to the fact that Perigean 100% decrease metal and water resistance and Frozen Lightning deals both metal and water dmg.And if you have sage frozen lightning and 3 charges same color you deal 50% aditional dmg.
But if you ask all of this for pve porpuse only it doesnt matter anyway since a T3+7 magic char can be pretty efficiant in a dungeon if played well. So any mag class can do the job.

koryn7 · January 2016

Ok, considering that the OP has said against monsters (not players) and with solo buffs, I am going to say Mystic for DPS and Wizard for DPH.

DPS: Mystics have Invigorate which raises their skill damage by 20% until they leave an instance/area and have to reapply it and they can spam NV (Nature's Vengeance) which gives excellent DPS. In fact, a sage mystic gains chi quickly by spamming NV so they can spark quite often. Also, their summons do not suffer from damage reduction on ? level bosses and mobs. A plant summon, Befuddling Creeper lowers the target's magic and physical defense by 20%. Storm Mistress is the summon with the most DPS that Mystics have.

DPH: I would say Wizard for DPH because they have Undine Strike, genie spark, and the new primal pyroshell which increases their crit damage substantially. Psychics have black voodoo which is great, but no other buffs or debuffs to increase their damage (that I know of). Therefore, I think that Wizards have more going for them to increase their damage per hit in PVE.

Finally, I know that Stormbringers have nice debuffs 40% elemental (I think?) and a nice skill that lowers metal and water defense as well. I cannot compare SB damage with Wizzie or Mystic damage so I'll cede the floor to someone who is better informed/experienced.

bloodedone87 · January 2016

koryn7 said:
Ok, considering that the OP has said against monsters (not players) and with solo buffs, I am going to say Mystic for DPS and Wizard for DPH.

DPS: Mystics have Invigorate which raises their skill damage by 20% until they leave an instance/area and have to reapply it and they can spam NV (Nature's Vengeance) which gives excellent DPS. In fact, a sage mystic gains chi quickly by spamming NV so they can spark quite often. Also, their summons do not suffer from damage reduction on ? level bosses and mobs. A plant summon, Befuddling Creeper lowers the target's magic and physical defense by 20%. Storm Mistress is the summon with the most DPS that Mystics have.

DPH: I would say Wizard for DPH because they have Undine Strike, genie spark, and the new primal pyroshell which increases their crit damage substantially. Psychics have black voodoo which is great, but no other buffs or debuffs to increase their damage (that I know of). Therefore, I think that Wizards have more going for them to increase their damage per hit in PVE.

Finally, I know that Stormbringers have nice debuffs 40% elemental (I think?) and a nice skill that lowers metal and water defense as well. I cannot compare SB damage with Wizzie or Mystic damage so I'll cede the floor to someone who is better informed/experienced.

Sb summons Avatar of the Storm and Lunar Shadow doesnt suffer from dmg reduction on lvl ? bosses and mobs same as mystic summons.
And yes Sb cloud burst reduce elemental by 40% .

terryu · January 2016

Honestly, depends a lot on the mob's level, hp pool, defenses, etc.
Also depends on if you're asking about burst damage or extended damage.

On a SUPER basic level and overview,
- Mystics are pretty nice for solo because of mistress, invigorate, and creeper (nice sustain too).
- Wizards with chi shield can keep sparking pretty often.
- Psychics have black voodoo and very often.
- Stormbringers can have a ridiculously high burst during the duration of Perigean Tide and summons too.

From one player to another, it really depends on how well they understand the class and know which buffs/skills/debuffs to do when they're playing solo.

If you're asking purely about which class can obtain a high number on the damage log by themselves. Again, depends on the mob and it's level and defenses.

EDIT:
Levels effect damage for mystic and stormbringers because the summons ignore mob level.
HP pool matters between burst damage and extended damge.

elohim77 · January 2016

krizalidedu3 wrote: »

Hello everyone! Which of the magic classes deal the highest damage, considering all of them are using the same T3 set (around +7 refinement)?

And all the classes are atacking whichever monster without any other class debuffs. That is, the class is completely solo.

for pve... it really doesnt matter, pick the one you like the most, if you look for spike damage, wizard has the best spike pve damage if lvl 11 shatter

zentfamily · January 2016

Frozen Flame does not deal 800% weapon damage.

koryn7 said:
I cannot compare SB damage with Wizzie or Mystic damage so I'll cede the floor to someone who is better informed/experienced.

Storms have damage burst while Perigean Tide is on, which makes them DPH class for the time. After Tide is off they go back to DPS/DoT class.

bloodedone87 · January 2016

Took that info about wizard skill dmg from ecatomb.net. Last thing updated there were the primal skills when first came out. Didnt enter to check on game.

zentfamily · January 2016

Was just another disappoinment propelling me into retiring my wizzy.

mulier · January 2016

venomancer. amp, and godly pet

zoldickun · January 2016

In PVE environment, especially solo, even more especially versus mono-target and without any doubt if we talk about "?" boss this would be mystic...
- Invigorate
- Skill to remove 8% max hp (doesn't work on all boss)
- plants for debuffs
- summons for additional damage (no reduction versus "?" boss
- fast channeling (DPS style)

(And they are tanky and can quickly heal themselves if needed, to add as a solo good argument)

magicsabre · January 2016

krizalidedu3 said:
Hello everyone! Which of the magic classes deal the highest damage, considering all of them are using the same T3 set (around +7 refinement)?

And all the classes are atacking whichever monster without any other class debuffs. That is, the class is completely solo.

1. Highest damage for monster to kill is dps damage. DPH damage is useless in PvE for single boss or monster with millions of hit points.
2. Undine strike is useless for boss, since instead Undine Strike any class can hit boss during same time and do more damage. Undine strike for monster with low HP ... is useless too.
3. Genie skills are common for all classes.

And about better classes look in forums of those classes - Wizards' forum was not visited since August 2015, for example.

Read forum to understand why.

capnk · January 2016

Highest dps is cleric in Ultraviolet Dance spamming Primal Cyclone. Nothing from other classes comes close to this damage output. Mystic would be second and Stormbringer third.

Highest dph I'm not sure, I would assume wizard.

magicsabre · January 2016

capnk said:

...

Highest dph I'm not sure, I would assume wizard.

Test dummy exist on each server. Power rankings for DPH are there. Anyone can see it.

Here is example for seekers:

Screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/48n9mhpzn/
Thread: http://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/discussion/763609/perfect-world-hardest-hits

tictic99999 · January 2016

i can say from playing both endgame stormbringer and endgame wizard that the stormbringer hits much much harder and about 2-3 times as fast. Overall the most powerful is stormbringer because it has the aps greater than that of a mystic and the damage greater than that of a wizard.

eirghan · January 2016

Seekers are not the highest dph class they just are able to cause this illusion.

I still wouldnt really call seeker a caster anyway.

I would go with sb. You have a good long while before nerf, if ever.

bloodedone87 · January 2016

Seeker is not a caster. Even if seekers have 5 or 6 skills that can deal metal dmg still doesnt make them casters.
The OP is asking which of the magic classes deals the highest dmg.
Also someone shown in this thread the dmg for a lvl105 seeker. I have a feeling that it is a r9r3+12 seeker.
The OP is asking about a magic class in T3(G16)+7.

hypereccentrik · January 2016

Yea I'd go with Stormbringer.

freygin · January 2016

Atk level actually works the same as defense debuff in a way.

For example :
- a mystic has 20% def/mdef debuff
- a sage psychic has 25 atk level
- Tyrant Prince Mushi as target mob, he has 4000 pdef and 4000 mdef

Let's see how the damage would be like for ms and psy, 4000 pdef/mdef equals to 48.93% damage reduction or 100-48.93=51.07% from whatever damage coming from each class.
- with 20% debuff, 4000 becomes 3200 = 43.39% dmg redux. So the damage delievered would be 56.61% damage coming from ms skillset, multiplied by 1.2 from invigorate = 67.932%.
- with 25 atk level, 51.07% is multiplied by 1.25 = 63.8375% damage coming from Psy skillset.

They have different skillset with cast/channel time for each attacking skill that also has a constant. So it'd be complicated at this point with a lot of variables coming from both sides. Just for illustration that atk level and defense debuff are both affecting some kind of a base damage coming from each class.

(When all different magic classes are put together in a squad, imo psy will win the damage output. Mdef debuff, invigorate, wiz's undine, all work well for a psychic, while psychic's Black Voodoo is a self buff that further amps the damage to an already weakened target with skill damage that's already amped by invigorate)

In the end I agree with elohim77, it doesn't really matter for PVE, just choose the one you like most. I myself play a cleric and quite happy with it.

@magicsabre : it also happened to Cleric forum, it's pretty much dead since October 2015.

magicsabre · January 2016

bloodedone87 said:
Seeker is not a caster. Even if seekers have 5 or 6 skills that can deal metal dmg still doesnt make them casters.

Yes, I just quoted information, that exist test dummy and best result was for seeker.
No matter if it was magical or melee class, but everyone can test damage per hit (dph) using test dummy.
Wizard has not highest dph and has worse dps (damage per second) in pwi.

freygin said:

...
@magicsabre : it also happened to Cleric forum, it's pretty much dead since October 2015.

Yes, it had happened to Cleric forum too (few months later), but clerics are not dead and are not rare in pwi.

About damage ... here is thread with comparison of stormbringer dmg vs other caster dmg with damage calculations:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/pwi#/discussion/769236/stormbringer-dmg-vs-other-caster-dmg
Everyone can use formulas to calculate damage per each spell.

abbeycardile · January 2016

But obviously.... Clerics are the superior class overall. Boom.

kittyempressa · January 2016

If it's about anti-APS bosses, some above posts have the answer.

If it's about APS-able boss...HA-veno APSing with magic sword in APS-gears has the best DPS if speaking about T3+7 weapon grade.

testxvi · January 2016

kittyempressa wrote: »

If it's about anti-APS bosses, some above posts have the answer.

If it's about APS-able boss...HA-veno APSing with magic sword in APS-gears has the best DPS if speaking about T3+7 weapon grade.

But when a HA-veno is APSing, she isnt casting skills. I'm guessing the whole point of why OP asked about magic class was to actually cast magic skills.

tictic99999 · January 2016

ijs at least my stormbringer can do about 3.33 aps with magic damage for 12 seconds, repeatable every 27 seconds. no other class can compare to that.

If you wonder how: both pets + all my 3 and 4 hit skills

kittyempressa · January 2016

tictic99999 wrote: »

ijs at least my stormbringer can do about 3.33 aps with magic damage for 12 seconds, repeatable every 27 seconds. no other class can compare to that.

If you wonder how: both pets + all my 3 and 4 hit skills

True, HA-veno can have only 2,5APS when APSing in fox. But the thing is...not the pure attack speed, but attack speed with power.

booker27 · January 2016

SB is the best choice tbh cause its a new class and it wont get nerfed anytime soon... or ever. If anything they will probably buff it even more in the future.

Highest magic damage class

Comments

Categories