Earning Time - Information / Help

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Earning time is different in different maps / instances.

Here im going to compile a list of Maps and what type of earning time they use. Please if I have missed out an instance give me a note and ill update. Ill also try to explain how each earning time works.

You have a total of 8 Hours Earning time. Understanding how earning time ticks will help you understand your use of earning time and help you not to run out or use it all.

Types Of Earning Time. (Ill update Descriptions when im fully awear of how each works)

1. Normal Area.
Appears not to use any earning time.
2. Earning Controled Area (Combat)
Appears to only use earning time whall in combat (Define Combat!)
3. Earning Controled Area (No Combat)
Appears to only use earning time whall character is in motion (Check Combat!)
4.

List Of Caves.
Perfect World (Main Map)
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

FB 19
FB 29
FB 39
FB 51
FB 59
FB 69
FB 79
FB 89 (Eden / Brimstone)
FB 99
Earning Controled Area (No Combat)
You are in an Earning Controlled Area. Monster kills will cost you Earning Time.

Heaven / Hell
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

TT

FF

CoF (Cube Of Fate)

Phoenix Valley
Normal Area
this is a Noraml Area. Killing monsters here will not deduct Earning Time and drops, EXP and Sprit from kills will not be reduced.

Warsong
Earning Controled Area (No Combat)
You are in an Earning Controlled Area. Monster kills will cost you Earning Time.

OHT/VOS/OUF/MD
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

Morai (Main Map)
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

EU (Endless Universe)
Normal Area
this is a Noraml Area. Killing monsters here will not deduct Earning Time and drops, EXP and Sprit from kills will not be reduced.

AEU (Advance Endless Universe)
Normal Area
this is a Noraml Area. Killing monsters here will not deduct Earning Time and drops, EXP and Sprit from kills will not be reduced.

Primal World (Main Map) (INCLUDING Story Mode)
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

FPS
Earning Controled Area (Combat)
This area deducts from your Earning Time. Once your Earning time reaches 0, you will no longer receive drops, EXP and sprit from monsters.

UCH

14/10/14 - updated and added some descriptions (need to check Dragon Temple / Race event)
13/10/14 - Created and will update!

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

What does happen if your earning time reach 0 and you go to an instance with normal earning time?

Responce: This will need to be checked out.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · October 2014

phoenix valley

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

phoenix valley

just working on that info now!

Done!

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · October 2014

primal UCH, FSP, TT, Vana, CoA, Tournament event?

i wonder if dragon temple and cube is considered dungeon....

Asone - Raging Tide · October 2014

Would the weekly events count to earning time as well? Sorry I don't know much about this feature at all.

bloodedone87 · October 2014

AEU is not affected by earning time.Is a normal area.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

cube is considered dungeon....

Good point.

bloodedone87 wrote: »

AEU is not affected by earning time.Is a normal area.

Yes Normal Areas dont use any earning time as I understand. Just wanna check out a few bits first tho before i quote.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Asone - Raging Tide wrote: »

Would the weekly events count to earning time as well? Sorry I don't know much about this feature at all.

if your in an area that uses that type of earning time yes.

TZoner - Raging Tide · October 2014

I think the fact that any instances cost earning time is redundant....its not like a person can bot in a dungeon. PWE really needs to fix this bs and make it so earning time is only taken from you when you bot in a non instance area.
Just my opinion.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

I think the fact that any instances cost earning time is redundant....its not like a person can bot in a dungeon. PWE really needs to fix this bs and make it so earning time is only taken from you when you bot in a non instance area.
Just my opinion.

This is not something PWE can control as this will come direct from China. PW CN uses this system. the whole point of this thread is to give you the info to be able to use your earning time to the full. 8 Hours is a lot to use if your using it all your either botting or doing a lot of instances where it uses earning time when you are moveing.

Asterelle - Sanctuary · October 2014

heero200 wrote: »

This is not something PWE can control as this will come direct from China. PW CN uses this system. the whole point of this thread is to give you the info to be able to use your earning time to the full. 8 Hours is a lot to use if your using it all your either botting or doing a lot of instances where it uses earning time when you are moveing.

Tweeking the instance configurations is something they have done in the past.
For instance we used to have hypers enabled in FCC while China does not. China has free-PVP enabled in FB29 while we do not. Disabling Earning time in all the farming instances would be an improvement.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Tweeking the instance configurations is something they have done in the past.
For instance we used to have hypers enabled in FCC while China does not. China has free-PVP enabled in FB29 while we do not. Disabling Earning time in all the farming instances would be an improvement.

Yes China had to do it rather so i gather it was not something that was greatly agreed with at both ends. Tho we are so close to china than we where before. Earning time is not just in place to annoy people their are a lot of reasons it was put in. I feel at this point that its a suggestion that should go to the suggestion box. From their I can make sure its passed on.

Was kinda hoping this is something you would help with Asterelle. I dont fully understand in the different types of earning time how it works. I dono if you can pull the info from the files but i will do a few tests on each instance as well to check things out.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · October 2014

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

I think the fact that any instances cost earning time is redundant....its not like a person can bot in a dungeon. PWE really needs to fix this bs and make it so earning time is only taken from you when you bot in a non instance area.
Just my opinion.

if cube is concidered dungeon then, room 4 where all the tombstone poppers are is where the venos level their pets, and i would think you need exp for that o.o Unless that got fixed

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · October 2014

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

if cube is concidered dungeon then, room 4 where all the tombstone poppers are is where the venos level their pets, and i would think you need exp for that o.o Unless that got fixed

I don't think pets stop losing xp, just you. (I could be wrong though)

Aubree - Dreamweaver · October 2014

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

I think the fact that any instances cost earning time is redundant....its not like a person can bot in a dungeon. PWE really needs to fix this bs and make it so earning time is only taken from you when you bot in a non instance area.
Just my opinion.

The reason for earning time is not bots. It is because china law says all games must have a fatigue system. Now if you apply that to dungeons, TT etc the time you spend fighting a boss is minuscule so they make so even walking around cost you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gaming_in_China#Limits_on_playing_time

Government controls[edit]
Limits on playing time[edit]
In recent years, the Chinese government has shown increasing concern over what it perceives as problems with the addictions to and negative influences from video games. In an effort to combat addiction in online gaming for example, time restrictions have been implemented, which hamper the players capabilities in game, [clarification needed] creating incentive to take a break.[citation needed]

The Beijing Reformatory for Juvenile Delinquents claimed in 2007 that a third of its detainees were influenced by violent online games or erotic websites when committing crimes such as robbery and ****.[28] In a high-profile case from October 2004, 41-year-old Qiu Chengwei was sentenced to death for murdering 26-year-old Zhu Caoyuan over a dispute regarding the sale of a virtual weapon the two had jointly won in the game Legend of Mir 3.[29] Also, in September 2007, a Chinese man in Guangzhou died after playing Internet video games for three consecutive days in an Internet cafe.[30]

Azami - Dreamweaver · October 2014

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

if cube is concidered dungeon then, room 4 where all the tombstone poppers are is where the venos level their pets, and i would think you need exp for that o.o Unless that got fixed

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't think pets stop losing xp, just you. (I could be wrong though)

After exhaustion time, pets doesn't get any more exp.

Evryn - Morai · October 2014

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

I think the fact that any instances cost earning time is redundant....its not like a person can bot in a dungeon. PWE really needs to fix this bs and make it so earning time is only taken from you when you bot in a non instance area.
Just my opinion.

You'd be surprised how complex some bots are. Heck, there's even one around that flies around and automatically checks catshops, I presume to note prices and grab items from people who oops a low price on specific items... That or it just dumps coords and prices into a database for the controllers easy reference. I wouldn't be surprised if there is one who automatically farms TT via a set path by now (and just destroys anything hostile in it's path, including bosses).

Any infinitely repeatable instance and/or area where killing enemies directly brings you a reward should be under earning control imho. This includes Twilight Temple and Lunar Glade.
Daily instances, and complex instances that requires coordinated actions by multiple players, and instances that cannot be farmed should not be. This includes Phoenix Valley, Warsong City, Flowsilver Palace, Undercurrent Hall, Endless Universe and Advanced Endless Universe.

Fail_BM - Raging Tide · October 2014

What does happen if your earning time reach 0 and you go to an instance with normal earning time?

bloodedone87 · October 2014

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

What does happen if your earning time reach 0 and you go to an instance with normal earning time?

You get exp and drops. Dont know if the exp works for all the instances that are in normal area.didnt pay attention to see if I get exp when I was doing eu with 0 earning time. But I know for sure that in PV you can get exp even if you got 0 earning time left.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

What does happen if your earning time reach 0 and you go to an instance with normal earning time?

Good point think i should put that info into the above.

Thanks.

ykc · December 2015

How about Lycaeum instance?.

testxvi · December 2015

Oh, I actually never really took my time to understand the difference between the earning control rooms. This explains why I always getting spam messages in TT about my earning time is paused again, while I havent even hitted any mobs. It's simply because I'm moving my character, lol.

So yea, TT is a 3. Earning Controled Area (No Combat)
(I even went in to double check >.>)

edit: just realised this thread been necro'd by comment above

heerohex#3018 · December 2015

The info Is still current.

I stopped working on it mind as no one was interested.

it Can be closed.

Thanks.

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