Nation Wars: The Information

wowbots said:

NW times... This is unacceptable by me. My life interferes as it does any normal American. It takes a lot of sacrifice to make certain events on this game. As my faction does not TW, this was the 1 moment I had to remind me why I needed gear better than G15. We as a majority cannot make this battle. I've read about Devs being unable to change the time itself. There is nothing we can say about that. We don't care, we can't make these times without too much sacrifice. Learn to fix it or we will play an "American" timed game.

mintsummer said:

For everyone's interest, we removed the forced PK mode after Cross Server NW across all 4 servers. We also increased the total number of supplies as the reward of Cross Server Nation War -- yes, now you can earn more than old times if you are brave enough!
Thank you again for all those feedback!

enbysra said:

Actually, as far as the supply tokens rewards in NW now, they could legitimately remain as is.

Just because everyone (myself included) got used to the amount of supply tokens we were getting until recently, does not mean that said amount of rewards were even good for the in game economy or the game overall.

Consider Raptures and Uncannies, and the prices they used to be back when NW did not even exist, back when we had to grind Nirvana.

Raptures and Uncannies, given the current amount of supply token rewards, will still not return to being as high as those prices.

If NW supply token rewards remain as they are currently, there is a possibility that Nirvana will actually be revived as content to run yet again.

So honestly you can cry about the rewards like spoiled children, but the real issue as far as I can see is :

1. TW-NW overlapping (even though I am not yet seriously TWing atm)

2. NW Times overall (personally, the Friday NW at 2pm EST I would never be able to even attempt to attend, as I am not calling out of work for it... which by the way, would also effect the majority at work or in school at that time).

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I'll also add...

To schedule properly, cross server events need to actually be figured out first, for the best times for the majority of all players given the different time zones...

THEN each server's events can be more easily adjusted per server, to fit each server's needs.

NOT the backasswards "strategy" being thrown around by posters.

dagoddominator said:

it was previously already disclosed that the server hosting it is part of the EU formatted server, i'm pretty sure it is NOT an easy matter to change the timezone settings. it was also stated the event time is hard coded and hence not really changeable (without a lot of effort depending on implementation).

i did notice the short timing on that timeslot, but i dont think they had a choice in the matter with the current coding.

zionwarrior said:

WARNING WALL OF TEXT

1. A few things. First, I figure Domino you are more the poster boy and meant to "placate" and pacify us like pwe wants. Not to offend you but that will only bring flaming and such even if it is your given orders. Being real and saying it like it is and explaining that you know it was not entirely done as the majority wanted it let alone not replying back in WILL also garner a lot of negitive feedback too.
   
2. Another thing, I suggest you let the Dev's an your higher ups know we would like our nation wars set back to the times it was and let us have our normal territory wars times back. Yes I know it was done to an extent for "euro" players however NOT everybody is euro and a LOT do not get to do nation war who are west coast or east coast at those times and you are basically pissing on us without the dignity to try an call it rain. Also claiming that is what we wanted. I mean really, we have asked for it reverted and for the nation wars token cap to be properly increased since we get jack all tokens for a HARD 2 hour fight not to mention the charm cost and such too. Another thing you should be making ONE of the nation wars a week cross server nation war and one nation war regular one server nation war since I am FAIRLY sure NOT everybody WANTS cross server nation war twice a week. Also IF you are GOING to keep our token rate low then turn one nation war like I said back to old nation wars and keep one as cross server. It will help to an extent with not having a MASSIVE amount of tokens on the server and make things worth a bit more but it will also help with the economy too and there will not be a glut of things but also not such a low amount that nobody sells their tokens or no items for sale. I know you are always trying to find ways to remove economy's and trade markets and ways to make coin for players from other players but enough is enough.
   
3. A LOT of the west and east coast players LOOK FORWARD to events on Sunday and Friday night its what we DO as gamers WE WANT NATION WAR as our Friday an Sunday evening events its what WE do you expect us to be on a video game in either the early morning or afternoon when on weekend we have things we have to be doing such as getting ready for the next week I mean really? We want to have fun Nation war in the evening to wind down the day its FUN what reason do we HAVE to be on at night on the WEEKEND? If you WANT to have Cross Server Nation War let us KEEP ONE as regular Nation War and see how much people LIKE them. You do NOT need to change BOTH Nation War times and make BOTH Cross Server Nation Wars MOST people DO NOT like it. The increase in size is somewhat nice but the pain in the **** time frame, **** over of Territory Wars. the Charm cost, Potion cost, Apoth use needed, and massive and I DO mean MASSIVE resource drain to basely get ANYTHING for the effort let alone not even being able to use it to fund your further gameplay to keep DOING it makes it NOT worth doing.
   
4. You took away Mirages and kept them as rewards for multiple things but give them no value because of that, you took away armor value (which wasn't much in the first place but I mean really it was SOMETHING), you took away pot NPC price which made botting with the auto-culti even somewhat a reason to do and helped us keep our in game coin going, you removed all coin from the lower dungeon FBs (recently with the last major patch) which is pretty screwed up since higher levels go in to help lower levels but honestly we would like what little coin we can pick up since not ALL of us are cash shoppers and want something to help with repair cost, you took away ALL DQ NPC prices which was another nail in using the auto cultivation thing you GAVE us to use and then even put a TIMER on earning time to prevent mass use of it and such(there is almost no point to even have the auto culti system in place in game anymore since almost nobody uses it unless it's like an archer botting with auto culti in morai 1 hitting monsters and not even picking up its coin in the base quest area or in land of buried bones and such at the base quest areas, you even removed dragon quest quests which were usable to get rare items and made it somewhat fun to do dragon quest item hunting for rare molds and mounts and things so you did NOT have to pay for them. Its not that you CAN'T get fixes made, you have shown this much because of the massive outcry there was a PATCH almost instant about it. This has happened before as well, with other things in game. Such as when venomancer hood was nerfed the FIRST time due to mass outcry, then when FC/FF as it is sometimes called was FIRST reverted to no hypers the massive outcry had it changed back within a week. People stop complaining and sending in tickets to get it dealt with and you try to **** them over again and again till they complain again.
   
5. I mean really with all these removals do you REALLY think your player base likes it let alone wants to keep playing much longer? I started YEARS ago on China's subscription and LOVED it till they kicked people who didn't live in china so I moved to the Malaysian servers oracle and I don't remember the one before that after oracle I moved to Heavens Tear in 08, then Archo in 10, there have been good and bad changes but as of late you have been making some VERY bad changes to your company and game.
   

(edited to fix my join archo date typoed it)

bloodedone87 said:

zionwarrior said:

WARNING WALL OF TEXT

1. A few things. First, I figure Domino you are more the poster boy and meant to "placate" and pacify us like pwe wants. Not to offend you but that will only bring flaming and such even if it is your given orders. Being real and saying it like it is and explaining that you know it was not entirely done as the majority wanted it let alone not replying back in WILL also garner a lot of negitive feedback too.
   
2. Another thing, I suggest you let the Dev's an your higher ups know we would like our nation wars set back to the times it was and let us have our normal territory wars times back. Yes I know it was done to an extent for "euro" players however NOT everybody is euro and a LOT do not get to do nation war who are west coast or east coast at those times and you are basically pissing on us without the dignity to try an call it rain. Also claiming that is what we wanted. I mean really, we have asked for it reverted and for the nation wars token cap to be properly increased since we get jack all tokens for a HARD 2 hour fight not to mention the charm cost and such too. Another thing you should be making ONE of the nation wars a week cross server nation war and one nation war regular one server nation war since I am FAIRLY sure NOT everybody WANTS cross server nation war twice a week. Also IF you are GOING to keep our token rate low then turn one nation war like I said back to old nation wars and keep one as cross server. It will help to an extent with not having a MASSIVE amount of tokens on the server and make things worth a bit more but it will also help with the economy too and there will not be a glut of things but also not such a low amount that nobody sells their tokens or no items for sale. I know you are always trying to find ways to remove economy's and trade markets and ways to make coin for players from other players but enough is enough.
   
3. A LOT of the west and east coast players LOOK FORWARD to events on Sunday and Friday night its what we DO as gamers WE WANT NATION WAR as our Friday an Sunday evening events its what WE do you expect us to be on a video game in either the early morning or afternoon when on weekend we have things we have to be doing such as getting ready for the next week I mean really? We want to have fun Nation war in the evening to wind down the day its FUN what reason do we HAVE to be on at night on the WEEKEND? If you WANT to have Cross Server Nation War let us KEEP ONE as regular Nation War and see how much people LIKE them. You do NOT need to change BOTH Nation War times and make BOTH Cross Server Nation Wars MOST people DO NOT like it. The increase in size is somewhat nice but the pain in the **** time frame, **** over of Territory Wars. the Charm cost, Potion cost, Apoth use needed, and massive and I DO mean MASSIVE resource drain to basely get ANYTHING for the effort let alone not even being able to use it to fund your further gameplay to keep DOING it makes it NOT worth doing.
   
4. You took away Mirages and kept them as rewards for multiple things but give them no value because of that, you took away armor value (which wasn't much in the first place but I mean really it was SOMETHING), you took away pot NPC price which made botting with the auto-culti even somewhat a reason to do and helped us keep our in game coin going, you removed all coin from the lower dungeon FBs (recently with the last major patch) which is pretty screwed up since higher levels go in to help lower levels but honestly we would like what little coin we can pick up since not ALL of us are cash shoppers and want something to help with repair cost, you took away ALL DQ NPC prices which was another nail in using the auto cultivation thing you GAVE us to use and then even put a TIMER on earning time to prevent mass use of it and such(there is almost no point to even have the auto culti system in place in game anymore since almost nobody uses it unless it's like an archer botting with auto culti in morai 1 hitting monsters and not even picking up its coin in the base quest area or in land of buried bones and such at the base quest areas, you even removed dragon quest quests which were usable to get rare items and made it somewhat fun to do dragon quest item hunting for rare molds and mounts and things so you did NOT have to pay for them. Its not that you CAN'T get fixes made, you have shown this much because of the massive outcry there was a PATCH almost instant about it. This has happened before as well, with other things in game. Such as when venomancer hood was nerfed the FIRST time due to mass outcry, then when FC/FF as it is sometimes called was FIRST reverted to no hypers the massive outcry had it changed back within a week. People stop complaining and sending in tickets to get it dealt with and you try to **** them over again and again till they complain again.
   
5. I mean really with all these removals do you REALLY think your player base likes it let alone wants to keep playing much longer? I started YEARS ago on China's subscription and LOVED it till they kicked people who didn't live in china so I moved to the Malaysian servers oracle and I don't remember the one before that after oracle I moved to Heavens Tear in 08, then Archo in 10, there have been good and bad changes but as of late you have been making some VERY bad changes to your company and game.
   

(edited to fix my join archo date typoed it)

Before writing an wall of text how about you read the other comments on this thread? Some of them belongs to GMs were they said the number of tokens has been increased and no more force pk when you exit NW.
Also it has been mentioned on other threads the mirages, pots, items, dq items prices have been reduced to 0 due to the insane amount of botters in China.
Auto cultivation system was nice and helpfull but people abused that like they abused everything. They were loging army of alts to bott making hundred of milions of coins each week, ruining the economy, making the prices going higher.
The earning time was introduced in China to stop players playing to much. People have died there cause they were spending to much in time of the computer playing video games. In my opinion this earning time didnt change that much cause players dont have just 1 characters they play in a game. They have 2 or more. So when they will get bored playing 1 character they will move to the others. Also people dont play just 1 game.
PWE is just a publisher. PWCN is the creator and the one that takes all decision to all the changes that happend and will happen in PWI.

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Why, when we finish the war we get the white name (PK) ? we dont need that

and why we cant trade !! in NW.. what about token somtime i get 30 or 0 old time i get 300+

i hop u can Fix it

and

plz dont Change the time for the server Europe

And why for God sake dont you read the other comments on this thread were GM said they fixed that and removed forced pk and also increased the number of tokens starting with this saturday NW?

valdisman said:

Thanks for the fast fix on the token amount.

solamnie said:

Alot of players saying it's horrible to get up at 8AM for NW, imagine how we EU players felt, when we had o get up between 4 and 6AM, or in my case 5 till 7AM. And the amount of european players is only rising as far as I can tell.

jadasia wrote: »

blabla nonsence we wrote like 8888 times already