Territory Wars... How was it last week?
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I experienced a lot of lag against Vicious last week during TW. I did have everything turned down best performance also used simple model with all effects off. I can admit that sometimes too during TW that this doesn't happen every time.The only GOP0
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I've noticed considerable lag due to the new classes skills ever since the EG upgrade. All the new classes get these shiny skill animations. I remember being out in west arch pking, and 2 seekers came out and my FPS dropped by like 10 immediately. Its even worse in TW when stormbringers and duskblades are involved now. Those vortexes are lag traps, besides there intended effects, I think that's what people use them for is to try lag/dc the opposition. I just upgraded to a gaming desktop so I will see how TWs go this week vs last week with my laptop.0
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Update:
Our NetOps Team has already made some backend changes based on your feedback. This weekend, pay close attention to the FPS and Latency you experience then reply to this thread if you have noticed any difference.
Really appreciate your help on this you guys.
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@thenamesdomino could you tell us what did they technically do on their backend please?0
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i dont expect a specific answer on that, even though i am very interested in how these things work and are optimized.
I think it would be nice if we kept this thread going in conjunction with the netops teams keeping track of performance during tw. Again not keeping my hopes up but at least it would be nice for them to show effort in keeping TW playable.0 -
nothing changed,
TW was pure ****
start 100 fps,
after 20 mins, 20 FPS
after 45 mins, 10 FPS
after 1 hour, 3 FPS
relog with all effects on, 100 FPS back
1,20 hours 10 FPS
1,45 hours 5 FPS
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no difference at all.
FPS in base drop back till your client crashes....0 -
@thenamesdomino
When it comes to a full 80vs80 Tw, i think there won't be any difference at all for some people.
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na man never had problems in 80v80 TWs even with older systems...
it just became recently unplayable0 -
In-game ping averaged from 150-600, closer to 600 at the end. I know part of the ping at the end is my local network.
FPS before entering TW was 50.
Dropped to 33 right before I entered at 20:09.
Just inside, FPS was 40, and the most it dropped was to 37 during the battle.
Was about 30 vs 60 in our base.
Immediately after exiting, FPS was 22.
Moments later it was back up at 57.
Total RAM used by the client was about 960MB throughout with medium graphic settings.
Edit: Went and entered Reflection and it dropped to 22 again. Really odd for it to be in the 50's in West Arch, but lower in a less populated area. There's definitely some issue with the client.
Also, Speccy... And I ran the client from a RAM Disk. Didn't have time to fully optimize system before starting though, so it's basically set up how I would play normally with the exception of using the RAM Disk.0 -
Okay whatever you changed this week was wrong. Super slow-mo this week. Click on people and won't even load their graphics. Walk forward and jumping 5 feet at a time. Go back to the way you had it last week.0
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No lag in TW, but its hard to tell, the TW only lasted 10 minutes0
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That doesn't sound like an issue on their end.Okay whatever you changed this week was wrong. Super slow-mo this week. Click on people and won't even load their graphics. Walk forward and jumping 5 feet at a time. Go back to the way you had it last week.0 -
entered with 80 fps and 1.4 gb client size
after one hour it went to 2.5 gb and 7 fps.
no ping issues tho..
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domino saying they fixed on their end was clearly a placebo
i've really no idea what they changed in past 2-3 months to render TWs from decent to this unplayable
and it's 3 years i am doing 80v80 TWs, even with older systems never had problems, even recording them in full HD or streaming them live on twitch.tv
now with an up to date system and still the same 3 years old pwi graphics,
it's impossible to have a nice game experience inside territory wars figure recording\streaming them.
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Client pretty much got progressively laggier after the one hour mark. I was not recording though.0
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started okay this saturday but once it was a battle at the crystal, clipped down to unplayable. that SB vortex on top of the aoe's on the ppl caught in it seemed to be where my client froze the most.0
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Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.0
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And i believe Domino will be looking into this case?sylenthunder said:Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.
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Truly, it's something the developers were supposed to be working on for almost two years now. Instead we have more Primal and new classes that exacerbate the issue.xskysoldier wrote: »Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.
And i believe Domino will be looking into this case?0 -
Man the developers are really slacking huh? Now that the Nightshades have their Primal stuff..we should be done with Primal in general ijs.0
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WTB proper enforcement of TW rules...I could care less about the lag. It wasn't too bad this last week for me but in the past I have had serious lag issues....but the real issue is the amount of rulebreaking that factions commit. Alt faction bidding, being officers of TW factions while having alts in other TW factions, terrain abuse glitches. Course...submitting tickets about ANYTHING is as effective as sticking your hand in a bees nest.
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I thought it had something to do with the outdated engine not being able to play well with the modern architecture of graphics cards these days.sylenthunder said:Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.
Maybe I'm wrong.0 -
kaiserzoltar wrote: »Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.
I thought it had something to do with the outdated engine not being able to play well with the modern architecture of graphics cards these days.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Well that's part of it. It doesn't use the graphics card because of the severely outdated game engine. It is limited to merely one CPU core also. It cannot use multiple cores, even if you try forcing it.0 -
sylenthunder said:kaiserzoltar wrote: »Yeah, it's definitely looking like the issues are not with network latency, but rather with the aging client being unable to keep up with displaying all the new skills and graphics.
I thought it had something to do with the outdated engine not being able to play well with the modern architecture of graphics cards these days.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Well that's part of it. It doesn't use the graphics card because of the severely outdated game engine. It is limited to merely one CPU core also. It cannot use multiple cores, even if you try forcing it.
I would love to see this fixed...then the game would play a bajillion times better for MANY people.0 -
What ever happened to the angelica engine? If memory serves, wasn't that mentioned in some news posts about a year ago or so? Can we put the super glue and duct-tape away and just upgrade already? Is there some hold-up that we're not aware of?Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.0
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What ever happened to the angelica engine? If memory serves, wasn't that mentioned in some news posts about a year ago or so? Can we put the super glue and duct-tape away and just upgrade already? Is there some hold-up that we're not aware of?
Two years ago, when they stated that they had re-hired the original developers from Archosaur Group. It was stated that that was going to be the first thing they worked on, and it was all a lie. I blame management at Wanmei.0 -
sylenthunder said:
Two years ago, when they stated that they had re-hired the original developers from Archosaur Group. It was stated that that was going to be the first thing they worked on, and it was all a lie. I blame management at Wanmei.
Is there a possibility that this still can happen if Wanmei can start thinking with their heads?
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dem priorities... lolsylenthunder said:Two years ago, when they stated that they had re-hired the original developers from Archosaur Group. It was stated that that was going to be the first thing they worked on, and it was all a lie. I blame management at Wanmei.
What's the point of expansions if the client can't handle them. I would rather if PWE bugged (perhaps begged) them to work on this rather than reworking expansions to fit our version.
Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.0 -
Is it possible for PWE to just buy out Wanmei (or at least the game) and hire a bunch of competent devs and non-scumbag management to push things out properly?0
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