New BH

soleida
soleida Posts: 113 Arc User
Dear PWI,

How can I do the BH100 in FSP if I'm not reawakend yet but still Lvl 100?

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  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    Pretty sure you can't.

    Might be able to complete it with AP though if it shows in the lineup.​​
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  • soleida
    soleida Posts: 113 Arc User
    Are you kidding me? ppl have to save it for days in the hope it get possible to do with Ap! You only get 30 free form PWI.
  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    Yeah, it pretty much sucks. But at least it's only one BH. It's not like you don't have enough other dailies anyhow. monkey-1.gif​​
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  • razzzza
    razzzza Posts: 456 Arc User
    Might be able to complete it with AP though if it shows in the lineup.

    but only if your lucky enough to have morai quests as quests which give points. other than that you pretty much need to be rb.​​
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  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    Or BQ, yeah. It's not news that the upper management both in China and PWI want to you super level and RB ASAP though. The game is pretty much only about high level content now.​​
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  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User

    Yeah, it pretty much sucks. But at least it's only one BH. It's not like you don't have enough other dailies anyhow. monkey-1.gif​​

    Non reborn player can get AP only from Morai quests and Base Quests. If you make these quest to collect AP when BH FSP is on, then should be no problem.
  • razzzza
    razzzza Posts: 456 Arc User
    BQ only gives 20 points max and for BH1 you need 30 so you NEED morai quests as + quests or it wont happen.

    Also i dont mind it at all because rb is easy and level your toon up again is so fast with the multiplier so it should not be an issue even for casuals.​​
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  • zigheart
    zigheart Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    or you could just rebirth >.> it takes maybe a week tops to hit 100 again. especially with it now possible to reset PV with lucky coins. if your non-rebirth your missing about 2/3's the game anyway.

    LOL just logged in and found something else, you can now BUY active points xD trade lucky coins for 10 AP each at wang tsai. so don't think you will have issues.
  • zentfamily
    zentfamily Posts: 234 Arc User
    As if leveling back to 100 was that hard nowadays.

    Plus, things get more interesting after reawakening. :)
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  • gekkelotje
    gekkelotje Posts: 27 Arc User
    Sure but if you play like 2 hours a day .....next year or so? Beside 2nd day FSP so much for doing it with ActivePoints! :(
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  • gekkelotje
    gekkelotje Posts: 27 Arc User
    Yeah I got mine 3rd BH FSP! great job pwi noobs!
  • johndoe#4146
    johndoe#4146 Posts: 98 Arc User
    calling pwi noobs when you havnt RB'd is a bit backward isnt it? at this point the only people who arent RB'd should be pill baby alts ppl made just for bh100s with npc gear and new toons that have just hit 100 very recently. Why else would someone not RB their toon since over 70% of the game is now RB content? Maybe its time to actually work for those bh100 rewards?

    (i'd actually facepalm that last comment i made seeing as even now there are people who afk in bhs waiting for the rest of the sqd to do all the work and clear to boss/even kill boss before they do anything to help)

    Yeah it sucks they made mushi a bh boss but if you cant keep up with the game then dont expect to do "end game" content?​​
  • gekkelotje
    gekkelotje Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Get off your high horses here! I made a new char just started to play. While I still work on his gear (SB) and try to get his weapon in WS. Half the stuff was not even in the game when the class got out! How you think ppl get their gear these days if half the server wc on "show Weapon/gear" No noobs .....getting you gear by simple buying it dont work well if you dont get much coins while you grind!!! Dont forget PWI nerve much in the game to stop ppl form Autogrinding. No you speak easy here in mine eye's. And for the low gear ppl who been made to do only bh's I get that but do I need to suffer for it?
    Beside that I can get I keep that BH for active points , buttttt FSP 3 x in a role and we all know you need BHI most off the times to get active points.
  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    gekkelotje wrote: »
    Yeah I got mine 3rd BH FSP! great job pwi noobs!
    Just because I always find this funny.....

    PWI Noobs = You, the player.
    PWE Noobs = The Publisher of PWI in America.
    Wanmei Noobs = The actual creators of the game, where management determines what the development team does to the game.

    Now who's the noob?
    Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

    This title is over 10 years old now. Of course content caters to the high-levels. It's one daily, get over it, and get RB'ed. If you play merely 2 hours a day, you can hit 100 again in like 2 weeks. Less if you take advantage of special items in game and do it smart. Way less if you have lots of coin to spend on it.​​
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  • sensualsoul
    sensualsoul Posts: 282 Arc User
    I have a toon, worked my butt of to get to lvl 100 so I CAN do the bh 100, she need coin to up her gear so she CAN get in to squad like FSD. Now she's down one bh she could make money because PW is stupid and doesn't think things through. BH 100 should be able to be done by ANY lvl 100 toon, or they need to make new RB BH and Non-RB BHs for those that are RB and those that are not. SO if you are not RB you would NOT get BH FSD you would get something else. Of course this would mean someone in PW would have to THINK. Not sure if they can manage it. lol
  • razzzza
    razzzza Posts: 456 Arc User
    I have a toon, worked my butt of to get to lvl 100 so I CAN do the bh 100, she need coin to up her gear so she CAN get in to squad like FSD. Now she's down one bh she could make money because PW is stupid and doesn't think things through. BH 100 should be able to be done by ANY lvl 100 toon, or they need to make new RB BH and Non-RB BHs for those that are RB and those that are not. SO if you are not RB you would NOT get BH FSD you would get something else. Of course this would mean someone in PW would have to THINK. Not sure if they can manage it. lol

    Or, you know, think about how i could do a certain task a NPC is giving me. when you cant do it, what should you do? do everything there is to do it or QQ on the forums?
    Well.

    RB is nothing new and FSP is not hard to do even for low geared people (getting into a squad with a g13 nirvana weapon is a different story but should not be too hard) and only requires you to do stuff to not die (like running out of blue glowing circles).
    You are afraid to lvup to 100 again? are you even playing the game man? some people..

    Also its ONE BH out of what.. 5?( EU,AEU,Warsong...FSP) ok its 4. you still can do the other 3 and be happy no? its like qq over BH aeu cuz you have to do morai storyquests. jesus.​​
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  • gekkelotje
    gekkelotje Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Really wont be a problem ....if:

    PPL are not so selfish to ask for only the best gear ppl in the game( wc : LFM JFSP link gear/weapon.....Need Sin and BM RRR9 pm me..... )
    If PWI staff got it right this update and we dont get that BH for the 3 time in a role
    For FSP you need atlease 6-7 K of hp , to bad we still work on our gear if we made level 100 for the first time.
    Gettting RA is not hard to do but not all players spent 16/24 on a game to be level again to 100.
    Why call it BH100 if it make a clear different between RA and not RA.
    Even on lower level most BH are not done any more by squads....because the lack of new players in the first play.
    Now most off you are RA and have R9 or G16 +10 so why not make a new char keep it a 100 and get that bh done by active points, because I have the idea you looking at this form the wrong angle. Oh and mine advice dont use any coin or resource form you main.
  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    gekkelotje wrote: »
    Really wont be a problem ....if:

    PPL are not so selfish to ask for only the best gear ppl in the game( wc : LFM JFSP link gear/weapon.....Need Sin and BM RRR9 pm me..... )
    If PWI staff got it right this update and we dont get that BH for the 3 time in a role
    For FSP you need atlease 6-7 K of hp , to bad we still work on our gear if we made level 100 for the first time.
    Gettting RA is not hard to do but not all players spent 16/24 on a game to be level again to 100.
    Why call it BH100 if it make a clear different between RA and not RA.
    Even on lower level most BH are not done any more by squads....because the lack of new players in the first play.
    Now most off you are RA and have R9 or G16 +10 so why not make a new char keep it a 100 and get that bh done by active points, because I have the idea you looking at this form the wrong angle. Oh and mine advice dont use any coin or resource form you main.

    You don't need to play PWI all day to be able to level up after Reawakening. The 4x EXP gain is good. Even if you play an hour or two per day, it should take perhaps two weeks at best or less if you prepare for it.

    I suggest saving Profundity Scrolls from codes/promos. We are getting some from the current log-in event. You can also save up the Brainpower Orbs from BHs you do, the EXP Orbs from EU and some influence in Morai for EXP pills. They help a lot in leveling.

    You should be able to solo low level Phoenix Valleys. Even if your gear isn't that great, it should still be much better than what gear is available in the 30s, 40s etc. that PV is available. The Reawakening quest-chain gives pretty decent EXP too, so I suggest completing it. I think there are a few other daily quests for lower levels that give nice EXP, I remember doing them when I Reawakened my Duskblade some months ago. Auto-cultivation is also a good way to grind EXP while away or doing other things, but it kinda depends on your class. Some classes need HP or MP charms I think, but others can grind without them. Of course there are also the low level BHs. Low level ones should be easily solo-able if you can't find parties. I mean back in 2010 I could tank BH39 with the crappy level 60 gear my Cleric had, so whatever gear you have at level 100 should be OP for it, not to mention that you probably have some War Avatar cards from promos/events.

    On another note, if you can't get in squads, it's better to form them yourself. Are you a member of an active faction? Factions are usually pretty good about taking members for runs regardless of their gear. FSP can be done in TT90 gear too, as long as you are careful and have a decent tank and healer. I've taken my 5k HP Psychic in there which has a mix of TT90 and Morai lvl100 gear (from EU). Really, it's a crappy toon by any standards, but I was alright as long as I was careful. Maybe I died a couple of times, but many people die in FSP anyway. monkey-47.gif

    Cube also gives decent EXP, especially with 4x on. I know Cube is annoying (truly, I hate it) but with a little patience is do-able. A few years ago when leveling my Psychic I used to do Cube everyday for the EXP, I think I started doing it at level... 80? I don't quite recall. She had just a mix of TT80, mold level 70 and NPC gear. Once again, I assume you have better gear than that currently though.


    As far as BH rotation is concerned, there is nothing to be done there. It's a system that randomly picks one BH and we can go with having the same BH for a whole week. My server has had lots of BH EU recently. BH rotation has always worked like this and has nothing to do with the update.

    I'm not a fan of Reawakening myself, but the Primal World and Reawakening are such a big part of the game now that whoever doesn't Reawaken misses out on many, many things. Not to mention that future updates indicate they will still focus on the content past Reawakening; the upcoming new class skills in China appear to be new Primal skills. Also the free Spirit from the Arcane Sky levels should make you a little stronger in PvE, too! Even if Spirit is not as effective, it was definitely a notice-able difference when I began having more and more Spirit.
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  • cynderangel
    cynderangel Posts: 193 Arc User
    Don't look for JFSP squads. DFSP is easier, and last I checked (a few weeks ago) most Etherblade squads didn't ask for weapon links for that. I can't speak for other servers.
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  • razzzza
    razzzza Posts: 456 Arc User
    Don't look for JFSP squads. DFSP is easier, and last I checked (a few weeks ago) most Etherblade squads didn't ask for weapon links for that. I can't speak for other servers.

    On dawnglory its very rare to see people demand you to link weapon for dfsp usually its just "pm class" so you can manage atleast that and not have 10 sins in there if you know what i mean :)

    The only issue i have in fsp is when people go around and think APS is the easy way out in there but when they enter my squad i usually give the squad a warning that i kick people who brainafk APS the bosses. in 80% of the squads everyone uses skills but some people think throwing subsea here and there counts as "using skills".

    Its hilarious seeing them argue with you that they have g13 daggers and deal more dmg apsing then using skills mouse-2.gif​​
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  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    zigheart said:

    or you could just rebirth >.> it takes maybe a week tops to hit 100 again. especially with it now possible to reset PV with lucky coins. if your non-rebirth your missing about 2/3's the game anyway.

    LOL just logged in and found something else, you can now BUY active points xD trade lucky coins for 10 AP each at wang tsai. so don't think you will have issues.

    This. Stop whining and rebirth. Oh you don't want to do that with your 20+ alts? that's too bad. I think the devs should make it far more difficult for people to use alts for farming and support in the game. I quit doing regular FS runs because the last one had 4 people killing bosses while the 6 alts just stood there. Same with alts in NW. 10 v 12 battles are not fun with 4 people fighting 10 people and 9 alts just standing there.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    Oh for God sake its just a BH. Just 1,2 mil exp you may lose. But it will remain other ways of getting exp.
    If you dont want to RB( althought I dont know why you wouldnt want that) just dont take the bh from Head Hunter. There are days I dont do BH100 and I didnt lose anything.
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  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    jadasia said:

    zigheart said:

    or you could just rebirth >.> it takes maybe a week tops to hit 100 again. especially with it now possible to reset PV with lucky coins. if your non-rebirth your missing about 2/3's the game anyway.

    LOL just logged in and found something else, you can now BUY active points xD trade lucky coins for 10 AP each at wang tsai. so don't think you will have issues.

    This. Stop whining and rebirth. Oh you don't want to do that with your 20+ alts? that's too bad. I think the devs should make it far more difficult for people to use alts for farming and support in the game. I quit doing regular FS runs because the last one had 4 people killing bosses while the 6 alts just stood there. Same with alts in NW. 10 v 12 battles are not fun with 4 people fighting 10 people and 9 alts just standing there.
    I hate alts brought in instances. But most of all I hate people that dont do nothing. I been in BH AEU last weak and there was 1 sin with 5k hp that was doing nothing but was active in squad chat. When I asked him why he doesnt attack the last boss he attacked and died and tells me '' thats why. I take aggro and I die'' . I simply told him that he cant survive few hits from the boss there than he shouldnt come in AEU. And he told me I am rude.
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  • cynderangel
    cynderangel Posts: 193 Arc User
    Or if he's really doing high enough damage to steal aggro, maybe control his damage a bit to let the tank tank. Seems unlikely though. I still meet people who think they have aggro when an aoe hits them.
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  • kittyempressa
    kittyempressa Posts: 268 Arc User
    I still meet people who think they have aggro when an aoe hits them.

    Now that's hilarious. We can now see what ish targeting what so it should be pretty obvious who has aggro and when if looking at what boss ish targeting. But guess even that's too hard for those people to comprehend...​​
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