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  • kittyempressa
    kittyempressa Posts: 268 Arc User
    aphrodita wrote: »
    Dawnglory gonna win every single NW due to the terrible choice of time. gg.

    Still not that easy win, for naow the EU-players on US-server are more likely to participate. And there's lots of them.
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  • jojje
    jojje Posts: 6 Arc User
    Idk what time zone you go after but NW has always been 5:20am for me.




    *Nation Wars are now cross-server. Each server will be assigned a different nation (at random), and battles will occur on Friday and Sunday at 20:10 CET. - So thats 3am-4am for most the EU players, so it will be 3 nations in the NW not 4 lol. Especially Sundays. Not QQ-ing as i am not from there just stating the facts lol.


    CET=Central European Time. That's Dawnglory's server time, Kitty assumes?







    So it will be amuricans that will be gimped here, especially on fridays as americans will be mainly working at NW-time. But that's 21:10 for Kitty so Kitty kinda lieks dat.
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  • shivydrasic
    shivydrasic Posts: 21 Arc User
    The NW times will mainly effect USA players, because like me most of the population works around that time, , before I could make it to Sunday NW's but now I cant not even make it to either of them, and that will be the case for many USA players as well.

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  • sarrafeline
    sarrafeline Posts: 152 Arc User
    So, my takeaway from this thread is this:

    1) Friday NW is going to be the EU server vs nobody
    2) TW is being ruined 'because of a feature that won't be available for at least 1 more year, maybe 2".
    3) More new features are being 'Added' to the game, while existing problems and bugs, some dating back to 2007, are still not being addressed.

    So, in conclusion, this is just another typical expansion, one step forward, one step back.

    I think that a lot of people will come back, try this out, say 'meh', and go back to doing whatever it was they were doing instead of playing PWI. I understand the corss server NW, PWE wants more than 400 people on the map at once, but... By putting NW at a stupid time for West Coast players... Well, let's say I was farming NW for an Emperor tome upgrade, but now I'm going to start spending my supply tokens (and time) on other things, if I bother doing NW at all.
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,795 Community Moderator
    So...

    Where is our CM?
  • sheepclouds
    sheepclouds Posts: 81 Perfect World Employee
    Hi everyone! Domino is out of the office this week, he had an emergency to take care of, but he should be back next week.

    Thank you for all the feedback about the Nation Wars time! :) We ran through sooo many time scenarios trying to find a perfect time for every server. We are aware the current time is less than ideal, and the feedback is very helpful for us.

    Another time we considered was to have it on Saturday and Sunday morning in the US.

    Due to the way Nation Wars is set up, it must happen at 8pm CET, because the server it is hosted on is set to CET time. That means we can change the date that it happens, but not the time.

    We set it to Friday and Sunday for US because we planned on doing Cross Server Territory wars (Battle for Treasure Island) on Saturday. We can change both the date and time of that event, though! :) We also have Territory Wars to fit in there somewhere.

    Any additional feedback you have on what days we should hold Nation Wars would be very helpful. We might not be able to find dates that will work for every player, but we can hopefully we can make it where it isn't hard for a whole region.

    Thanks! :)
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  • chary
    chary Posts: 850 Arc User
    I guess if you're forced to hold it at 8pm CET, there's nothing to be done. Could you explain though why, for instance, you couldn't do it at 8pm EST Friday and 8pm CET Sunday to try and strike a better balance?​​
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,795 Community Moderator
    Hi everyone! Domino is out of the office this week, he had an emergency to take care of, but he should be back next week.

    Thank you for all the feedback about the Nation Wars time! :) We ran through sooo many time scenarios trying to find a perfect time for every server. We are aware the current time is less than ideal, and the feedback is very helpful for us.

    Another time we considered was to have it on Saturday and Sunday morning in the US.

    Due to the way Nation Wars is set up, it must happen at 8pm CET, because the server it is hosted on is set to CET time. That means we can change the date that it happens, but not the time.

    We set it to Friday and Sunday for US because we planned on doing Cross Server Territory wars (Battle for Treasure Island) on Saturday. We can change both the date and time of that event, though! :) We also have Territory Wars to fit in there somewhere.

    Any additional feedback you have on what days we should hold Nation Wars would be very helpful. We might not be able to find dates that will work for every player, but we can hopefully we can make it where it isn't hard for a whole region.

    Thanks! :)

    Ok Good to know Hope all works out for him.

    One thing that lets this game down for me is the "International" part. So many limitations to this with regards to time. Please could this be fed back to the Devs as PWI does span a lot of Time Zones.

    Thanks again for the Update and +1 for at least giving us the info on why the decision was taken to do the times when we have them.

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  • sheepclouds
    sheepclouds Posts: 81 Perfect World Employee
    chary said:

    I guess if you're forced to hold it at 8pm CET, there's nothing to be done. Could you explain though why, for instance, you couldn't do it at 8pm EST Friday and 8pm CET Sunday to try and strike a better balance?​​

    Having the event happen twice on both days or different times on Friday/Sunday was the first solution we offered up to the developers but they said that the event was created in such a way that the time can never be modified. It can only happen at the 8pm of the server it is on. :/
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  • sheepclouds
    sheepclouds Posts: 81 Perfect World Employee
    edited November 2015
    heero200 said:




    Ok Good to know Hope all works out for him.



    One thing that lets this game down for me is the "International" part. So many limitations to this with regards to time. Please could this be fed back to the Devs as PWI does span a lot of Time Zones.



    Thanks again for the Update and +1 for at least giving us the info on why the decision was taken to do the times when we have them.



    H.​​

    Yeah, poor Australian players, I always feel bad for them when we are deciding time-based things :/
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  • mortiscorvus
    mortiscorvus Posts: 39 Arc User
    Ok so they have talked about the NW what about fixing HP Charms ? MP works fine but HP wont do anything.
  • chary
    chary Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    HP charm doesn't work in Tower.

    Edit- To clarify, it's intended that HP charm doesn't work there.​​
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User

    chary said:

    I guess if you're forced to hold it at 8pm CET, there's nothing to be done. Could you explain though why, for instance, you couldn't do it at 8pm EST Friday and 8pm CET Sunday to try and strike a better balance?​​

    Having the event happen twice on both days or different times on Friday/Sunday was the first solution we offered up to the developers but they said that the event was created in such a way that the time can never be modified. It can only happen at the 8pm of the server it is on. :/
    This is not going to offer any relief for any of the people who play on the 3 servers in the US who counted on earning NW rewards to upgrade gears as a vast majority of them are screwed. It makes absolutely no sense to host an event for US servers on an EU server if they cannot modify the times. Might as well discontinue NW altogether.
  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    I guess if you're forced to hold it at 8pm CET, there's nothing to be done. Could you explain though why, for instance, you couldn't do it at 8pm EST Friday and 8pm CET Sunday to try and strike a better balance?

    Having the event happen twice on both days or different times on Friday/Sunday was the first solution we offered up to the developers but they said that the event was created in such a way that the time can never be modified. It can only happen at the 8pm of the server it is on. :/

    They aren't talking about it happening twice in one day, just one time on Friday, and a different time on Sunday. That should be rather easy to set up. If they didn't originally code it that way, they just need to modify the code. Even TW times can be changed, and those are "set in stone" on the server as well.​​
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  • wolfsrouge
    wolfsrouge Posts: 1 Arc User
    Well first off I usually never post on forums.
    But...I been reading them and I'm getting just very very irritated with what is happening, and it's not getting any better.
    This US based game is turning into a EU game w US players and US employees. (and yes I know there r EU players. Don't hate on me just yet lol )
    I had been playing PWI since 2010, spend money on it like most of the player base, in order to keep up w gear etc. and just to have fun and hang out w friends.
    Server merge was mentioned and I was actually okay with it. Figured.. ehh why the heck not .. get new players in game, make PVP more fun and bring new factions to the server that would make TW more interesting... Man was I wrong!
    Putting a PVP US server w an EU server together was the first joke, ohhh and taking the PVP out. But I figured I'll hang with it. PVE can be fun .. so why not, we still have NW and TW ( what now I can't do that anymore due to lag and EU times ) and the long awaited X-server PVP .... Snap!! Slap in the face once again for the US players and this time not just for the DawnGlory server ( who got totally screwed ever since the server merge) .. Now we are all stuck w EU times during NW.
    I get the whole reason behind the merge and so forth, but last time I checked it was a US game, and me as well as a lot of other players choose to play on an US server w US times for a reason, so it would work w school or work or what ever the reason was behind it. I know the complains have been going on, since this forsaken server merge and nothing really has been done about it, to work w the US players. ( I guess it was just one "tiny" server that had been complaining. Good ole harshlands). Solution for a lot of players is to quit and more and more players r uninstalling and/or quit playing the game all together due to that. ( Maybe not on all servers, but I know a lot of Harshland ppl have quit cause of the EU times since the merge). I know we don't get the option of switching servers, what honestly I think would be the best solution for a lot of players. I'm positive that a lot of people would return to the game, if they are able to basically pack up their toons and move to a different server where they can actually still play cause of the time zones. But we know that's is not an option...

    So now we are creating even a bigger uproar w putting the Xserver NW into EU times as well. Like why?!? Don't the people that make these decisions even care or read anything that the players have been venting about for the last few month?

    In the other PWE games like "Forsaken world" you have X-server PVP and its open 24/7, yes the events are US times and you can just pop to the x server anytime, any day. So why is it so hard to get something like this working for PWI and make it available to all players.
    I understand there r a lot of EU players, but also a lot of them made the choice to play on US based times, they made the choice to get up at crack of Dawn for TW or NW. I get that. But quite frankly we didn't have a choice we were forced in to goin to EU times and dealing w lag and basically we need to quit our jobs and school to do anything in game anymore...it's just plain stupid.
    I know Domino and Sheepy are tryin their bests to get the game back on track and to fix things so I'm not venting at them. I'm not mad at them. Domino is a great CM, he's been doing events and a lot of stuff in forsaken world. He is getting stuff fixed that is broken in FW and he seems like he really cares to help. So this is not anything against the CM's.
    I'm just tryin to figure out why the ppl behind CM's like Sheepy and Domino, just really don't care about what the players are asking for or wanting.



  • shivydrasic
    shivydrasic Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Sheep couldn't the devs just rewrite the code tho to make it fit, I mean where theres a will theres a way, or a new idea or way to code it? I understand its nearly impossible to change. And it will be hard for me and many others in the US to make NW

    o and still love the cute little rainbow sheepy xD on ur prof pic

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  • mintsummer
    mintsummer Posts: 125 admin
    Hello,
    I can shed a little light on the decision we made to set the Nation War time as it is now. When the decision was made, we weren’t choosing between EU or US players, we had to use CET because it is ahead of all of the server times. While testing the event, we encountered some major errors if the cross server wasn’t set to CET. When players entered a cross server zone where the time wasn’t set ahead of their server time, they would never be able to return to their original server, or if it was possible, all of their skill cooldowns would be set to 3 hours+. We chose CET time because it prevented players from ever encountering these issues. (There were test characters who were lost forever in this process :cry: )

    Your feedback about the current days and time has been really useful to us.  We are currently working on a new time schedule for all events: Territory Wars, Nation War, Battle for Treasure Island. We have also been working with the developers to see if there is any way they can modify the event for us.

    Right now, we are open to time schedule suggestions if you have them and thanks again for the feedback. :smile:



  • rocky19
    rocky19 Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Dear Perfect World International, @sheepclouds @thenamesdomino @mintsummer

    Please change the text on your Facebook "About" page, as this doesn't make any freaking common sense to even have that text there anymore

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  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    mintsummer wrote: »
    Hello,
    I can shed a little light on the decision we made to set the Nation War time as it is now. When the decision was made, we weren’t choosing between EU or US players, we had to use CET because it is ahead of all of the server times. While testing the event, we encountered some major errors if the cross server wasn’t set to CET. When players entered a cross server zone where the time wasn’t set ahead of their server time, they would never be able to return to their original server, or if it was possible, all of their skill cooldowns would be set to 3 hours+. We chose CET time because it prevented players from ever encountering these issues. (There were test characters who were lost forever in this process :cry: )

    Your feedback about the current days and time has been really useful to us.  We are currently working on a new time schedule for all events: Territory Wars, Nation War, Battle for Treasure Island. We have also been working with the developers to see if there is any way they can modify the event for us.

    Right now, we are open to time schedule suggestions if you have them and thanks again for the feedback. :smile:

    What about the TW time change? Moving it half an hour closer to NW doesn't make sense.​​
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  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User

    Hello,
    I can shed a little light on the decision we made to set the Nation War time as it is now. When the decision was made, we weren’t choosing between EU or US players, we had to use CET because it is ahead of all of the server times. While testing the event, we encountered some major errors if the cross server wasn’t set to CET. When players entered a cross server zone where the time wasn’t set ahead of their server time, they would never be able to return to their original server, or if it was possible, all of their skill cooldowns would be set to 3 hours+. We chose CET time because it prevented players from ever encountering these issues. (There were test characters who were lost forever in this process :cry: )

    Your feedback about the current days and time has been really useful to us.  We are currently working on a new time schedule for all events: Territory Wars, Nation War, Battle for Treasure Island. We have also been working with the developers to see if there is any way they can modify the event for us.

    Right now, we are open to time schedule suggestions if you have them and thanks again for the feedback. :smile:



    I am EU player, but i dont think that the times for NW and TW are fair enough. Should be set new times in EU zone then. Even if there are **** for EU players would be fair enough for others too. Noone will get 100% satisfied from the times. On Dawnglory the only people that can attend to 14:00 TW are HL players that they live in Europe.

    Fix that we need competition not to eliminate it!!
  • sheepclouds
    sheepclouds Posts: 81 Perfect World Employee
    edited November 2015



    mintsummer wrote: »

    Hello,

    I can shed a little light on the decision we made to set the Nation War time as it is now. When the decision was made, we weren’t choosing between EU or US players, we had to use CET because it is ahead of all of the server times. While testing the event, we encountered some major errors if the cross server wasn’t set to CET. When players entered a cross server zone where the time wasn’t set ahead of their server time, they would never be able to return to their original server, or if it was possible, all of their skill cooldowns would be set to 3 hours+. We chose CET time because it prevented players from ever encountering these issues. (There were test characters who were lost forever in this process :cry: )



    Your feedback about the current days and time has been really useful to us.  We are currently working on a new time schedule for all events: Territory Wars, Nation War, Battle for Treasure Island. We have also been working with the developers to see if there is any way they can modify the event for us.



    Right now, we are open to time schedule suggestions if you have them and thanks again for the feedback. :smile:



    What about the TW time change? Moving it half an hour closer to NW doesn't make sense.​​
    Most people have been saying that they need at least 45 minutes before TW. If we kept them at least an hour apart would that be enough time?
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  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User
    Should be but think if the TW is 3 hours and then 2 hours NW will be pretty hardcare
  • belnor
    belnor Posts: 105 Arc User
    I think for a lot of people having NW on Saturday and Sunday would be acceptable. As a left coaster, I certainly could/would attend. This would clear up time on Friday nights for some TW sessions.
  • iamluckingfoco
    iamluckingfoco Posts: 158 Arc User
    I like the way it is having Friday and Sunday. Not everyone can participate on weekends due to having families and spending time with them. Some also work on weekends, or have a lot to do on Saturday and Sunday. Having one on a weekday, and one on a weekend balances out more the ability of participating in at least one NW for a lot of players. There will always be those that have time for both no matter when NW is, but keep the days as they are please.
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  • darkonome
    darkonome Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Thanks @mintsummer and @sheepclouds for taking the time to come and explain why this change was necessary. An actual explanation from people like you guys that are plugged in and know what is going on is miles better than a fluffy response from a CM type person, which only infuriates people, as most often it's patronising and non-informative.

    I think we should leave it as it now until the developers can fix the coding to change the time of the event to something more accessible to the majority of players. We could possibly change the Friday slot to Saturday meanwhile. I'm assuming the CET limitation won't be able to be changed, and it kind of makes sense as you're temporarily porting characters to the 'future' and then bringing them back to the present, rather than porting them to the past then bringing them back to the present which most avid time travelers will agree is a big no no.

    I think people would prefer to deal with a bit of a nuisance now and hopefully get a better time soon than run the risk of permanently losing their characters.
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    :p Wow! I guess I should say ty on the WIN-10 patch fix PW :p

    Its been months since my old vista comp died and I'd gotten a WIN-10 laptop to replace it.... lol!!! Now theres no more Epileptic seizure strobes going on once I bring up the game, it actually works fullscreen now >>>LMAOOooooo!! :D

    Guess I can finally try to come back now...
  • sylenthunder
    sylenthunder Posts: 3,061 Community Moderator
    seitori wrote: »
    :p Wow! I guess I should say ty on the WIN-10 patch fix PW :p

    Its been months since my old vista comp died and I'd gotten a WIN-10 laptop to replace it.... lol!!! Now theres no more Epileptic seizure strobes going on once I bring up the game, it actually works fullscreen now >>>LMAOOooooo!! :D

    Guess I can finally try to come back now...
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    THIS MADE MY DAY LMFAO
    rocky19 said:

    Dear Perfect World International, @sheepclouds @thenamesdomino @mintsummer

    Please change the text on your Facebook "About" page, as this doesn't make any freaking common sense to even have that text there anymore

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  • eternalghost
    eternalghost Posts: 154 Arc User
    @asterelle I dont suppose you could try and find the % on the new B - S card packs? I saw your post on the heavenfall odds and I am really eager to find out if these packs will be worth the most likely high price in the boutique (For the essence at least) xD
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    @asterelle I dont suppose you could try and find the % on the new B - S card packs? I saw your post on the heavenfall odds and I am really eager to find out if these packs will be worth the most likely high price in the boutique (For the essence at least) xD

    This is what one of them looks like.


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