Skills back to the basics

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  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    limonazza wrote: »
    you got bored of your class i guess if you went to look for pvp damage

    How so? I came to pw early in 2009, veno was able to kill 1v1 (and even more due to famous phoenix flesh ream). I chose build which allowed me to kill and survive. Then I stopped dealing enough damage and added points into magic to solve the problem.
    Being pure support is not what I signed for 7 years ago, no matter how much I like or dislike it now.
    Besides if I got bored of my class, why would I max it out now? o.o
    Calc is in sig, money I invested in it would be enough to reroll onto several r9r other classes if I wanted xD
    Since you don't need to kill stuff, the price of such a character is also much cheaper.

    Funny thing - it's not cheaper, vice versa, it's more expensive.    ​​
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    I prefer clerics heal in pvp,toss debuff every once in awhile but in pve i prefer all out DD at this point in game only boss that should kill u is toad in FSP otherwise I see no reason a cleric cant dd in instances
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  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    shade13 wrote: »
    limonazza wrote: »
    you got bored of your class i guess if you went to look for pvp damage

    How so? I came to pw early in 2009, veno was able to kill 1v1 (and even more due to famous phoenix flesh ream). I chose build which allowed me to kill and survive. Then I stopped dealing enough damage and added points into magic to solve the problem.
    Being pure support is not what I signed for 7 years ago, no matter how much I like or dislike it now.
    Besides if I got bored of my class, why would I max it out now? o.o
    Calc is in sig, money I invested in it would be enough to reroll onto several r9r other classes if I wanted xD
    Since you don't need to kill stuff, the price of such a character is also much cheaper.

    Funny thing - it's not cheaper, vice versa, it's more expensive.

    pls tell me you were one of those deicide glitch venos *-*​​
  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    Okay this has gotten out of hand lol fact is vit build is nice but her point is its not as well rounded as ppl hope to believe which is why she chose full mag jsod it makes perfect sense xD
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  • cynderangel
    cynderangel Posts: 193 Arc User
    Someone said 0 phys def proc is only for demon venos. Did I miss something? I know demons have demon ironwood, but don't both of the level 79 myriad skills have about as much chance of proc'ing 0 phys/mag def? Or are they not 0%? :confused: I think I'm confused lol
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  • chary
    chary Posts: 850 Arc User
    Myriad is 100% reduction, not 0. Non-primaled demon ironwood literally sets your pdef to 0 if it procs.

    It will still hurt a lot if myriad procs, but it's not the complete death sentence demon ironwood is.
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    Kinda see where shes coming from it says 100% so I would assume it meant 0 aswell shesh pwi isnt always too clear hahaha
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  • cynderangel
    cynderangel Posts: 193 Arc User
    Ohh. What does it actually take into account in that 100%?
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  • keihan007#7641
    keihan007#7641 Posts: 1,190 Arc User
    cynderangel said:

    Ohh. What does it actually take into account in that 100%?

    Gear defenses. Pre passives 100% was close enough to 0 if you werent buffed. Now we got the basic 100% + 80%(passive) + Buffs. So 100% debuff leaves roughly half your defenses in place if you are purged, more if not.
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  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    limonazza wrote: »
    pls tell me you were one of those deicide glitch venos *-*

    What is deicide glitch?

    Last time I tested (with primal passives), after myriad proc you deal a bit less than x2 more damage. According to the calc, def reduces for 10% or so. About nothing. Ty passives :D    ​​
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    geez thanks alot passives lmao thats so messed up they do you dirty like that happy my only concern is whom shalll I steal defense levels from :D
    shade13 said:



    limonazza wrote: »

    pls tell me you were one of those deicide glitch venos *-*



    What is deicide glitch?



    Last time I tested (with primal passives), after myriad proc you deal a bit less than x2 more damage. According to the calc, def reduces for 10% or so. About nothing. Ty passives :D    ​​

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  • mishka#2285
    mishka#2285 Posts: 36 Arc User
    sylenthunder said:



    chary wrote: »

    Pure vit build is the best veno build tho and has been for awhile. What classes even go pure vit besides veno/barb/some BMs anyway though.

    You my friend, are smoking crack. a Pure VIT Veno would be more useless than HA. Or nearly so. HA is doable, but you're going to spend a majority of your time in fox form and your skill damage is severely gimped. Pure VIT would gimp you even more.

    blazerboy wrote: »

    Not trying to do a Necro thread thing or bring out utter nonsense but is anyone else hearing about some rumor sometime between nov and dec PWCN supposed to update skills in a attempt to balance thier classes? (Because PrimaI skills were such a success equally lol) Ionly ask because of the following:



    1) For some reason so many on DawnsGlory have convinced themselves this is legit this time

    2)GMs have no real power year but Chinese Devs must see variety in this game is truely scares

    3)Its not even fun to watch 2008 classes forced to play full vit build or meerly supportive rolls because no other use for them seems apparent. I.E Venos,Seekers, Rarely even see well geared mystics, Archers, wizards

    Back in November 2013, when the original Developers of the game were brought back onboard, it was stated that they were going to upgrade the game's core engine to Angelica III, and re-texture the original classes to update their looks. There was also discussion of adding mo-cap animations to a lot of things, and re-texturing the original map zones.

    So far, they've re-textured some NPC's.



    1. People smoke crack and spread rumors all the time. Believe it when you see it in an official posting. (Although, in the case of the aforementioned development, take even that with a grain of salt.)

    2. I'm not even sure what you're saying there. PWE has very little control over the game development though.

    3. 2008 classes are not forced to play full VIT. That's not even a viable build except in the cases of the seeker or the barb. (Seeker not being a 2008 class technically, although it did exist at that time in the most basic form) A pure STR Seeker can deal quite a lot of damage and is reasonable effective in squads. The real issue is that no one sees anything as effective except Sin's, a BM's HF skill, and the two new classes. Oh, and a cleric if they aren't R999+10.​​

    well,i do have a little bit of experience in graphical design,and animation.id love to help >.>
  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    yup resistance passives broke the game,
    i mean broke the game for any class that was relying on debuffs, fire combo from instance passed from reducing target fire res from lets say 90% to 50%, now it reduces it from 90% to 80%.......................

    @ marengo, when aps was the thing, venos, especially CH venos that were attending PWI championship,
    were HA aps build, they would wear deicides, break them then switch into fox form and repair them to be 5 aps in fox form + nix bleed... that **** was broken AF (few of those venos won PWI championship i believe)​​
  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    5aps veno ftw
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  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    limonazza wrote: »
    @ marengo, when aps was the thing, venos, especially CH venos that were attending PWI championship,
    were HA aps build, they would wear deicides, break them then switch into fox form and repair them to be 5 aps in fox form + nix bleed... that **** was broken AF (few of those venos won PWI championship i believe)

    Ah, I see. I knew how it worked, but I never did that, was always arcane, full vit, hybrid then full mag, never wore anything else.    ​​
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