The Tower of Power

dingo488 said:

initiates a slow clap

Generally, OP 1v1 classes: duskblade, sin, barb, cleric, blademaster, stormbringer (not necessarily in that order)

Mass pvp/tw though, I'd argue every class has their role. Granted, the two most important classes in tw are venos+bms.

In Kitty's hateful opinion based on her experience from playing all of them on various builds(as full T3+6), she can't really find a class that's seriously underpowered compared to others. Kitty thinks there's 4 major areas of play: Mass-PVP, single-target PVP, single-target PVE and AoE-PVE and there's no class that would excel at all of them. Go on saying "PVE doesn't matter". That's where skill and class specialties matter more than in PVP, Kitty thinks.

How Kitty feels about them?

Blademaster: Good all-arounder, not best at any of those areas.
Wizard: Excels in mass-PVP and AoE-PVE, decent in other areas
Archer: Excels in single-target PVE and AoE-PVE, decent in PVP
Cleric: Good at PVP in general, decent single-target PVE, bad AoE-PVE
Barbarian: Excels in most areas with various builds, but none of them excels at more than 2 at once 'cause certain weaknesses.
Venomancer: Excels in Single-target PVP and PVE, good at mass-PVP, bad at AoE-PVE.
Assassin: Excels in single-target, decent in AoE-PVE, quite bad in mass-PVP.
Psychic: Would otherwise excel in all areas, but too squishy when doing so.
Mystic: Excels in single-target PVE, good in other areas.
Seeker: Excels in Mass-PVP and AoE-PVE, decent in single-target stuff.
Stormbringer: Excels in PVP, good at AoE-PVE, decent in single-target PVE. Squishy.
Duskblade: Excels in single-target stuff, good in AoE-PVE, hardly decent in Mass-PVP.

Note: that's just Kitty's opinion and she has no real experience how they're for r9rr+12s, except for having seen some fights.​​

Alphabetical order, just general comments.

Archer: They complain a lot about their class being nerfed, but they're still godlike in mass pvp. Long-range purge is the most broken thing in the game. Combined with their class immune skill, kiting ability, and spark generation, they can survive long enough until purge triggers and then they win. The rest of their skillset is **** but you don't need a skillset when you have purge. Entire class needs a remake from the ground up to modernize their skills and get rid of purge weapons.

Assassin: Most complained about class. Perhaps rightly so, as their primal skills are way overtuned. Or at least tuned for China's average gear level and not Murica's. They're still super squishy and if you manage to land status on them they lose.

Barbarian: In PVE they've been nerfed to death, as nearly every other class can tank as well if not better than them. Wanmei had to add bosses that specifically required barbs so people would still bother with them. PVP they're still important as catapult pullers and flag runners, and strength barbs are dangerous opponents.

Blademaster: They've been a bit up and down over the years. In pve they've become "nice to have, but I don't really need one." One of the best 1v1 classes in pvp. I have mixed feelings on their effectiveness in mass pvp.

Cleric: Very versatile class, highest dps of all classes in pve with primal cyclone. Not so great with burst damage in pvp, but they can annoy you a very long time with sleep and seal of god.

Duskblade: Huge damage and amazing stunlock abilities. They do what sins do better, except they don't have the safety nets that sins do to survive (tidal, death survival, etc.). Basically if you see them first you can wreck them, and if they see you first good luck.

Mystic: Huge dps, super tanky, better single target healing than clerics. They're pretty broken overall. They do have trouble with burst damage against tanky opponents, and all their damage being wood element means Nullify Poison on a genie shuts them down.

Psychic: Overall this class is not very good. They can do a lot of damage in Black Voodoo... at the cost of dying to a sneeze. They can be very tanky in White Voodoo... at the cost of not being able to hurt anyone. And with no voodoo they're basically worse wizards? Their primary contribution to existence is giving Soul of Silence to more important classes.

Seeker: Ah, the Earthguard class everyone rolled and +12d because they thought they were broken, when they should have rolled Mystic instead. Seekers are decently tanky and can hit hard if you stand there ignoring them and let them set up their long combo on you. Very mediocre class.

Stormbringer: Ah the Nightshade class everyone rolled and +12d because they thought they were broken, when they should have rolled Duskblade instead. They do have high dps. Vortex is a great skill for mass pvp.

Venomancer: Venos have been up and down, from the most broken class at the beginning of the game to one of the worst. As they stand now they're pretty decent. Purge is amazing in mass pvp and good 1v1. They're supposed to be the tanky caster class but are probably one of the squishier ones?

Wizard: I'm trying to think of a time when Wizard wasn't the worst class in the game and I can't think of one. With the game how it is, you're forced to go Deity stones with them in order to do enough damage to stay relevant. They're just bad.

Based veno is best.

assuming endgame gear most op to least op for pvp both group and 1v1:

duskblade
stormbringer
mystic
cleric
barb
bm
assassin
Psychic
veno
seeker
archer
wizard

How do I know?
I've been floating around endgame gear in pvp for 7 years. Anyone is entitled to their opinions in which class is strongest, but my list is based off fact and how much certain classes just make other classes roll over. I've played classes, with endgame gear at the bottom of this list and the top, its a big difference. The kind of difference where you can walk into nw and kill maybe 15-20 people per map to wiping out over 60 in the same time period. Same in tw, when i use to play wizard i could kill maybe half a squad at a time with an amped up 2 spark aoe every min or 2. With stormbringer I can kill off half a faction in a couple seconds without even spending chi thats why they are hardcore targeted.
The game is not balanced, anyone who says otherwise is lying or disillusional. If you ask anyone playing their class if they are op, most will be in denial and say no, don't bother asking them.
BTW, barb is not the tankiest class, a mystic is.​​

jabq wrote: »

@dingo488 could you explain how the "tower of power" works?

Kitty can.

In the middle ish an element. On the left side are elements that the middle element ish not very effective or doesn't work at all against. On the right side are elements that the middle element ish super-effective against.

For example Dark is immune to Ghost if Kitty remembers correctly. And Ghost is super-effective against Psychic-type.

It's a long time since Kitty last played those games, though.

Element-wise PWI ish more simple as PWI's elements are based on chinese Wu Xing-way of thinking about 5 elements overcoming each other. Fire melts the metal, metal ish crafted into tools to cut the woods, wood takes nutrients from earth, earth absorbs and dams water, water extinguishes fires.​​

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On Hwilight Hemple it's rare to find a single white name while doing primal dailes anymore =/. Kinda ironic that from lost city the player population has near doubled but pvp (at least rpk and not the " faction (s) vs faction (s), who ever has the most numbers wins" bull) has become nonexistent because of it....I miss my pvp server T-T