the continual decrease of players

typical69 said:

blah blah blah blah blah....and for future reference no i dont care what some troll has to say about it u can go jump off a cliff if u have something negative to say nor will i be replying to said troll

Are we supposed to respond to this or not?

Anyway...

All games lose population as they get older no matter what you try to do or what you not try to do...cmon peeps PW is over 8 years old now for our version, people get bored and move on to newer stuff...the grass is always greener where you havent been before...

Honestly I've thought that making the game too easy (too much easy xp) is a large part of what makes it less enjoyable for new players. And I started to notice a decline in players when FC was becoming a thing. (More toons but fewer actual players.)

Early rapid leveling makes the point when it slows down feel like a wall, rather than a increase in challenge. The lack of players overall means that when you need help with a boss fight (because they are litterally impossible solo at level), you've got to beg for help rather than find local players - and then you are useless and see just how outclassed you are by other players.

Now think about how those things will emotionally affect a new player. Especially with how empty the start areas are. Easy rpgs do not keep people interested in them, unless there is some serious gimmick involved.




Also, how well advertised is the game? True there are so many games out there, and I don't visit a lot of gamer sites, but I came from an ad on Fanfiction net - not a game site. And I haven't see PW advertise there in years.

The game is not balanced in a way to maintain the interest of new players. I'd wager that China took a look at how a large percentage of players shelled out the cash for endgame gear. And figured they'd get the largest profit in getting players to endgame so they'd purchase the gear. I doubt very many players overall spend more than 20-40$ on the chance boxes/packs, with an only minor number of exceptions purchasing 100s of them.

no its true they have nothen to do with the ppl in games pwi ot nw or the rest of them they dont want to hear us out all they want is ower cash **** the game and **** the player thats there moto its feed us as any **** game is

*shakes her cane* back in myyyy dehh we used to kill 20 of each monstah in yee olleee wraithhhgate... UPHILL BOTH WAYS! ​​

wloftis said:

i meen took me a **** 1/2 hr to get into the forums to find this site and i loged in from NW if that tells u anything at all it should have given me nw site on the spot so if the payers that are players cant find there space then how can u talk or type to a person or a bot i would say a bot to fix **** then tells me they dont want to know

This says that you obviously have an issue reading and comprehending websites.
I mean, if it takes you half an hour to go to arcgames.com, log in, click on the game, and click on forum, you must have some serious mental issues. Particularly reading comprehension since this isn't the NW forum.
Or, you're 5.
Or you can't read.

eirghan said:

*shakes her cane* back in myyyy dehh we used to kill 20 of each monstah in yee olleee wraithhhgate... UPHILL BOTH WAYS! ​​

....in tha snow....

The game is like 9 years old, the engine is probably even older. Of course they aren't advertising for new players, it's an established successful flagship title that has helped PWE gain traction and add a significant collection of other games to diversify into and yes they have shifted focus away from it over the years to focus on newer titles and growth elsewhere, but they've still provided content updates as and when they are delivered from PWCN.

From a corporate perspective they are doing the minimum they need to keep this game running and the existing player base content to continue on playing, MMOs by their very genre are the kind of game that most prospective players look to start playing on a fresh new server with an equal footing with other new players, so I don't know why people are still surprised there are hardly any new players.

Over time more and more people will quit in pursuit of other newer games, and this is why they did the server merges to provide that sense of a busy active server for the current players. Over time eventually they will do more server merges and one day they will close the game. Yes there are new players coming to the game, some stick it out some don't, yes we have people quitting the game, some come back some don't. Everything that has a beginning has an end. Enjoy the game and the player base while it lasts.

I would say the game has a very serious issue with customer support, and that the lack of intelligent responding people in said customer support has hurt this game considerably. I would say that a lack of PROPER GM and player interaction and GM presence in general hurts the game. FC....not so much. It was great while it lasted but was never SUPPOSED to be that way. If it had been as it was supposed to to begin with, we wouldn't even be HAVING this discussion. Someone mentioned lack of advertisement which is a VERY good point, PWE needs to advertise this game better/more to get it out there. That would for sure bring more players to the game. What we REALLY need though is someone like @thenamesdomino or maybe more then one of him. We need someone that understands the problems the players have and can be a proper liaison between us and the company, but the problem has come up in the past where even with a proper CM, PWE doesn't care.

So that brings us to the real heart of the problem with the entire thing. Just like in a faction I was in, the problem is lack of care/responsibility at the head of the game. The devs/owners/GMs just don't really care what we want or need and could care less about our tickets a majority of the time. The games real decline is due to this and not much else. We get botched news announcements with multiple grammatical errors, we get a lack of any kind of proper compensation when they **** up (ie the spirit coin issue was a HUGE bungle and even after going to the BBB they refuse to understand) and actually trying to submit a ticket and get a proper response is like talking to a baby and expecting them to understand quantum physics. Once PWE can actually get competent people behind the ticket counter and GMs, THEN we can see people having a more positive response/view of the game.

typical69 wrote: »

l but it would be nice if higher ups got more dailies so it wasnt such a pain just to get to lvl 102 lol

Do a full delta daily, it gives you 2m exp .​​

baneof1000ad wrote: »

jabq wrote: »

typical69 wrote: »

l but it would be nice if higher ups got more dailies so it wasnt such a pain just to get to lvl 102 lol

Do a full delta daily, it gives you 2m exp .

he has attention span of a gnat how he suppose get squad for full delta lol

I am thinking press f12 very quickly when delta starts.​​

I just started playing the game a few days ago myself (looking for a new mmorpg as I've gotten beyond sick of the one I was playing, especially as it's dying fast), and I've already decided to skip all the free experience/spirit things I keep getting as rewards and whatnot. I'm really enjoying the game, but being able to level with them so easily got boring fast.

@pyrosandstorm#1009 which server did you start on? And welcome i hope you enjoy. Its a fun game especially in the beginning a lot of the pve factions are really nice.

Troll thread. Most got over the FCC QQ a long time ago. It's way too easy to level in PV. Find a rebirth and get an invite or solo it.

Thanks @typical69 . And every game has at least some trolls .

Personally, I also think it's the lack of actual customer/GM support and what not... But also the fact that at higher levels, the game gets more interesting or fun. There are more instances and dailies than a lower level individual. Like....People gain more skill, more teamwork in instances like fsp, etc. I used to play a lot of low level alts because I would get bored after a while (this was before the quests give better rewards). However, after I got my first toon to 100, I had more fun and tried to stick with it instead of playing my alts. I got more skills, more dailies, more instances. I can go neuma hunting (not that others can't). Being a low level player, your use of skills are more limited. As in, not all the skills appeared that makes it more fun (even though I use old skills a lot). What I'm saying is that some people get too impatient and give up before reaching level 100. I remember my first toon becoming demon... I was so happy. It felt like a hard job been done. But now, it's nothing as special...

Do you guys think it was a good think to give new players flyers at level 10? I'm just wondering since I played when flyer were given at level 30 and I had to take the time to walk everywhere. However, this gave me the chance to explore and I don't regret it.

Also @pyrosandstorm#1009 welcome to the game I hope you enjoy here as much as I do. Mind if I ask how did you personally found this game?

flowingmizu said:

... also the fact that at higher levels, the game gets more interesting or fun. There are more instances and dailies than a lower level individual. Like....People gain more skill, more teamwork in instances like fsp, etc. ...

When you skip all game up to high level you skip most of the quests and instances.

High level players need much more money and efforts to play in few high level instances.

Personally I think, that high-level mean end of game.