the continual decrease of players

Lack of FC made it lose population? Its so freaking easy to level in this game without FC especially with all the changes, AND it gives some variety instead of FC, or FC, and maybe FC. Oh and I forgot FC, and that other instance, what was it called? Thats right, FC. You may have not used FC, I know I rarely did since I found the instance boring, but FC also was steering towards the game's destruction when the only thing the majority did was FC.

And as Barber said, as games age, they lose population, however there are quite a few new players and returning players. When one has a faction that recruits all levels instead of 70+ or RB1 100+, you find out just how many.

The thing is new players dont even know about fc anymore and thats a good thing.
alot of ppl dont even know what goon glitch is and that you could manipulate codes given out from PWI to get some serious items.
Not that they know fc is a thing until someone tells them about it and how it was back then. Maybe they get frustrated but seeing how easy it is to lvup and casual gamers even have it easier with the exp buff they getting after 20 days off (assuming they have friends who sends them the thing and they are lv 100) but even in low lv the quests are so buffed and toned down its so easy to get on track.

I for example made a toon not too long ago and was confused about how short some cultivation quests are nowadays. didnt done them since 2011 or 2012 and the lv 20~30 part was ridiculously long and tedious. now its so short you dont even know.
The big part of the game is really leveling and get a hand on some nice gear and with fc you walk to the exp room with lv 20 gear and onehit some mobs to get insane exp until you are either lv 100 or reached a point where you could do the instance yourself with a squad but then you figure out you still have lv 20 gear and have to cash in some bucks to get gear first.
Also new players rarely cash in some money to buy said rooms anyways because they have no idea if its worth it because... they dont know it yet.

Also this thread is once again only just a "pwi is dead" kind of thread and its been awhile since we had one of those.
PWI is not dead but new players are not flowing in like its black friday and you have a wallmart with extra deals.
Get over it, this game is very old and new players are mostly players who know pwi already and just came back to have some more fun with new alts or existing alts.

Cheers ​​

i meen took me a **** 1/2 hr to get into the forums to find this site and i loged in from NW if that tells u anything at all it should have given me nw site on the spot so if the payers that are players cant find there space then how can u talk or type to a person or a bot i would say a bot to fix **** then tells me they dont want to know

This game is not dying, yes we have less new people in the game than we did coming in 7 or even 3 years ago but we still DO have some new players joining. The problem is that once you hit a certain gear and level standard lowbies tend to just slide under the radar as they are doing totally different quests/bhs/dalies than you are so they just don't get noticed.

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The game is like 9 years old, the engine is probably even older. Of course they aren't advertising for new players, it's an established successful flagship title that has helped PWE gain traction and add a significant collection of other games to diversify into and yes they have shifted focus away from it over the years to focus on newer titles and growth elsewhere, but they've still provided content updates as and when they are delivered from PWCN.

From a corporate perspective they are doing the minimum they need to keep this game running and the existing player base content to continue on playing, MMOs by their very genre are the kind of game that most prospective players look to start playing on a fresh new server with an equal footing with other new players, so I don't know why people are still surprised there are hardly any new players.

Over time more and more people will quit in pursuit of other newer games, and this is why they did the server merges to provide that sense of a busy active server for the current players. Over time eventually they will do more server merges and one day they will close the game. Yes there are new players coming to the game, some stick it out some don't, yes we have people quitting the game, some come back some don't. Everything that has a beginning has an end. Enjoy the game and the player base while it lasts.

I would say the game has a very serious issue with customer support, and that the lack of intelligent responding people in said customer support has hurt this game considerably. I would say that a lack of PROPER GM and player interaction and GM presence in general hurts the game. FC....not so much. It was great while it lasted but was never SUPPOSED to be that way. If it had been as it was supposed to to begin with, we wouldn't even be HAVING this discussion. Someone mentioned lack of advertisement which is a VERY good point, PWE needs to advertise this game better/more to get it out there. That would for sure bring more players to the game. What we REALLY need though is someone like @thenamesdomino or maybe more then one of him. We need someone that understands the problems the players have and can be a proper liaison between us and the company, but the problem has come up in the past where even with a proper CM, PWE doesn't care.

So that brings us to the real heart of the problem with the entire thing. Just like in a faction I was in, the problem is lack of care/responsibility at the head of the game. The devs/owners/GMs just don't really care what we want or need and could care less about our tickets a majority of the time. The games real decline is due to this and not much else. We get botched news announcements with multiple grammatical errors, we get a lack of any kind of proper compensation when they **** up (ie the spirit coin issue was a HUGE bungle and even after going to the BBB they refuse to understand) and actually trying to submit a ticket and get a proper response is like talking to a baby and expecting them to understand quantum physics. Once PWE can actually get competent people behind the ticket counter and GMs, THEN we can see people having a more positive response/view of the game.

typical69 wrote: »

l but it would be nice if higher ups got more dailies so it wasnt such a pain just to get to lvl 102 lol

Do a full delta daily, it gives you 2m exp .​​

baneof1000ad wrote: »

jabq wrote: »

typical69 wrote: »

l but it would be nice if higher ups got more dailies so it wasnt such a pain just to get to lvl 102 lol

Do a full delta daily, it gives you 2m exp .

he has attention span of a gnat how he suppose get squad for full delta lol

I am thinking press f12 very quickly when delta starts.​​

I just started playing the game a few days ago myself (looking for a new mmorpg as I've gotten beyond sick of the one I was playing, especially as it's dying fast), and I've already decided to skip all the free experience/spirit things I keep getting as rewards and whatnot. I'm really enjoying the game, but being able to level with them so easily got boring fast.

@pyrosandstorm#1009 which server did you start on? And welcome i hope you enjoy. Its a fun game especially in the beginning a lot of the pve factions are really nice.

Troll thread. Most got over the FCC QQ a long time ago. It's way too easy to level in PV. Find a rebirth and get an invite or solo it.

Thanks @typical69 . And every game has at least some trolls .

Personally, I also think it's the lack of actual customer/GM support and what not... But also the fact that at higher levels, the game gets more interesting or fun. There are more instances and dailies than a lower level individual. Like....People gain more skill, more teamwork in instances like fsp, etc. I used to play a lot of low level alts because I would get bored after a while (this was before the quests give better rewards). However, after I got my first toon to 100, I had more fun and tried to stick with it instead of playing my alts. I got more skills, more dailies, more instances. I can go neuma hunting (not that others can't). Being a low level player, your use of skills are more limited. As in, not all the skills appeared that makes it more fun (even though I use old skills a lot). What I'm saying is that some people get too impatient and give up before reaching level 100. I remember my first toon becoming demon... I was so happy. It felt like a hard job been done. But now, it's nothing as special...

Do you guys think it was a good think to give new players flyers at level 10? I'm just wondering since I played when flyer were given at level 30 and I had to take the time to walk everywhere. However, this gave me the chance to explore and I don't regret it.

Also @pyrosandstorm#1009 welcome to the game I hope you enjoy here as much as I do. Mind if I ask how did you personally found this game?

flowingmizu said:

... also the fact that at higher levels, the game gets more interesting or fun. There are more instances and dailies than a lower level individual. Like....People gain more skill, more teamwork in instances like fsp, etc. ...

When you skip all game up to high level you skip most of the quests and instances.

High level players need much more money and efforts to play in few high level instances.

Personally I think, that high-level mean end of game.