Colour Discrimination

Post yfw pvp elite get completely wrecked by pve scrubs

i really dont care if you are blue name or white really. i joined harshlands back then because it was a pvp server yes and it was fun back then but now its not so much fun anymore.

What bothers me is when someone (blue name) trash talks you or doing stuff that would you take more time then needed to complete something its what would get me to attack you.
Ofc you cant attack blue names so im kinda stuck there getting **** talked by a dude who is waaay under my gear (not that its a problem in any way we all where at that point) and refuses to come and fight me.
had that just yesterday doing primal after NW and he insults me cuz he got bashed from r9 people for 2 hours.

Dunno why but hiding behind the blue name is like hiding in sz and use wc to trashtalk.
i mostly ignore it but sometimes my finger itches and thats what bothers me a little bit about a pve server.

other then that i have nothing about blue names and i even would go as far as calling it a better enviroment in PWI overall because they dont get stomped by people who are just bored and want to questblock or something between these lines.

draco5787 wrote: »

Biggest issue I have with blue name is when they sit out at the pvp spots lagging me to death with all the extra people just sitting around. There are also times when a blue name is just sitting there and all of a sudden they all go white and gank you. Like wtf, is that how you get your kicks?

Everyone is free to stay were they want. Even in pvp spots just to watch others pvp or chat with others. You cannot stop them or have any right to tell them going other place.
I thought you white names like this adrenaline that being attacked when you less expect? So shouldnt you be happy when a blue name goes white and atack you?
Conclusion: you chose pvp and thats how pvp works in this game: inbalanced and full of players that will do anything to kill others so if you like it that much you have no other option than to

eirghan wrote: »

razzzza wrote: »

i really dont care if you are blue name or white really. i joined harshlands back then because it was a pvp server yes and it was fun back then but now its not so much fun anymore.

What bothers me is when someone (blue name) trash talks you or doing stuff that would you take more time then needed to complete something its what would get me to attack you.
Ofc you cant attack blue names so im kinda stuck there getting sh/ittalked by a dude who is waaay under my gear (not that its a problem in any way we all where at that point) and refuses to come and fight me.
had that just yesterday doing primal after NW and he insults me cuz he got bashed from r9 people for 2 hours.

Dunno why but hiding behind the blue name is like hiding in sz and use wc to trashtalk.
i mostly ignore it but sometimes my finger itches and thats what bothers me a little bit about a pve server.

other then that i have nothing about blue names and i even would go as far as calling it a better enviroment in PWI overall because they dont get stomped by people who are just bored and want to questblock or something between these lines.

I can understand the desire of "white named" people. They chose a "white named" server and got put in a "blue named" server. But it's a two way street. "Blue named" people, in a "blue named" server were forced to endure an invasion by "white named" people. We did not choose the merge, nor did you. We both have to accept it and the changes that come.

I can understand the frustration of blue names talking **** from safezone. Because living on a "blue named" server and pking on it, it happens all of the time. For me it's not right for a "blue name" to **** talk "white names". Again, that goes both ways, though.

Not saying you specifically are at fault, but people on servers like yours started a lot of trash talking on the "white named" server even before the merge, so not sure how this "they did something wrong first" idea justifies it. Two wrongs don't make a right, and neither does one wrong trying to pass off as a right make a right . It's a discrimination based on the colour of your name - no matter how players try to justify it.

Im not quiet sure why you quoted me with the answer you gave because i never said that they are wrong beeing blue name.
I dont give a damn and i never trashtalked over wc im just a normal player who enjoys what he has in PWI and the merge was super awesome for me personaly and i really like seeing people everywhere.

The only thing i might have said is that they started it by trashtalk me and insult because they had a bad experience in nw or whereever but i can agree harshlands was full of these people who talked big... very big.

It was entertaining when you just did your dailys and the big cashers QQ over WC having noone to pk or insulting eachother and now well.. the same is happening in dawnglory now.

I, for one, welcome our new Sanctuarian overlords.

But I'll never understand why the powers that be didn't just merge the 2 pvp servers.

Pvp attracts asses and trolls and the like, trash talking is second nature. These exact things that OP brought up were the first things that went through my head when hearing about the merge. Hopefully things will settle down with time. Failing that, maybe the pvp'ers can transfer toons to the new pvp server, if that actually pans out

It's ancient knowledge that the internet brings out the worst in some people. Protected by anonimity and all that, they would never say/do certain things to anybody's face in a real life setting. And it isn't always repressed, 'troubled' individuals who take on this bully, elitist role online.
That raging troll in WC? Could very well be a perfectly calm person sitting at their desk and enjoying food while typing out the slurs and nonsense. They do fish for attention though, something people give plenty of willingly.

I've never had any insults thrown at me in particular so far for being blue name, aside from "LOL don't talk to me if you're blue name...". Then again, I don't join most squads, or form my own where as a squad leader, if anybody behaves like a territorial baboon to others, I can kick them out.

There is one thing that bothers me tremendously so far with some of the 'new' people though. The "Link weapon!!!!!" squad forming. Linking a weapon for PvE dungeons is so '08 and asinine with today's gears. Nobody runs around in white NPC stuff anymore.
Besides, if a squad already has a handful of stronger people, why do the others have to be the same? How can so-called squishies ever improve their toons if this trend comes back alive again, being denied for being in the weak stage everybody was at some point before?

I'm glad most people stand up to this virtual name color and gear discrimination though. Sanctuary didn't vote for the merge. Sanctuary didn't create the update. Sanctuary didn't obsessively ask the higher-ups to take away the fun of a PvP server. We all didn't have a choice.

Everyone can choose though to adapt and become a decent, reasonably polite community. All this hate everyone is guilty of (including me at times) will only keep spiraling lower into a depth of bitterness where nobody should really have to be. Drama shouldn't be entertaining, it should be avoided. It doesn't do justice to anyone.

About wep link, I do it just to filter out people who can't follow simple directions. I know high gear is not needed and the chars I bring have enough DD to compensate for rest of squad. I've hit the point where I'll invite people who link level 1 weps...just as long as you've linked a wep. I have turned down players I KNOW jave 3r9+12 gear because they didn't link a weapon, don't need people who can't follow directions.

So if you see me forming a FS run, link a god dam npc wep and you'll get an auto invite (though I might kick you if you running w/ like 4 k hp though).

BLUE LIVES MATTER! #bluelivesmatter

I haven't experienced discrimination (yet) nor do I discriminate.
I don't care what "colour" you are, or what gear you have, so long as you do your job to the best of your ability.

It's interesting though, almost like (for some of us) taking a step back in time, to an age where weapon-linking was common (aps vana anyone? ), and even then it was seen as a bit snooty and unnecessary. Eventually it was a fad we grew out of as a server, so it feels a little regressive to be seeing people nit-picking weaponry again. Honestly, the quality of your gear doesn't reflect the quality of your skill. But I won't try to stop people from being as fussy as they want to be, I just don't join those squads, there's no need to, considering the fact that there are so many more calls in wc for squads, it won't take long before a less picky person wcs for the same thing.

I don't subscribe to the "it's just a game so I'll treat people like **** if I feel like it" mentality. I understand the game is an outlet, so I just assume the in-game "jerks" are just repressed jerks in real life, and the trolls are the ones taking the game too seriously. "The true test of [a person's] character is what [they do] when no one is watching", so seeing people interact anonymously over a game could be an interesting glimpse into the nature of an individual.

Actually, the biggest conflicts I've seen so far are over how loot is treated in dungeons; seems servers had pretty different and possibly incompatible loot etiquette. At least for the moment it's a good idea to establish rules before just heading in, until the preferred tradition takes over securely. On the bright side, all pvpers and pveers agree on who their worst wc trolls are it seems, frustration over a mutual enemy is a great uniting force.

Maybe I can shed some additional light on this topic, but at the very least I can ramble on for days about it!

I was on LC for almost 6 years, but I took a break for a while and went to DW. I really enjoyed my time there. Some things I noticed in general about DW (and I'd assume all pve servers) : holy **** there's a ton of people here, people are more friendly and relaxed, factions stick together and stay around longer, and wow a lot less squad fails. When there was a squad failure, people were more likely to work it out, try again, explain exactly what needed to be done if newbs, etc, without flying off the handle and quitting squad and yelling and calling them names in WC.

LC was actually more like this in the beginning (minus the name-calling), a lot of people were friendly and helpful in spite of the constant rpk and I do mean constant. It wasn't a question - it was a given, you were going to die if you left safezone. The only question was how many times. There was at least one guild very well known for their pvp / rpk activity that were pretty horrible at pve. But you'd kinda expect that on a pvp server.

Everyone was busy trying to level and gear up fast to get into one of the big name guilds because, among other things, that meant a degree of security while questing, and that was the only way to level back then, mainly on the open map. This started a division between the people that got there on the first day (a lot from PW-MY) and the people that started a few months later that had never seen PW before. After you learned the ins and outs, it was always a race to get to endgame, which back then was 70-80. It's worth noting that during this time, there was nothing in the cash shop to give you a great advantage other than (arguably) hp charms and dolls.

A year or more passed, then came FCC and BH and hypers, and somewhere along the line goons glitch, and voila, the first generation of power-hungry power levelers that didn't know much about how to play their chars effectively were born, and the division grew more. At the same time it forced people off the open map and there was a lot less pvp and rpk. The higher level people didn't really want to spend their time helping the newer ones because they spent all their time farming charms for TW, glitching goons in frost for their alts or guildies, and or generally seeking more power for themselves, a trait typical of pvp types. Myself included in the respect that, when BH first came out (remember there was only one at first) I cringed because I knew exactly how my time was going to be spent from now on, helping my guildies level up, because they all wanted to do BH. And rightly so, it was a good chunk of xp, so I did help them.

Somewhere around this time item linking was added to the game, so asking for weapon link was instantly adopted as a way to distinguish frost / hyper babies from the more old school (presumably better) players. For whatever illogical reason, probably because we are creatures of habit and imitation, it has stuck to this day.

With the addition of more BH, more ways to get hypers, new classes, cash shop items, op gear, packs out the wazoo, less ways to farm coin, and a thousand other changes to the game, the division between the end game and mid game players grew so huge that it put a lot of good mid game players off to the point that they quit, because in their eyes, endgame was now basically unattainable, if not the levels certainly the gear, and it surely didn't help that there were very few people available to help them with say, an fb39, when they needed it.

Now some of this surely is not unique to LC or any server for that matter, and there's a lot of broad generalizations, but hopefully this may provide some insight into our history and differences. Granted I am biased, certainly not the majority, and no expert by any means, but this is a brief glimpse of history the way I saw it. Failing all that, I hope you at least enjoyed reading my wall of text, I always enjoy a trip down nostalgia lane ^^

assumption is that you merged with LC? tell them to grow up....reason i quit LC is they were a bunch of idiots "lets get r9" then kill lvl30s =D so stronk. As for kicking for being blue, just **** for tat tbh is nothing that can be done about the stupidity i feel for you

Have the PvP servers proven to be more skilled in PvP? No
Have the PvE servers proven to be more knowledgable in PvE? No

People fail to realise the difference between PvE and PvP servers only exist outside of the safezone, ever since 2012 everything in PWI has been done from Archosaur, 99% of the people currently playing PWI dont even know what is outside of the safezone, with the only exception being Primal World and for very few people Morai, and whenever Im out there I gotta be lucky to even see anyone at all. There hasnt been a difference between PvE and PvP servers to begin with.


That aside, the thread makes no sense to me, it must be some american thing to get offended over something like this aswell....I suggest you just go with my attitude on this one...who fkn cares who does what because of what color someones name is, its a game, we're not killing someones firstborn here. If you dont wanna make a QQ thread, then dont make a thread about ''amusing scenarios'' while in reality you're just complaining that people act like idiots on a video game and ''discriminating''. This shjt happens, lets not get offended n play the victim of society