Endgame Wizard Guide

I suck at this game... dats not lying
b:shutupb:shutup

The point was you posted damage logs against players as indicia (google it) that you pk alot or know what you are talking about.

My questions to you show that your post proved nothing. It, as with your advice, is all just words.

Ask around on your server for a wizard that knows what they are doing. See who the high ranked pvp wizards are on your server and ask them for help. I've never heard of one refusing to do that.

Its better than random thoughts from someone that seems so self-impressed.

What about AA pants? Should we use the rank 8 pants or keep the old acrobatic pants for the +phys def?

oooh, a guide that makes some sense, exciting!


A quick note on the diminishing returns of garnet shards compared to citrines though, it's a fairly common thing I hear people say, but I don't think it's quite right

Say you have 50% pdef reduction, and add 1% to it, taking it to 51%. Then in a real situation you now take 49 damage instead of 50. That's actually decreased your damage taken by 2% (a 2000 hit would now deal 1960)
If you have 80% and increase it to 81%... you now take 19 damage instead of 20... so if someone would have hit you for 2000, they now hit for 1900. So that single % amounts to 5% damage reduction! So the returns are not quite as diminishing as people think.

Citrine shards taking you from 5k hp to 5.1k hp have added 2% to your hp... whereas 10k up to 10.1k has only added 1% hp.
In reality both citrine and garnets offer something of a diminishing return, and which to use would depend highly on your gear / ornaments etc.


Anyway, I don't really want to nit pick, because overall its a great guide. Reading through it I actually just found myself agreeing a lot! That's rare for me, lol.

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

Thanks for the critique Saedion. Adroit mentioned before that citrines also have diminishing returns, and that's why I threw in the sharding calculator.

Go citrines.

im a bit confused in something, i need a phy def cloack like the cloudcharger or i would go for the -6% chann like the lunar glade ???? same problem with helmet should i pick the ences scar (more phy def and hp) or the warsoul of heaven for the -3 chann ???

Xyara - Harshlands wrote: »

im a bit confused in something, i need a phy def cloack like the cloudcharger or i would go for the -6% chann like the lunar glade ???? same problem with helmet should i pick the ences scar (more phy def and hp) or the warsoul of heaven for the -3 chann ???

Depends of what gear you have and what you are aiming to have, always try to keep a balance and have at least a -30 chann.. here is a fast example of what I have (sorry for no shards and refines to lazy atm XD )

http://pwcalc.com/dbf2cfe6b87f0302

It's so, so nice to see an actual, informative, and helpful guide on wizzies being stickied as it should be, but I do have a few points for debate. Of course, you should also consider that everything I say comes from a Demon wizzy who has never actually bothered to go guild-hunting in her life, generally tries to avoid 1-on-1 PvP if and when she can, and never bothered to take off her NOOB label in 3 years of playing.

Firstly, gear costs. You're talking about +10 refines on everything like it's raining Dragon Orbs, and having lived and leveled in poverty for the vast majority of my PWI life, I certainly do think it is important to consider costs for wizzies who are too poor to afford gear that will allow them into Caster NV/GV/a guild that will give them still better gear. From personal experience, a single piece of NV gear can take months to farm solo, and that's if you're lucky enough to have good enough gear to farm. For wizzies stuck with HH 99 or below weapons, it can be damned-near impossible unless they have friends in high places. And of course, I am discounting the possibility of paying for rank, because as a teenager, I have no job, no credit card, and too much pride to pay.

Secondly, your strategies for fighting clerics, which I find somewhat lacking, but I do know full well that fighting clerics is one hell of an exercise in frustration. It might be possible to sleep --> seal/Occult Ice --> Sutra --> Get 20 more Chi --> Mountain's Seize/Blade Tempest, but there are just so many ways that could go wrong and it all depends on perfect timing, as well as requiring the cleric to be a brain-dead zombie who thinks AD refers to the year. There are not enough words in the English language to describe the Fury I feel when talking to a cleric who complains about not having enough DD when they have so many convienient control skills.

I heard demon wizzies were better at 1v1 style pvp, but even as a sage wiz we are pretty awesome. the reason why wiz aren't usually seen as a 1v1 class is b/c our ultis are all aoe and we lack inherent anti-cc skills

regardless, perhaps our most OP genie skill (spark) is definitely used for single target dps/dph and if you build such a spark genie, it'll probably include the anti-cc skills too, thus making the wiz much better at 1v1s

a trick you can use agains lower hp classes is poking around with pyro and seeing how much it hits... if through a combination of undine, spark, and pyro you can get the opponent to close to 1/2 hp, you can try to set up a 2-shot sutra-pyro-dpyro combo, which requires fast reaction times to counter if not immediately obvious. many times that ive used it when it seemed to be a viable option (speaking specifically regarding clerics), both shots landed before the game was able to register the stacked IH healing effect

yea in some versions where everyone has r9+12 josd that fact becomes more obvious, it's just impossible to kill cuz the wiz weapon and skills no longer dominate due to superb defenses that everyone has

my genie was built primarily for anti-cc due to our lack in that field... though supposedly arcane def can help a bit and now there is purify spell on a weapon (was it something 3rd cast?) anyways I'm not up to date on the new stuff

well im a demon wizard and since im onnly lvl 98 dont have most of the moves but in a duel i usually do Force of will then in that stun time i quickly use moutain seize for even more stun then i pyrogram then gush and they are dead... but if not i use will of the phoenix as well and crown of flame then no way they alive.

I wonder,
is there still no way to beat sin 1 v 1 , until now as a Wiz?
in condition : the same gear lvl, same char level, both decent player

b:question b:thanks

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

Wizards can certainly beat sins.. it seems to me that at end game wiz vs sin really just comes down to who can tank who better, and if both chars are maxed out.. imo the wiz has the advantage.

Wow...,
I think I fall in love with u b:cute
lol

This guide seems outdated. Is there a better one?