packs are evil with current settings

XX_Raider_Xx - Sanctuary

Maybe its just me but I hate packs and they hate me.

I hate opening them and seeing nothing but tokens after opening 100 packs.

I know the "high-end" stuff is supposed to be uber rare but current settings suck.

I know the "really nice" stuff is supposed to be rare but current settings suck.

I know the "tokens" are inevitable but the current settings suck.

I feel that packs have ruined the game and created a ""ELITE" group of only a few can afford stuff

I would like to see better drop rates than what we have now

Basically, any pack should have at most 75% tokens

leaving 25% for good, great, awesome, uber pro to drop

Opening 100 packs should look more like you opened 10,000 packs

Opening 1000 packs should look like you opened 100,000 packs

Now all you who will QQ about the massive flood of "stuff" causing prices to plummet I can appreciate your feelings as you have been fortunate to be able to sell your stuff and make huge sums of coins and thereby better yourself.

I just want to see more possibilites and more dynamic playing based on alot more people playing with better gears, shards, refines, whatever....

Game has been around for over 5 years and stuff has only gotten worse; ie gold prices, power-factions, etc.

Would just be nice to buy a 100 packs and get better drops than what settings are now.

please be respectful if you post a response

Salari - Raging Tide

100 packs is hardly enough to get a rare, but its enough to get nothing but rares. When you figure that out then you will understand

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver

It's simple: Don't buy packs at all.

Its a bad idea, just face it.

just don't buy them at all b:bye

Kaugummii - Morai

the fact is that when you say 25% good stuff that nearly is impossible for pwi because for the simple fact that 25% is a huge amount of luck the token is not for nothing called token of luck..

Of what I see is what you should remember is that with a rate of 25% every 4 packs you'd open you woukd have at least 1 good item. ...

This would crash the market and the gold price as then it can either go very high up or go that hard down that gold gets useless

Mosz - Heavens Tear

you basically suggesting a 10 times increase on % of non basic tokens, (even going as far to say 100 times, so lol enjoy 10m+gold) well then enjoy minimum 5mil gold, since just the P-TOBL will statistically make that worth it

great suggestion, 10*s will now be minimum 150m, platinum charms 25m+, sounds like a fun future!

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

100 packs is hardly enough to get a rare, but its enough to get nothing but rares. When you figure that out then you will understand

could say with 1000 pack too

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver

Not only packs in the "Perfect" world are low rate.

When we talk about chances and probabilities, if we have chances of like 30% its still game, when chances become nearly impossible (refer to 0.0005% scroll of tome) , then it becomes gambling.

As for refining with tishas and tienkangs, the rates are said to be about 30%~ even though, to get going and attain a sequel of at least 8 refines, the chances are very remote, well, statistically speaking.

If you're to buy 1000 tisha stones and 1000 mirages, roll all of them on an item (without rolling on 'dumb' items), I doubt you can reach anything above +4 with that.

And for refining, you can notice gigantic 14+ consecutive failure sequences, which much probably means the game itself has some "If this, then that" mechanics just to waste your money/items.

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If you're to buy 1000 tisha stones and 1000 mirages, roll all of them on an item (without rolling on 'dumb' items), I doubt you can reach anything above +4 with that.

what? just what, thats just absolutely absurd, if you want actual numbers look at https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=y0e299e4a4655f3b44ce9abd97c30b44b9ef7

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

what? just what, thats just absolutely absurd, if you want actual numbers look at https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=y0e299e4a4655f3b44ce9abd97c30b44b9ef7

You didn't understand what I said.

If you're to put tienkang stone, the item and roll it consecutively without switching items, you will need thousands and thousands of tienkangs and mirages to reach +12

The refining system of the game is dumb and silly, if you fail you lose it all. Refining Aids are uber expensive and unattainable from PvE (you can only buy from other players or directly from GShop), its gambling rather than gamming.

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You didn't understand what I said.

If you're to put tienkang stone, the item and roll it consecutively without switching items, you will need thousands and thousands of tienkangs and mirages to reach +12

The refining system of the game is dumb and silly, if you fail you lose it all. Refining Aids are uber expensive and unattainable from PvE (you can only buy from other players or directly from GShop), its gambling rather than gamming.

in one post you say you cant get +4, now you say +12, thats one hell of a difference-completely different arguement, refining aids..except the practically free tisha/tienkang we had from DQ for years

and yes it would take 1000s to get +12, actually using the spreadsheet you can see if using pure tienkangs it would take roughly 30k tienkang+30kmirage to +12

on the other hand +4 would take about on average 10

Salari - Raging Tide

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

in one post you say you cant get +4, now you say +12, thats one hell of a difference-completely different arguement, refining aids..except the practically free tisha/tienkang we had from DQ for years

and yes it would take 1000s to get +12, actually using the spreadsheet you can see if using pure tienkangs it would take roughly 30k tienkang+30kmirage to +12

on the other hand +4 would take about on average 10

That reply just show's you have no idea what he is talking about. You are posting odd's he is posting about override's in the game code.

heerohex#3018

Based on the Thread comments and the Poll Votes I can see this does not have the support needed for me to log this as a suggestion. I personally think they are ok the way they are for now at least.

So im not going to Log this.

Thanks,

dejiavu

The packs two years ago always had good stuff in them. I have noticed now that they have 99.5 tokens. They are all really bad. I spend a lot of money on this game yet I see cat shops with 10 dragon orbs, elite fliers, tons of things for sale for multi-millions. I bought a 100 pack and got a spirit charm and tokens. With the exception of a couple items the fashions are all the same old junk--PWI Boutique Lady has the same old junk for tokens. Two years ago you got all the R8 gear with 200k rep. Now you get a few pieces and have to get 100 candies that cost 2 wine tokens for each piece for the other 3 pieces. Shame on PWI's pure greed.

WannaBM - Archosaur

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You didn't understand what I said.

If you're to put tienkang stone, the item and roll it consecutively without switching items, you will need thousands and thousands of tienkangs and mirages to reach +12

The refining system of the game is dumb and silly, if you fail you lose it all. Refining Aids are uber expensive and unattainable from PvE (you can only buy from other players or directly from GShop), its gambling rather than gamming.

You talk about swiching items, that only proves you are a supersticious person who believes in tales and does not understand logic and reason. Using the words dumb and silly directly after that is kind of funny.

I tisha/tienking all my stuff to +8 or +9, purely based on reason and logic supplied by an excel sheet. No duke blacke or any other supersticious BS.

Complaining about packs is also BS. Its the market that makes the price of what comes out of them. If you like gambling, you may like your chances and buy packs. If you dont, dont buy packs. really simple.