ΦMalefic Crush/ ΩMalefic Crush question

SanChan - Heavens Tear
SanChan - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Venomancer
Hi folks, since the last update we are able to check out skills if we create a new toon. I recreatet a veno for fun and saw that the skill ΦMalefic Crush got a 12 sek cd but on the skill previews Asterelle made the skill got a 180cd. Since the other skills u can preview have cds like the real versions I want to know if Malefic Crush might have a 12sek cd and not a 180 cd as mentioned in the skill preview. If it has 12sek cd i consider taking it next b:laugh hope anyone can tell me something about it ty in advanceb:thanksb:thanks
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The newbie area skills are modified specifically for that area so they aren't very accurate to the actual skills. For instance, Parasitic Nova has 200% weapon damage in the newbie area but is 300% normally. The real upgraded Malefic Crush's cooldown is most likely 180 seconds.
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  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The newbie area skills are modified specifically for that area so they aren't very accurate to the actual skills. For instance, Parasitic Nova has 200% weapon damage in the newbie area but is 300% normally. The real upgraded Malefic Crush's cooldown is most likely 180 seconds.

    180 second cooldown for a 2 second paralyze + costs two sparks :/ That seems.. much more balanced than BMs 7.5/15cd second paralyze >>;
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  • SanChan - Heavens Tear
    SanChan - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I know that they are modified but the cd of the other skills stay the same. Nova has a 30 sec cd and why should they alter them so much. And if u think about the skill its a 1 spark AoE stun with a 180 cd ? thats way out of balance if u compare it with other classes. A 1 spark 12 sek cd skill is way more logical since u have to go into close combat to use that skill.
  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Two minute cooldown for Malefic....? *facedesk*
    Great, it already took long enough to get out of cooldown, now it's cooldown is four times as long :x which kind of makes it seem almost pointless... so much for 'I'm glad none of the veno skills have controversial things about upgrading them for sages'.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Uhh, it says stun though o_o don't think it's a paralyze. Does the newbie skill stun or paralyze? I didn't check.

    Well, another thing to consider is that we get the skill Redstone with it's animation but the icon is Ironwood's...I just don't trust the newbie skills to be accurate xD

    I'll get Malefic Crush myself but that's the last skill I'll probably get. Passive skills > the rest anyway.

    I wish they had made the Fox Form skills more interesting to be honest. I'm not asking for OP but these changes aren't all that epic, I'm just trying to look on the bright side and see their potential uses. I guess Malefic Crush will be interesting if it is indeed a paralyze.
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  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Uhh, it says stun though o_o don't think it's a paralyze. Does the newbie skill stun or paralyze? I didn't check.

    Well, another thing to consider is that we get the skill Redstone with it's animation but the icon is Ironwood's...I just don't trust the newbie skills to be accurate xD

    I'll get Malefic Crush myself but that's the last skill I'll probably get. Passive skills > the rest anyway.

    I wish they had made the Fox Form skills more interesting to be honest. I'm not asking for OP but these changes aren't all that epic, I'm just trying to look on the bright side and see their potential uses. I guess Malefic Crush will be interesting if it is indeed a paralyze.

    The description on the books in the cauldron forge say 'paralyze' however the descriptions for all of the skills there are tbh a tad derpy and not informative.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yeah best way to find out is when someone learns and tries it lol. It's gonna take a while until I get there as my priority is the passives.
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  • SanChan - Heavens Tear
    SanChan - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Since I dont PvP that often I sacri myself and learn that skill b:laugh 50 blood to go b:cry btw 2 bloods per day is bsb:angry
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Since I dont PvP that often I sacri myself and learn that skill b:laugh 50 blood to go b:cry btw 2 bloods per day is bsb:angry

    We shall remember your sacrifice!
    We should get more blood after we unlock the Final Seal though f:cute but yeah right now it sucks.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    A friend that learnt Malefic Crush confirmed that it's a Paralyze. He tested it on me in a duel. The immunity is there but lasts for like...a second or less. New Malefic Crush has new animation which is more subtle making it pretty nice for sneaking it into groups (especially in TW).

    I might make a thread about it later, in the same style as my Redstone/Grudge Strike ones but I'll have to see if he has time for me to record.
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  • SanChan - Heavens Tear
    SanChan - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    uhm ok nice and what about the cd of the skill is it 180 sek or 12 sek like the preview skill ??
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It's 180 seconds.
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  • SanChan - Heavens Tear
    SanChan - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    meh lol, well time to learn passives then ;)
  • Ilyania - Lost City
    Ilyania - Lost City Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    So the new Paralyze status it has is like the bm/barb one?
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  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    So the new Paralyze status it has is like the bm/barb one?

    A certain manic veno in guild learnt it yesterday, I'll ask when servers go back up

    Would be sexy if it was akin to bm paralyze.. nomnom.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It is Paralyze, I can confirm that through a friend that learnt it already.

    Downside is that it's only 2 seconds but upside is that it's AOE so it was probably meant as a skill for teamwork. You'll barely manage to switch forms in 2 seconds but an Archer might have time to set up Barrage.

    I don't have it yet (kinda leaning towards getting Stunning Blow first) but I think it has potential uses, especially in TW and perhaps something nice to throw in on the flag carrier in NW if they are a caster.
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