A proposal for G17

XX_Raider_Xx - Sanctuary
XX_Raider_Xx - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
edited January 2014 in Suggestion Box
Everything has gone crazy since Rebirth. New skills, new damage, new potential. But sadly the only thing that hasnt evolved is gears. I hear often "R9.3 or GTFO!!!!" This is too elitist and penalizes non-cash shoppers. The beginings of this game was farm, farm, farm, and upgrade.

Those of us that dont have tons of money need a gear evolution that puts us on the same level as R9.3 even if its farmable its more than being told "you are only G16 and therefore suck"

My proposal is costly but workable

G17

Melee Weapons

* Must be +10 or better (no cost to transfer +10 or better)
* 2 sockets (100% chance)
* 10% increase in base damage stats
* 50 attack Levels (100%)
* 5 variable/ Random stats same as G16 (addition of 1 stat over G16's 4 stats)
* No package benefits with Armors (similar to R9.3 weapons)
* Chance to get one of the following: God of Frenzy, Spirit Blackhole, Def Lvls +15-25, Square Formation, Thunder Strike
* Gear would look same but have Red aura (Demon) or Gold Aura (Sage)
* Gear would be unbound and have to be re-bound with boutique item

COST = 12 Summerwind Tokens (3 x R9.3 of 4 summerwind tokens) + 30 mil Fee

Magic Weapons

* Must be +10 or better (no cost to transfer +10 or better)
* 2 sockets (100% chance)
* 10% increase in base damage stats
* 50 attack Levels (100%)
* 5 variable/ Random stats same as G16 (addition of 1 stat over G16's 4 stats)
* No package bonus with Armors (similar to R9.3 weapons)
* Chance to get one of the following: Purify, Infinite, Def Lvls +15-25, Channeling -10%
* Gear would look same but have Red aura (Demon) or Gold Aura (Sage)
* Gear would be unbound and have to be re-bound with boutique item

COST = 12 Summerwind Tokens (3 x cost of R9.3 of 4 summerwind tokens) + 30 mil Fee

*** Spendy but Farmable thanks to NW ***


*** Another suggestion is to revamp Nirvana for farming but with higher chance to drop rapts and cannies by about 4x drops (non-tradeable so it doesn't flood market but can be used in conjunction with tradeable drops)***


Now because I am a Blademaster, I am only going to list the Heavy Armors but if you change strength to dexterity for Light or to magic for arcane then it still works.

Additionally, if you change Magic def to Physical def depending on other gear requirements it still works. And instead of interval >> channeling.

Basics

* 3 or 4 Sockets (50/50 chance)
* Must be +10 or better (no cost to transfer +10 or better)
* 10 % increase in base defense stats
* Package bonus similar to G16

COST = 3 Summerwind Tokens (3 x R9.3 of 1 summerwind tokens) + 20 mil Fee


Heavy Armors

Heavy Arms
Would have following stats with variables

* Strength +15 - 25
* Vitality +15 - 25
* Interval -.05 - 1.0
* Reduce Magic Damage +5-15%
* Magic Defense +5 - 15%

Heavy Plate
Would have following stats with variables

* Strength +15 - 25
* Vitality +200 - 300 HP
* Max Hp + 5%
* Reduce Magic Damage +5-15%
* Physical Defense +5-15%

Heavy Pants
Would have following stats with variables

* Strength +15 - 25
* Vitality +200 - 300 HP
* Crit +3-6
* Reduce Magic Damage +5-15%
* Magic Defense +5-15%

Heavy Boots
Would have following stats with variables

* Strength +15 - 25
* Vitality +15 - 25
* Movement Speed +3 m/s
* Reduce Magic Damage +5-15%
* Physical Defense +5 -15%

Heavy Helm
Would have following stats with variables

* Vitality +15-25
* Strength +15-25
* Dexterity +15-25
* Reduce Magic Damage +5-15%

Heavy Cape
Would have following stats with variables

* Evasion +350-500
* Vitality +15-25
* Strength +15-25
* Dexterity +15-25
* Magic Defense +5-15%


This is just a thought that i feel would allow non-cash shoppers to run NW for tokens/ rapts cannies and then if Nirvana would have higher drops then it would be farmable and therefore doable.

This needs to happen before G16 geared players decide to give up and quit the game - then all that will be left in this game is a bunch of R9.3

Balance is key in anything!!!
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Comments

  • Crixxix - Raging Tide
    Crixxix - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hmm... I think this is pretty decent, although I'm not 100% sure yet. I'm pretty tired, so I'll wind up reading it again tomorrow morning lol.
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    R999 gear is still g16 ranked gear, So instead of g17, just an upgrade to g16 nirvana, give it red text instead of gold.
    I figured when they released next upgrade for nirvana, it would be something like 55 attack levels, and regular purge, regular zerk, or r8r purify spell which had a lesser proc rate then r999 one. Rank gear is supposed to be the pinnacle of gear, so it makes sense that it should hold better procs over g16.
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    But sadly the only thing that hasnt evolved is gears.

    Did you mean: But gladly the only things that haven't evolved are gears?

    I'm so sick of gear always getting new fancy updates and making people start over all over again to get things, and was very glad these updates did not include new gear. :x

    I don't really see why anyone would want new gear all over again... f:confused But then again my other home game isn't gear-oriented so I'm not swamped with it being the only way of mentality all the time...
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  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,880 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    Sorry I have been looking at this thread. Just had to think about what I wanted to say first.

    I'm gonna say im not gonna log this. Reasons Below.

    R9 + Gears where always meant to be stronger than standard gears hence the reason they are. Also at the moment G17 gears are not possible due to Game Set-up and Limitations It would require a lot of work to code this which im sure if the future. After saying that you now realise why we don't have R10 but have R9S2 R9S3 after all this was an easy way round the problem. I believe with the above reason the gears are comparable with in reason as well. Lastly I think and im guessing here but I would say the player-base would like bugs fixed before they explore a new grade of weapons.

    As always I will say this is not official word and im open to reasoning. As I feel this is will be part of the future of the game we will see where this goes. Ill keep this in my notes as well.
  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm not fully satisfied by recent updates but I must say than trying to add new ways (meridians, titles, cards) to boost stats instead of changing gears was a good idea.
    And you can see more and more R9 people wvo didn't CS. This is more difficult than CS (and maybe not that interesting to farm that much money) but this is possible and PWE will always favorize CSers to full farmers anyway.
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    ~ Sage vita Barb 103-102-101 ~
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    ~ Sage Seeker 101 ~ Sage Psy 101 ~
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  • XX_Raider_Xx - Sanctuary
    XX_Raider_Xx - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    if you go by the design numbers G16 = R9.2 +/-

    Then the devs went crazy with R9.3 and made the gears seriously powerful and able to take and deal massive damage. I do realize that the devs created R9.3 to be the best and circumvent re-coding for R10. This was designed to make money and appeal to the power-hungry players. This was a business decision.

    All I am saying is that another recast of G16 or G17 with some similar upgrades could be cool for all who don't have the resources to go R9.?

    As you can see the modifications are less than the R9.3 - I designed my ideas around a combination of R9.2-3 and R8R and again its just a suggestion for the powers that be to play with-

    PWI is made and maintained on money and anything that makes money for the game is "good business" - rather than the multitude of packs we get or events that dont work or whatever people tend to QQ about My suggestion would allow people a chance to "make or farm their gears and have something to do" and then be able to make a decent stand against Full R9.3 +12 full JOSDs or whatever the standard is where you hear on world chat

    "have this, this, and that or GTFO"

    Games are played for fun and when has been getting ganked fun? Perfect world isnt perfect but we make due because we like the game and we like the friends we have or have made.

    My suggestion for G17 is only an attempt to propose to revamp G17 and allow other options like the Nirvana instance.