Am i being realistic with myself?

KurtCobian - Harshlands

http://pwcalc.com/2c5c11ba0a48b00a

so what is the chance of getting sac and double int? i know sac is basiclly a given since it's 46.5% chance to give but the doublt int not so much what how many rolls do i need estiamted to get that roll? and im saying this cuz im not going to get g16 dagger any time soon and raps are cheap from NW.

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

The odds of getting that roll assuming I've done my maths right is

0.465 x 0.05 x 0.05 = 0.0011625 = ~0.1% so in theory if you did 1000 rolls you should get one.

Good luck. My advice would be get any half decent roll and G16 it.

So the question is why do you say you're not going G16 anytime soon?

MyMate - Dreamweaver

My math is kinda rusty but assuming I got it right the chance of getting Sac + 2x -int is ~1/615 (or ~0.116%) while getting a G16 dagger with 2x -int + random add would be ~1/45 (or 2.25%).

That would be on average 250 + 4298 = 4548 raps to get a G15 dagger with the stats you want xD
On the other hand you can get it almost straight away. I rolled a G15 bow with 2x-int+Purge, which got the same chance as the G15 dagger, in ~50 tries (I still haven't got the Spirit Blackhole I want after ~70 tries QQ)

Anyway, if you got that kind of money you might as well buy the G16 2x -int daggers from someone and get a better weapon xD

(assuming of course I got the math right b:surrender)

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

(assuming of course I got the math right b:surrender)

sounds good yeah. around 270m, way more expensive than g16-int, a bit cheaper than g16-int plus pangu and a bit lower dps (+annoying hp loss).

tl;dr @OP: get g16 daggers

waiiiiiit. why on earth do you have the r6 chest and not r8, it's 2013
also, g16 LA helm is better than the g15 despite the set bonus

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

also, g16 LA helm is better than the g15 despite the set bonus

I have this problem on my archer, have made an extra G16 set with some smexy stats, yet to refine/shard, but sentimental over my G15 LA hat and cape that I'm still wearing as its +10 JoSD b:cry

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I have this problem on my archer, have made an extra G16 set with some smexy stats, yet to refine/shard, but sentimental over my G15 LA hat and cape that I'm still wearing as its +10 JoSD b:cry

yeah, got g15 la+10 on sin (although no josd). I'd keep the g15 XD

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Quite a few ppl on DW have those daggers.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Quite a few ppl on DW have those daggers.

that's true. so perhaps it will be worth buying one of those (typically they were made before r9/g16)

Moon_breeze - Dreamweaver

I have the daggers for my sin, I wasnt even trying to get them stats I made the G15 to take to G16 one day (sin is only lvl 90 so no rush) first roll had MP and Mag, so decided to give a go as only 7 raps .. got mag again, try again SS, int, int b:victory ... so maybe you can be lucky too b:chuckle

Ursa - Dreamweaver

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yeah, got g15 la+10 on sin (although no josd). I'd keep the g15 XD

are those dex stats on the G16 worth the +5 attk level loss for aps sins?
I'm just asking....I'm in a worst situation because I have a +10 WoE with 3 perfect citrines... (I know, I know, ok ? it's 2 years old at least)

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

are those dex stats on the G16 worth the +5 attk level loss for aps sins?
I'm just asking....I'm in a worst situation because I have a +10 WoE with 3 perfect citrines... (I know, I know, ok ? it's 2 years old at least)

so, attack wise it's 1% crit + 9dex + 5 attack lvls vs 20 dex (and the +1% crit).
so no, the g15 hat would be better. however, if we consider the defenses, if the g16 hat has +2% pdmg reduction + the vit add makes it a tiiny bit better than the g15 hat if we sum everything up. and then you have the base hp stat+refines; at +10 you'll get 109 more hp.

all in all, going from g15 to g16 will sacrifice a bit of your damage for a defense boost (larger than the lost dmg) and then gain 109 more hp. the big bonus would be if you compo it will another piece of gear for the 700hp set bonus and because with it you can complete a g16 armor for pvp or the g16 cape+hat set for pvp if you are r9rr.

Salari - Raging Tide

i suggest going with the g16 ha cape/hat set even more so if you are going r9s3 end game. Quite a bit more defenses for min damage loss. You are only talking 50 dex loss in pve which you can make up for with a upgraded tome or tome and engraving.

I will tell you about reroll's, I have made 3 sets of daggers with dbl int, first took 6-7 rolls on g16's, second took 1 roll with g16 last one took over 200 on g15 niv. You are better off just trying for one int and save yourself some headaches. You could get it on the first try or still be rerolling when the game is finally taken offline

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

are those dex stats on the G16 worth the +5 attk level loss for aps sins?
I'm just asking....I'm in a worst situation because I have a +10 WoE with 3 perfect citrines... (I know, I know, ok ? it's 2 years old at least)

Ermm G16 is defensive option. It's not based on class, its based on what you want for your toon, sorry but i have a pet peeve when ppl think things are class specific. I'm gonna tell you tho, for any class, the defensive option of G16 out weights the loss of a mere 5 atk lvs, and the dex is better for crit/wep mutipliers, not only that, you get vit, more hp at the same refines, and %reduction on phy damage (not too great but it something).

Ursa - Dreamweaver

thanks for the input.
I'm not decided yet what to go with. My sin is pure PvE aps build, never has/will be used for PvP so that's why I'm inclined to go with the 5 attk level bonus on the G15, though going in that direction I just pretty much throw a +10 refine out the window ....
I'll have to think about this really well.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

thanks for the input.
I'm not decided yet what to go with. My sin is pure PvE aps build, never has/will be used for PvP so that's why I'm inclined to go with the 5 attk level bonus on the G15, though going in that direction I just pretty much throw a +10 refine out the window ....
I'll have to think about this really well.

Henostly for a farming sin the WoE is just fine. Id get a tome so you can reset a bit of str tho.