Should I go Rank 8 or the Morai gear set ?

MistressAni - Raging Tide

I'm been trying to debate what to do and I'd really like some advice please. My mystic is used purely for pve purposes. I've heard some people said the Morai set is good enough and others have told me head for rank 8 so I'm just as confused as I began.

Thank you for any advice or suggestions given in advance.

Night$aber - Dreamweaver

As far as i am concerned morai is cheaper but takes the around 2 months of doing dailies until you get your 5k prestige.
If you feel like you're healing more than DDing and sometimes like to duel or whatever (though you implied pure pve) then go R8.
If you feel like you're leaning towards the DD part I'd suggest going morai path since it offers higher damage+somewhat more defense due to warding levels.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

The armor is kind of so-so, since warding levels lose effectiveness as your opponent's level gets higher. Since [?] mobs are one of the most commonly fought enemies these days (and pretty much the only ones that can be lethal at all), warding levels quickly lose their usefulness in everyday use. The armor has quite poor defensive stats as well as blue stats that aren't very good, either.

The weapon is pretty good, it's even okay at healing at a high refine. Even with mediocre refines you can still heal, but you'd rely on Vital Herb a bit more (since it doesn't depend on your m.attk.). Only then you'd still have armor to worry about, which doesn't make this option that much cheaper at all.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

I would say R8 will make your life easier, more easy to find squad cause many people don't take people with morai weapon and if one day you change your mind and want to PvP or TW you wont need to farm a new set.

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As far as i am concerned morai is cheaper but takes the around 2 months of doing dailies until you get your 5k prestige.
If you feel like you're healing more than DDing and sometimes like to duel or whatever (though you implied pure pve) then go R8.
If you feel like you're leaning towards the DD part I'd suggest going morai path since it offers higher damage+somewhat more defense due to warding levels.

Actually you need 5 months if you want to get both things, because you need to move from one order to another...

I am pretty sure you can get around 100 mill in less than 5 months to buy R8, so go for R8.

akosireann

Any healer class with any Morai wep of any level should be shot in the face.

No caster nirv squad will take you seriously

tweakz

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

Actually you need 5 months if you want to get both things, because you need to move from one order to another...

I am pretty sure you can get around 100 mill in less than 5 months to buy R8, so go for R8.

^^ this partly, but why is R8 the only other option? Nirvana gears are stash-able, and Lunar Nirvana is sell-able. People generally go rank 8 for the shirt, and ring then get the weapon to save coin. The shirt really isn't a big deal to Mystics because of our fast channeling skills. The weapon is expensive to upgrade while Nirvana S2 weapon is cheaply made into S3 (comparable to R9).

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

akosireann wrote: »

Any healer class with any Morai wep of any level should be shot in the face.

No caster nirv squad will take you seriously

Morai G15 has a base attack of only slightly under R8. Healers already overheal massivly, so 3 or 4 refines under a rank8 weapon is more than good enough.

Or are you one of those people that reject G16 without interval sins but demand G13 for 5aps instead?

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Morai G15 has a base attack of only slightly under R8. Healers already overheal massivly, so 3 or 4 refines under a rank8 weapon is more than good enough.

Or are you one of those people that reject G16 without interval sins but demand G13 for 5aps instead?

Actually the base attack is exactly the same as TT99, but it refines like R8. But your point still stands anyway, you can heal just fine with it.

For the same cost as just blank R8 you could even get it to +10 on an orb sale, which puts the base damage on-par with r8+5, but the damage would of course be 50% higher.

The weapon can also roll some seriously nice HP stats (like +54 vit or +1050 hp) at a rather high rate, which is also quite beneficial to a healer.

kawaiijen

Morai G15 is sufficient for all of your PvE purposes.

Since you don't plan on PvPing, the G15 Morai weapon is MORE then sufficient for healing in ALL PvE instances as well as it's a more powerful weapon for killing as you're not strictly a heal only class.

arkman

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Morai G15 has a base attack of only slightly under R8. Healers already overheal massivly, so 3 or 4 refines under a rank8 weapon is more than good enough.

Or are you one of those people that reject G16 without interval sins but demand G13 for 5aps instead?

he/she is partly right on the caster nirv point though, i have all morai caster weps (95, the EU 100, 101) and even if my heals (on 100 and 101morai, 95 is just shtty) and attacks are enough for most bh runs I do I was forced to get a r8 wep to farm caster for my skill upgrades (those pages cost a pretty penny and most crafted books can cost an arm and a leg game wise especially for the demon bm i'm building).

I do aim for a full nirv set armor for my melees and casters to share upon. The initial investment for r8 may be a bit painful at first but it does pay the bills with nirvy so to speak

I do look forward to what some people are saying of putting the warsoul mats in packs though, it's kinda boring seeing the same rank set time and again

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

arkman wrote: »

he/she is partly right on the caster nirv point though, i have all morai caster weps (95, the EU 100, 101) and even if my heals (on 100 and 101morai, 95 is just shtty) and attacks are enough for most bh runs I do I was forced to get a r8 wep to farm caster for my skill upgrades (those pages cost a pretty penny and most crafted books can cost an arm and a leg game wise especially for the demon bm i'm building).

I do aim for a full nirv set armor for my melees and casters to share upon. The initial investment for r8 may be a bit painful at first but it does pay the bills with nirvy so to speak

I do look forward to what some people are saying of putting the warsoul mats in packs though, it's kinda boring seeing the same rank set time and again

Yea, it's sad how stupid some people are.
The example I gave, rejecting G16 in favor of G13 with 5aps, really exists. And there are a LOT of people that do it. Somehow they forget that G16 basicly doubles your dmg per hit, easely making up for the 20% less dmg you deal with 4APS vs 5APS.

The same goes for G15 morai. It's better than R8 is every way except healing, and for healing it's still more than enough. What good is a G16 +12 cleric when one with a TT99 weapon still heals you to full?

thumbs

KawaiiJen wrote: »

Morai G15 is sufficient for all of your PvE purposes.

Since you don't plan on PvPing, the G15 Morai weapon is MORE then sufficient for healing in ALL PvE instances as well as it's a more powerful weapon for killing as you're not strictly a heal only class.

Is a full rank 9, well refined / imbued toon (good defense) going to notice weak heals?

Mystic pets benefit from attack levels which come with rank 9 and S3 (significant effect in RB, Caster Nirvana, VoS, etc).