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Niteshadows - Harshlands
Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Assassin
Okay, in a fight against an HA opponent how does it stack up damage wise? Let's say I'm fighting someone wearing HA R8 or HA Nirvana. What kind of damage am I looking at while auto attacking?b:thanks

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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    That's gonna depend on a lot of factors. Such as:
    Which HA (Barbs, BMs and Seekers all take very different amounts of damage)
    What kind of refine on the BTN
    What kind of refine and ornaments on the HA
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    To give you an idea, a +10 Barrier Thorn Nirvana hits about 300-500 damage per hit with my current gear, which is more or less full r9 minus the legs and boots.

    So I'd guesstimate somewhere around 400ish per hit if it's just against R8 HA or T1-T2 Nirvana HA.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    To give you an idea, a +10 Barrier Thorn Nirvana hits about 300-500 damage per hit with my current gear, which is more or less full r9 minus the legs and boots.

    So I'd guesstimate somewhere around 400ish per hit if it's just against R8 HA or T1-T2 Nirvana HA.

    Isn't that kinda low considering HA toons have 8k+hp? D:

    I'm guessing this is the part where someone says..."Don't go aps on HA in pvp..."?
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Isn't that kinda low considering HA toons have 8k+hp? D:

    I'm guessing this is the part where someone says..."Don't go aps on HA in pvp..."?

    When you make that 400 4 times per second, that's 1600. Which means all you need is 5 seconds of it to kill someone.

    And hey look, Headhunt lasts 5 seconds! Oh my, Occult Ice is 6 seconds!
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  • kawaiijen
    kawaiijen Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    When you make that 400 4 times per second, that's 1600. Which means all you need is 5 seconds of it to kill someone.

    And hey look, Headhunt lasts 5 seconds! Oh my, Occult Ice is 6 seconds!

    Well technically it would be closer to 10 seconds since you have to also tick their charm.

    But oh wait Occult ice and headhunt last 11 seconds together! b:chuckle
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  • Niteshadows - Harshlands
    Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Thanks guys, now I somewhat have an idea on how high I should refine Barrier Thorn.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    KawaiiJen wrote: »
    Well technically it would be closer to 10 seconds since you have to also tick their charm.

    But oh wait Occult ice and headhunt last 11 seconds together! b:chuckle

    What happens when they use faith as their charm ticks...and to be a bit more difficult what happens when the toon in question is well refined...b:chuckle
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    What if the toon is a bm, uses phy marrow and is brambled b:chuckle? Or a barb and uses demon roar?

    I presume this is why zerk, crit become important in pvp?
  • kawaiijen
    kawaiijen Posts: 0 Arc User
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    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    What happens when they use faith as their charm ticks...and to be a bit more difficult what happens when the toon in question is well refined...b:chuckle
    Well the OP asked about a player in average gear. I kinda doubt they will have that much amazing hp(maybe 14k tops buffed). I was just teasing Olba since he forgot about the whole charm ticking thing.
    Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What if the toon is a bm, uses phy marrow and is brambled b:chuckle? Or a barb and uses demon roar?

    I presume this is why zerk, crit become important in pvp?

    As much as I love bramble they can just maze steps and ironguard. That and the fact Bramble doesn't work in open world PvP sadly.

    They can use Thorn for water damage against the BM or this is where Bramble Rage can hit some nasty damage. I've had a 21k on a pmarrowed BM with it before. They went squish. b:chuckle
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  • Niteshadows - Harshlands
    Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Well I think this topic is veering off course. All I want to know is how much damage will a Sin with +10 BTN be doing on a decently refined BM, Barb or Seeker.
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  • pescadote
    pescadote Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    why don't you just hit a few and see.... ???

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