Remove Nirvana and Frost once and for all...

Michael_Dark - Lost City
Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
edited March 2012 in General Discussion
Because that's all that this game is about now. It's pretty pathetic.

b:bye
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  • __ian__ - Heavens Tear
    __ian__ - Heavens Tear Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Because that's all that this game is about now. It's pretty pathetic.

    b:bye

    Darn was gonna ask if you wanted to help lvl my Alt in FF b:chuckle
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  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Because that's all that this game is about now. It's pretty pathetic.

    b:bye

    I'm going to have to agree. But I feel it is pointless, PWE nor Beijing will ever listen to us.
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Because that's all that this game is about now. It's pretty pathetic.

    b:bye

    Why stop there?

    Let's also remove hypers, oracles, tokens and all associated token products. Oh, and feel free to keep the mats for R9 in the boutique, but remove the rep sale and never put it back in.


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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Why stop there?

    Let's also remove hypers, oracles, tokens and all associated token products. Oh, and feel free to keep the mats for R9 in the boutique, but remove the rep sale and never put it back in.


    b:cute

    Good points, and I agree wholeheartedly. b:chuckle
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  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Yea let everyone, who has Nv gear keep their equipment and remove nirvana.

    Hurr durr.. [edited] b:bye
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Remove the game and sell single player versions.


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  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Remove the game and sell single player versions.


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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yea let everyone, who has Nv gear keep their equipment and remove nirvana.

    Hurr durr.. idiot b:bye

    [edited]

    Nirvana gear is useless. It's absolutely unnecessary for PvE and R9 demolishes it for PvP. Farm PvE gear in the new instance with Warding levels.

    [edited]

    b:bye
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  • MyuMyu - Harshlands
    MyuMyu - Harshlands Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    *throws a brick to this Thread*
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    MyuMyu - Harshlands wrote: »
    *throws a brick to this Thread*

    *ducks*
  • RageKill - Lost City
    RageKill - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I do agree that nirvana and frost have become a huge part of the game. And to be fair we could all get along without nirvana cast gear. Still could achieve decent APS without.

    But now that its in it ain't going nowhere unless PW wants a massive player base loss.

    I hate frost so much. I spent lots of time in there at 85+ and now i dread ever going in there. I haven't helped faction mates in frost but twice since i hit 100. If they ask for a normal instance or an open world quest help i'm right there instantly.
  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    [Edited]

    Nirvana gear is useless. It's absolutely unnecessary for PvE and R9 demolishes it for PvP. Farm PvE gear in the new instance with Warding levels.

    [Edited]

    b:bye

    useless hm? Oh ok so thats how you call the second best PvP gear in the game now.
    Useless... heh somehow ironic, that in some threads, they say CS is bad and noobish but here, you want to delete all the gear, that can.. "compare"? no not compare but its the best equipment you can get except rank stuff.

    Oh boy, the QQ in these forums is TOO DAMN HIGH b:laugh
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    might as well remove all instances while ur at it
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »
    useless hm? Oh ok so thats how you call the second best PvP gear in the game now.
    Useless... heh somehow ironic, that in some threads, they say CS is bad and noobish but here, you want to delete all the gear, that can.. "compare"? no not compare but its the best equipment you can get except rank stuff.

    Oh boy, the QQ in these forums is TOO DAMN HIGH b:laugh

    R9 Recast > R9 > R8 Recast > Nirvana 2nd stage > R8 > Nirvana 1st stage > TT99

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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Vixter - Harshlands wrote: »
    might as well remove all instances while ur at it

    True, true.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »
    useless hm? Oh ok so thats how you call the second best PvP gear in the game now.
    Useless... heh somehow ironic, that in some threads, they say CS is bad and noobish but here, you want to delete all the gear, that can.. "compare"? no not compare but its the best equipment you can get except rank stuff.

    Oh boy, the QQ in these forums is TOO DAMN HIGH b:laugh

    This:
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    R9 Recast > R9 > R8 Recast > Nirvana 2nd stage > R8 > Nirvana 1st stage > TT99


    And, I guess the sarcasm in my original post wasn't thick enough to break through that bone head of yours. b:chuckle
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  • gyroki
    gyroki Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark is pathetic, every1 in forum and on lc server knows it (even the CS boys of his faction know it) , only he himself dont know it. He's just in an inactive faction which is posing with their r9/+12 gear whole day in south archo.

    He's one of those skilless failed lifes that CSed away with the money obtained from daddy/welfare system a view years ago. And now he's pissed off cz hes bored. U never c him in-game but 24h/day in forum.

    He even dont know that ppl want nv gear cz
    1. gear is tradable by account stash
    2. there is no rank helmet + robe and set bonus gives +5 attack lvls,
    so almost every r9 has it too
    3. 5aps 2nd cast nv dagger with ss and int out damage every r9
    4. it makes sense to trade magic weapons for your mystic/cleric/wizz/veno so u dont
    have to repeat all the refines.
    5. Barbs like nv dual axes, cz look matters.


    He's just a wannabe who constructs his own world/history. He want to believe. He just dont want to deal with reality, it would be a pain for him.


    Btw only casters do nv at 1x drop.. he would know it when he would play the game.
  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »
    useless hm? Oh ok so thats how you call the second best PvP gear in the game now.
    Useless... heh somehow ironic, that in some threads, they say CS is bad and noobish but here, you want to delete all the gear, that can.. "compare"? no not compare but its the best equipment you can get except rank stuff.

    Oh boy, the QQ in these forums is TOO DAMN HIGH b:laugh
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    R9 Recast > R9 > R8 Recast > Nirvana 2nd stage > R8 > Nirvana 1st stage > TT99

    C'mon now baby panda. Kiss me big boy. b:kiss

    Kill me pls b:victory
  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    gyroki wrote: »
    Michael_Dark is pathetic, every1 in forum and on lc server knows it (even the CS boys of his faction know it) , only he himself dont know it. He's just in an inactive faction which is posing with their r9/+12 gear whole day in south archo.

    He's one of those skilless failed lifes that CSed away with the money obtained from daddy/welfare system a view years ago. And now he's pissed off cz hes bored. U never c him in-game but 24h/day in forum.

    He even dont know that ppl want nv gear cz
    1. gear is tradable by account stash
    2. there is no rank helmet + robe and set bonus gives +5 attack lvls,
    so almost every r9 has it too
    3. 5aps 2nd cast nv dagger with ss and int out damage every r9
    4. it makes sense to trade magic weapons for your mystic/cleric/wizz/veno so u dont
    have to repeat all the refines.
    5. Barbs like nv dual axes, cz look matters.


    He's just a wannabe who constructs his own world/history. He want to believe. He just dont want to deal with reality, it would be a pain for him.


    Btw only casters do nv at 1x drop.. he would know it when he would play the game.

    Really? I always thought it was 2nd cast with GoF/int/130max atk. I.E. The Perfect cast 2nd cast daggers. Which only marginally out dd R9 and cost a ton more to roll the exact stats with God awful odds o.O
  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    *Reads the Thread's OP*

    *Goes to another thread*
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  • assassinsin101
    assassinsin101 Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Solution: remove rank, make Nirvana relevant.
    Much easier to remove broken BS of a gear set than a whole instance. b:bye
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Let's just remove all the QQ please.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Because that's all that this game is about now. It's pretty pathetic.

    b:bye

    +1
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Really? I always thought it was 2nd cast with GoF/int/130max atk. I.E. The Perfect cast 2nd cast daggers. Which only marginally out dd R9 and cost a ton more to roll the exact stats with God awful odds o.O

    At least GoF/-int/130max out-does R9 for Demons. I don't think anyone has ever tested the other mods.

    Also, for Sages, GoF/2x-0.05 out-does R9.

    R9 Demon: 270,348 dps
    G15 Demon with GoF/-int: 272,942 dps

    I decided to not factor GoF as both weapons have it and thus it's only a scaling multiplier. With GoF accounted the numbers would be 324,417 and 327,530, respectively. Interestingly, if you had SS instead of GoF on the G15, you'd still have 313,883 dps, so R9 would only be ~4% better, while the G15 would cost much less.


    e.g. you only need those two mods. The odds for that is 1/400. That's still much more than what you'd pay for R9, though.

    I'd suspect the claim for GoF/-int/130max originated from someone comparing that, which is the highest-DPS G15, to R9 and going "woo, it out-dps R9!", but never bothered to check other mods. Or then it's because of a different setup: Mine has a ton of +attack levels, which results in the +30 on R9 being less significant than it would be with, say, Primeval and JoSD. Also, I put 20 patk ring engraving into it. And allowed both setups to have R9 ring.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Idiot?

    Nirvana gear is useless. It's absolutely unnecessary for PvE and R9 demolishes it for PvP. Farm PvE gear in the new instance with Warding levels.

    You incompetent hyper nub.

    b:bye

    Yes, you're an idiot. Nirvana gear is totally useless, because EVERYONE can afford the $1500 for R9, plus the couple thousand more to refine and shard it. >_>

    Oh wait... I'm going to eventually have 6 characters over level 100. That's OVER $9000! You know what, I couldn't even sell my Subaru WRX for that much. >_>

    Maybe you should use some common sense before you post a thread.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    @ OP : didn't you always advocate for having frost reverted to it's old form ?
  • Jadsia - Lost City
    Jadsia - Lost City Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    True, true.

    Let's keep the instances and just remove the tideborn class completely.
    I **** bigger than you...

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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I want nv pants b:surrender
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I kind of agree they should find a way to obsolete FCC and Nirv. Those instances are so old and boring now since all you do is spam them hundreds of times. It makes the game so 1-dimensional. There have been a few new instances so far like 9 trials, Pheonix Valley, and Endless Universe but none of those can beat the FCC/Nirv combo for XP + coins.

    The rewards for other stuff should be much greater. Make 9 trials give 3m xp per trial to people level 101+. Give Endless Universe a 10% chance for a Rapture / Uncanny chest. Increase the rewards for Public Quest 2+3. They could also give a special 36x Hyper XP option that only works in the world map / morai / past maps.
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  • OJake - Raging Tide
    OJake - Raging Tide Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Idiot?

    Nirvana gear is useless. It's absolutely unnecessary for PvE and R9 demolishes it for PvP. Farm PvE gear in the new instance with Warding levels.

    You incompetent hyper nub.

    b:bye

    O.o did Nirvy hurt u? did u get kicked out of Nirvy squads a few 2many times?
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