Female tank?

Meiix - Lost City

Hello!

I ceared a cleric and I like it very much but I would also like to create create a "tank" character and I was wondering which class is the best at tanking. I dont want to create a barb because I want it to be a female. So choosing between bms and earthguards, which one is the best at tanking?`Id also like good aoe skills to lvl easier.

Please share your experiences b:pleased

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

Make a Seeker. They can do nearly anything a barb can. And some things even a wizzie can.

CRYSTY_III - Sanctuary

*Edited*

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

Noob here = a Seeker have ways for steal the agro back, like Flesh Ream?

Well since you don't want to be a WB... Blademaster is a decent tanker in lower levels, but since almost half of the server are sins you can't steal the agro of them. Assassins do the tank role (not by their choice lol) only in the late levels, but if you somehow hate sins you can go to EA too, cause most of the times they also do the tank role.

So we have:

Lower levels = Blademaster
Late levels = Assassin, Archer

PS: dunno about Seekers.

SoulRequiem - Sanctuary

There is no agro skill like Flesh Realm on other classes.
Just a Genie Skill.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

SoulRequiem - Sanctuary wrote: »

There is no agro skill like Flesh Realm on other classes.
Just a Genie Skill.

Don't bms have a skill thats sucky at generating hate but is meant for that nonetheless, like Battosai?

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

Like a sin I can say to you: if the sin steals the agro and die It's his problem! They should know what they can do and behave more, so don't worry about sins sparkling in the boss and stealing your agro, just combine beforehand that you will tank and game over.

Those BM skills aren't effective in practical use.

Stalker__ - Archosaur

*Edited*

TolanSky - Heavens Tear

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Don't bms have a skill thats sucky at generating hate but is meant for that nonetheless, like Battosai?

um... Battousai is a Seeker skill not a Blademaster skill. And yes in theory it is supposed to steel hate, in practicality it isn't very good at it. Though why a seeker needs a skill to steel back hate when a seeker can just go into Vortex and kill everything all by itself in a matter of a few seconds I don't know?

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

TolanSky - Heavens Tear wrote: »

um... Battousai is a Seeker skill not a Blademaster skill. And yes in theory it is supposed to steel hate, in practicality it isn't very good at it. Though why a seeker needs a skill to steel back hate when a seeker can just go into Vortex and kill everything all by itself in a matter of a few seconds I don't know?

Read more carefully.

They said 'LIKE Battousai'.

Anyway...

no, BM's don't have any Aggro skills.

You can always get... 5.0 and steal from Barbs/Seekers. But then a Sin will come along and faceroll your aggro right off you.

NiightmareXz - Harshlands

Isn't alpha male a genie skill used to get aggro of everything? Problem solved b:lipcurl

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Read more carefully.

They said 'LIKE Battousai'.

Gracias, and I found the skill I was thinking of, bms have stream strike. o.o I'm guessing it's terrible at it since I never really hear about people using it, whereas with flesh ream and roar it's easy to remember because a barb who doesn't know what it is, is either new or fail. Could be wrong though, my bm is like level 12. And girlies stats are wrong.


BTW, what's the name of the veno pet skill that also generates hate?

GaurdianMira - Archosaur

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

BTW, what's the name of the veno pet skill that also generates hate?

Roar, also if it's just the veno tanking any of the offensive skills of pets will usually keep aggro off of her.

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

neither bm/seeker can tank when there's a sin/barb at lower lvl. but they can pull. if u just wanna "tank" meaning you want agro when boss time comes roll a sin with exceptional gear. seeker is for pulling(depending on built/gear. some seeker canot pull with lol 3k hp at lvl 80). bm is for stun/aoe/ pull (depending on built/gear). i think rolling a bm/sin is best. this is only talking about low lvl with ff/rb/bh/pv. at higher lvl people prolly want bm/sin more for the aps for things like nirvana/tt. seeker will be wanted in tb which makes less money than nirvy/tt. ijs... play w/e is fun for u.


p.s there is alpha male for genie skill but sin will most likely steal agro back in 3 secs.

TolanSky - Heavens Tear

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear wrote: »

neither bm/seeker can tank when there's a sin/barb at lower lvl. but they can pull. if u just wanna "tank" meaning you want agro when boss time comes roll a sin with exceptional gear. seeker is for pulling(depending on built/gear. some seeker canot pull with lol 3k hp at lvl 80). bm is for stun/aoe/ pull (depending on built/gear). i think rolling a bm/sin is best. this is only talking about low lvl with ff/rb/bh/pv. at higher lvl people prolly want bm/sin more for the aps for things like nirvana/tt. seeker will be wanted in tb which makes less money than nirvy/tt. ijs... play w/e is fun for u.


p.s there is alpha male for genie skill but sin will most likely steal agro back in 3 secs.

For the record, now that Seeker has it's rank 9 Armor available to it. You should begin to expect to see more Seeker Tank Jobs than there have been in the past, thanks to the sheer overwhelming Damage Per Hit that the Seeker can do. In fact the way Vortex is written as actually working, it is even possible that Vortex can out DPS an APS player when it is up.

seitori

Also Depends on what sorta non-Barb (HA) Tanking Chari~That Meixx wants to try out in combat style; if its an (AOE Monster) I've found that the Seekers are better then BMs in my opinion...... but if what they want is a (High~APS Thumper on (hand to hand) go BM since they're not NeRfEd in their APS limits, like the Seekers are......

Properly equipped & played "Centenial Lv Sin's" are monsters as tanks later on, but as we all know who have active sin's in-game, boy do they ever pull off Agro~like all H&LL! Especially on squad runs.... b:shocked
So as a Sin, ya either have too switch too bow against bosses to limit your pull, or go on in as only a (part time) attacker with limited attack spurts, or just switch too lower lv fists, if ya still just wanna get in close too them for some (Low Pull) Melee & Smack down action "Or if ya just simply wanna still build (chi/spark) quickly, while trying to remain Agro neutral..." b:thanks

So in the end, its really up too whatever sorta HA action Meixx wants to have......

Yami_ - Dreamweaver

Before of this topic I though that 99,9% of the female Blademasters and Assassins was males, now I think that 99.8% of them are males lol.
Sorry for the joke but It's very rare to see a woman that like to play like tankers ^^ this remember me of a girl complaining about WB's be only males and she had a sign like: want to see the size of my hammer?

xD

Ny_Naeve - Dreamweaver

[QUOTE= Though why a seeker needs a skill to steel back hate when a seeker can just go into Vortex and kill everything all by itself in a matter of a few seconds I don't know?[/QUOTE]

The almighty vortex is a beautiful thing to this cleric - quick boss kill, and definite manna saver. Also, it keeps me on one target who is taking all the aggro. It can be stolen when the seeker is swirling, but my friends do it mostly **** around with genie skills etc - actually trying to steal aggro from one another...or when someone doesn't turn of herc's auto roar. All hail the swirling gummi-worm of death...seekers RULE! If you are gonna use it much prepare to use manna pots, powders and stuff though..can get expensive I hear. Otherwise with a continuous swirl and a cleric (or blood paint) a seeker can kill pretty much anything...and faster then a barb with a team of DD's. GL!

Ramanock - Archosaur

I get how you feel! I made a Seeker because I wanted a female tanking class and even though i'm only lvl 38, i've been really adoring her. At lower levels it can be hard to tank things because your hp and def are still low, but the higher level you get the more it evens out, and i'm just using NPC gear xD

Seekers might not have the same hp and def of a Barb, but they have debuffs and a lot higher damage which takes the aggravation out of Barbs since their low damage can make soloing a pain, and I think i'd choose Seeker over a Blademaster, because Blademasters tend to be more crowd control than tankers.

XXZeonXx - Harshlands

For PvE purposes, Seekers who are able to sustain vortex will keep and hold aggro from every class from levels 59-89. At 90+ is when more and more APS and demon sparks start coming in, so they'll usually have aggro.

Edit: Also, Seekers have more defense than both Barbs and BMs, but less HP than Barbs.

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

TolanSky - Heavens Tear wrote: »

For the record, now that Seeker has it's rank 9 Armor available to it. You should begin to expect to see more Seeker Tank Jobs than there have been in the past, thanks to the sheer overwhelming Damage Per Hit that the Seeker can do. In fact the way Vortex is written as actually working, it is even possible that Vortex can out DPS an APS player when it is up.

is op geting r9? r9 is so easy to get? is r9 cheaper to get then an aps bm/sin? ijs i'd go with the cheapest most efficient way. if we talk about r9. r9 sins can out damage a r9seeker im sure,hell even a nirvy g15 claw bm can out dmg a r9 seeker. again depends on built/gear. i cant stress that enough in my earlier post. I was also talking about lower lvl instances where r9 arent aplicable. also talking about pve, no tw/pvp involve. but seekers will get into squad easy for ff/pq cos of vortex/the ability to pull. but again play w/e you think is fun. idk try every class out. ima stick to my cleric/veno =.= cos i like em. future mystic soon to complete...when im not too lazy to lvl her =.='

Tekril - Dreamweaver

Holy smurf, guys. I just googled "female tank".

Hot.

laloner

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

For PvE purposes, Seekers who are able to sustain vortex will keep and hold aggro from every class from levels 59-89. At 90+ is when more and more APS and demon sparks start coming in, so they'll usually have aggro.

Edit: Also, Seekers have more defense than both Barbs and BMs, but less HP than Barbs.

I agree with this. Under 89 a seeker vortexing does the most damage in the game but later on the high aps sins and BMs overtake seekers. I think this is why you read conflicting advice on this subject. People who've never seen a 100 level seeker and a 100 level sin going against the same boss don't understand how important aps is at higher levels.

FWIW, I think seekers can make acceptable tanks and if thats what the OP wants then go for it and be happy.

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

For PvE purposes, Seekers who are able to sustain vortex will keep and hold aggro from every class from levels 59-89. At 90+ is when more and more APS and demon sparks start coming in, so they'll usually have aggro.

Edit: Also, Seekers have more defense than both Barbs and BMs, but less HP than Barbs.

BMs are
more useful for any squad
actually wanted and needed everywhere, in every aspect of the game (doh! right!)


while sins hit like more than all other classes together (damage = tank) bm is the #2 tank but can aoe better and is more squad-friendly, sooo many aoes


BM has TONS of Skills - tons of aoes
Seeker would most likely use one single skill, all the time, always, always vortex,
mp charm vortex AFK bai


but seeker girls look pretty

so uhm seeker

ps: everyone hates assasins, glad you dont make another stinky fish

HaxOmega - Dreamweaver

always hatin' on sins

Veru - Dreamweaver

Aoe b:dirty

StormHydra - Sanctuary

Seeker's can't tank well.

THey don't really have aggro skills like a barb

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seeker's can't tank well.

THey don't really have aggro skills like a barb

Let's see... I've got a 96 Sin and a 95 Archer. Also an 80 BM. And a 68 Barb. My Seeker is sitting in a dark hole somewhere crying, crying that I never play it...

My Barb can hold aggro against crappy geared Sins up to level 95 or so. My Barb has 10,500 HP buffed in tiger form. In a BH51 squad with a half awake cleric, I can (and often do) tank Fushie and Rankar at the same time. I can hit a mob twice with Flesh Ream and go to another mob, and a 60-69 Sin won't get aggro on that mob until it's dead.

My BM is 1.82 APS with fists, or 1.05 with poleaxe. Windshield or Cyclone gets me to 2.0. By simply using one of those two skills, HF, and GS, I can often pull aggro right off an 8x or 9x sin that is perma-sparking.

My Sin is Sage, and at 1.67 APS, if I'm going all out, and using Relentless Courage every now and then, I can pull aggro off a 100 4.0 G13 Demon Sin, and hold it, regardless of if they are perma-sparking or not.

Why am I such an Aggro Theif? For one, I have good gear. 10k HP at level 66 on my Barb, and the max refine on my gear is +3. I like having aggro, though I honestly cannot even fathom how my Sin can keep aggro over a 4.0 Demon Sin unless weapon procs build aggro.

My POINT is that if you're doing a 85-95 FCC and you have to choose between a level 85 Seeker doing the pulls and a 95 Barb doing the pulls, are you going to have a Barb do the pulls with all vendor gear, level 2-3 skills, HP Buff at level 5, maybe a blue one star axe that's 20 levels below their character's level in requirement, and has 5k HP buffed in tiger form (which is level 1), or a seeker with 7k HP, 14k PDef, and maxed skills where needed? My Archer tanked BH59 from level 70 to 79. I didn't want to waste hours and hours waiting for some non-existent barb to show up so I put a few points into vit (25 base vit), and some coins into gear. If there was a barb, and they coudln't hold aggro, then they were a fail barb and I tanked anyway.

But the OP's question about there being a Female Tank...

Every class can tank. Not everything. But if you want to, you can do it. Every one of my characters that's run through BH59 has tanked the bosses in there, Veno, Sin, Archer, BM... Next up is Barb. Psy, Wiz, Mystic, and Seeker are kinda on the back burner right now. >_> And Cleric currently is running through BH59, and has tanked most of the bosses already, but Cleric is mostly for Gamma.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

With crappy gear, barb is the best tank. With decent gear a BM is the best tank. With amazing gear, the first person to attack is the best tank. lol

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

With crappy gear, barb is the best tank. With decent gear a BM is the best tank. With amazing gear, the first person to attack is the best tank. lol

b:chuckle Had a barb attempt to tank with no gear.

Turned into a deathfest. Was quite funny... Apparently, even at level 85, you can't tank BH59 with a PDef of 3,000 buffed. b:laugh

Abstractive - Archosaur

DAT female tank.