Make Secret Passage PK zone again
atreides1t5
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The one update the Devs did right was make Secret passage a PVP arena. It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun. Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye
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the majority had fun there? first off it's not reverted yet... 2nd, where the hell have you been? under a rock?0
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What a stupid post. If U want pvp go play Conquer Online, jerk!0
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I agree that it was a good concept, but really SP is the worst place they could possibly put it. How you could possibly think that everyone enjoys the **** that goes on in SP these days is beyond me. My thinking is that you are one of the degenerates harassing all the low levels in there because you can handle anybody your own level.
If you want to stop SP from reverting go get a job with PWE. You're just as stupid as they are you'll fit right in.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nope.atreides1t5 wrote: »It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun.
It wasn't only the 3Xs, if you've been paying attention to anyone but yourself.atreides1t5 wrote: »Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
You're in the minority. b:byeatreides1t5 wrote: »The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye0 -
Fact is, over 75% of the people they polled opposed the change.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kadran - Dreamweaver wrote: »[...] You're in the minority. b:bye
... of people posting on the forums. To be fair, you can't say that cause noone but the GMs know the actual statistics of how many players even visit those forums. So unless you set the forum poll into a real relation to the game population this argument is invalid.
And the OP is clearly a troll post, yet people fall for it and throw around insults lol
As for SP.. I don't care, it doesn't bother me. Don't have a problem with PK there but if removing it and giving us the arena instead calmes this flaming and QQing, sure go ahead. So sick of people calling others names and every pker in there being labeled as a jerk and person who loves to harrass others...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »... of people posting on the forums. To be fair, you can't say that cause noone but the GMs know the actual statistics of how many players even visit those forums. So unless you set the forum poll into a real relation to the game population this argument is invalid.
And the OP is clearly a troll post, yet people fall for it and throw around insults lol
As for SP.. I don't care, it doesn't bother me. Don't have a problem with PK there but if removing it and giving us the arena instead calmes this flaming and QQing, sure go ahead. So sick of people calling others names and every pker in there being labeled as a jerk and person who loves to harrass others...
To be fair they also had a flood of tickets that they had to just consider a wash and revert the rules to allowing PK in there, so it's probably safe to say that the majority of the playerbase didn't want the change. The fact that any major guilds CAN camp it, means the majority of the playerbase is probably staying away from there. Because I don't care how OP that handful of campers are, they'd be wiped if the majority of the playerbase was PKing in there all at the same time. In fact, one the good points of PvP servers that all the pvp server people keep saying is part of the good fun of that server is exactly that. Some guild sticks around in a spot, PKs the wrong one shot, that one shot grabs their main and their guild and they have these huge open world battles.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Go die in a fire!
You need to leave this game and do something else if you're so bored and bullying others is the only enjoyment you're getting out of the game anymore.0 -
VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »To be fair they also had a flood of tickets that they had to just consider a wash and revert the rules to allowing PK in there, so it's probably safe to say that the majority of the playerbase didn't want the change.
Are you secretly a GM, so you seen those support tickets, Venus? b:shocked
If so then I'm gonna get running quickly
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Oh no not this again......b:surrender0
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »Are you secretly a GM, so you seen those support tickets, Venus? b:shocked
If so then I'm gonna get running quickly
They said as much, :P I'll try to find the post.
Okay here are the two posts, one from Sangodoc who seems to have specifically talked to Frankie about it, and one from Frankie himself who said they weren't just monitoring it based off the forums. considering the post saying the response was overwhelmingly negative, keyword being overwhelmingly, I'd say it's safe to assume the tickets were also negative. If it were a positive flood of tickets, there would have been a more balanced opinion on the issue and it wouldn't have been overwhelmingly negative.frankieraye wrote: »Monitoring the situation not only in-game, but also here on the forums and through Customer Service tickets.We weren't informed, because PWE (or at least FrankieRaye) wasn't informed. Why he wasn't informed, I don't know.
I assume it's because they're human and make mistakes, so maybe they just need better procedures to make sure that doesn't happen again, or it could just be a simple communication or something that fell through the cracks, but I could be wrong.
Furthermore, there was poor communication of the change between PW-China and PWE, resulting in a lot of initial confusion and wasted effort on support tickets over a rule that had to be reversed due to this change. All in all this was a pretty big mess.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yea I saw that Venus
But I still won't go with the theory that it's really the majority who rejected it xD Simply cause there are no numbers.
But hey, there's one good thing to all this. Since SP rage started most people shut up about goons glitch :'D Let the raging move on.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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But I did.Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »To be fair, you can't blah blah
No one would do anything if it was JUST forum posters. There had to be an insane amount of tickets submitted about this, not to mention the amount of time GMs were contacted in-game on this and the Chinese version about it. Yes, I can say it.
And lol @ "to be fair". This is all about people wanting fairness(carebears, whatever you wanna call them) versus people that want unfairness. This is the reason more PvE servers even exist. More people dislike themselves or others being ganked than wanting to go around killing everyone.
Deal with it.0 -
atreides1t5 wrote: »The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye
You know... if I had to satisfy either :
200 high level players who spend each $50 a month on my game
and
2000 lower level players who spend $20 a month on my game
My choice would go to the 2000... A happy low level is more prone to spend money on the game than a bored high level....
PW administrators are not stupid. If this SP fiasco did really brought them more money, than reverting it back, they would have left it that way.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
atreides1t5 wrote: »The one update the Devs did right was make Secret passage a PVP arena. It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun. Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye
dude first off thats just dumb ya want a pvp instance from pwi ask them to make a specific one not a old instance the low lvls use0 -
atreides1t5 wrote: »The one update the Devs did right was make Secret passage a PVP arena. It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun. Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:bye
GTFO on a PVP sever, how would you like to get killed over and over again and not get Silver Frost quest done.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=14516063001&dateline=1364756666[/SIGPIC] Ty Silvy
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Oneraven - Sanctuary wrote: »What a stupid post. If U want pvp go play Conquer Online, jerk!
That game is dead as well, ruined by stupid Egyptians.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=14516063001&dateline=1364756666[/SIGPIC] Ty Silvy0 -
atreides1t5 wrote: »The one update the Devs did right was make Secret passage a PVP arena. It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun. Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:byeatreides1t5 wrote: »Hello
So I just started the game last week and I noticed that rank 9 is just way too hard to get. I mean if everyone has it already anyways then why not make it cheaper so that everyone is on a level playing field. I mean that's how it was for serfs. R9 is just too expensive as it is now and it's not fair to people. I think that R9 should cost MAXIMUM 50 gold but 20 gold would be ideal that way I could just go to Target and get all my gear in one day.
I wish the orb sales were better too. 50g for 10* orb is just way too much money. It should be easier to get to be fair for everyone. I think that everyone would be better off with R9 +12 then everyone's true skill could shine.
What do you guys think? I think these changes would make this game way more fun to play. I mean you guys QQ about rank9 so much maybe you would stop QQ if everyone had it too! b:cute
These posts from player "that actually support this game financially" ... b:laugh.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
just a fact PvE servers seem to have probs in SP that pretty much says something about PvE servers dont you thin.On a PvP server they leave blue names alone this makes me wonder if PvE servers really need to kill ppl why not change all servers to PvP **** the Carebears thats what they say already them selves0
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1. People are at PvE servers.Broederjr - Lost City wrote: »just a fact PvE servers seem to have probs in SP that pretty much says something about PvE servers dont you thin.On a PvP server they leave blue names alone this makes me wonder if PvE servers really need to kill ppl why not change all servers to PvP **** the Carebears thats what they say already them selves
2. People don't want PvP.
3. Someone stupid enough forced them to PvP at SP (see quote below as example of some people thoughts).
4. They voted against change of SP to PvP instance.
5. Most of them have not possibility go to SP now to do quests.atreides1t5 wrote: »The one update the Devs did right was make Secret passage a PVP arena. It was the perfect set up where no items were lost and majority of people had fun. Why should people that have only played the game until lvl 3x have more say in the game than the majority of 10x that are sick of the horrible pvp events in this game.
The Devs of PWE should make the SP a pvp arena again and make the people that actually support this game financially (The bored high levels) have something fun to do. b:byeatreides1t5 wrote: »Hello
So I just started the game last week and I noticed that rank 9 is just way too hard to get. I mean if everyone has it already anyways then why not make it cheaper so that everyone is on a level playing field. I mean that's how it was for serfs. R9 is just too expensive as it is now and it's not fair to people. I think that R9 should cost MAXIMUM 50 gold but 20 gold would be ideal that way I could just go to Target and get all my gear in one day.
I wish the orb sales were better too. 50g for 10* orb is just way too much money. It should be easier to get to be fair for everyone. I think that everyone would be better off with R9 +12 then everyone's true skill could shine.
What do you guys think? I think these changes would make this game way more fun to play. I mean you guys QQ about rank9 so much maybe you would stop QQ if everyone had it too! b:cute
These posts from player "that actually support this game financially" ... b:laugh.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
How about you go Smurf yourself? Yeah, that sounds better.Broederjr - Lost City wrote: »just a fact PvE servers seem to have probs in SP that pretty much says something about PvE servers dont you thin.On a PvP server they leave blue names alone this makes me wonder if PvE servers really need to kill ppl why not change all servers to PvP **** the Carebears thats what they say already them selves0 -
Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »1. People are at PvE servers.
2. People don't want PvP.
3. Someone stupid enough forced them to PvP at SP.
4. They voted against change of SP to PvP instance.
5. Most of them have not possibility go to SP now to do quests.
zz you didnt read lets compare your pve vs pvp
1 ppl are at PvP servers
2 ppl can PvP anywhere
3 no1 forces them to pk its jsut where PvE ppl can pk
4 there isnt even needed to vote for it
5 every1 has the possibility to do quest cuz high lvs leave them alone
Now tell me was that so hard to see the problem isnt the pkers but the pve servers0 -
Broederjr - Lost City wrote: »zz you didnt read lets compare your pve vs pvp
1 ppl are at PvP servers
2 ppl can PvP anywhere
3 no1 forces them to pk its jsut where PvE ppl can pk
4 there isnt even needed to vote for it
5 every1 has the possibility to do quest cuz high lvs leave them alone
Now tell me was that so hard to see the problem isnt the pkers but the pve servers
PvP servers not need PvP instance since "ppl can PvP anywhere".
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Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »PvP servers not need PvP instance since "ppl can PvP anywhere".
Can you understand it ?
you understand that good so now you understand that the problem is the ppl that play pve servers without pk options good b:victory you jsut proved my point thank you0 -
PvPers have PK options in PvE servers. It's enough. All that you don't have is the ability to kill PvEers, most of which don't want to be involved with PvE. That's your problem.Broederjr - Lost City wrote: »you understand that good so now you understand that the problem is the ppl that play pve servers without pk options good b:victory you jsut proved my point thank you
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Here's an idea, we take the pvp zone, and push it somewhere else? Hell make a colliseum under arch for all I care, but I do feel people who like pvp and happen to be on pve servers should have some place that they can find like-minded people, it just shouldnt be in the way of people trying to complete all the quests that they need in SP. Hell, you could even make a room split off in the opposite direction of the quest rooms in SP and have that be your colliseum for PvP and only have PvP enabled in that area. Just get it out of the way for the people who need Quinzi, Dismal, Eido, Silver, and anything else you need in that place, because even when you have polite PvPers and are trying to fly over them you occasionally get caught in an AoE which from a lvl 90+ will insta-kill most people who are questing there.
So just move the PvP area out of the way, PvE players get to do their SP quests and Pvp players get to kill each other all they want, sound good to everyone?0 -
TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »Here's an idea, we take the pvp zone, and push it somewhere else? Hell make a colliseum under arch for all I care, but I do feel people who like pvp and happen to be on pve servers should have some place that they can find like-minded people, it just shouldnt be in the way of people trying to complete all the quests that they need in SP. Hell, you could even make a room split off in the opposite direction of the quest rooms in SP and have that be your colliseum for PvP and only have PvP enabled in that area. Just get it out of the way for the people who need Quinzi, Dismal, Eido, Silver, and anything else you need in that place, because even when you have polite PvPers and are trying to fly over them you occasionally get caught in an AoE which from a lvl 90+ will insta-kill most people who are questing there.
So just move the PvP area out of the way, PvE players get to do their SP quests and Pvp players get to kill each other all they want, sound good to everyone?
Isn't cube PvP enabled ?
Also if players want kill each other at PvE server - any area is open for them if they are in PvP mode.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Truth is the community as a whole was a lot more against it than for it, so they are reverting it back asap. With this, I'll be closing this topic.
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