Farming Sin setup?

Lumandan - Harshlands

Hallo,
I am level 99 at the moment and with some luck Ill be soon 100... so I guess its about time
to start thinking about my gear

I thought Ill get what most people get.. light armor, rep, nirvana and so... but now somebody
told me that farm sins should wear heave armor o.O
I actually never thought about that, and since its my first character here, I have no reference
at all. So before I spend some coins on armor and shards... can anybody help me with planing for my final setup for a farming sin?

I dont plan to do PVP at all really... its my first char and at the moment I need money.. everything else got to wait. I got 200k rep and I am a bit short on coins... but nothing that can't be fixed over time.. I just need to know what my final look should be, b4 I spend coins on items I am not gonna use later. This character will probably stay at lvl 101.

Thanks!

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver

Whoever told you that was either a dumbass or he was trolling you. Wear light armor.

Rank 8 weapon chest legs and ring. Warsoul of earth, ashuras boots and wrists, lionheart neck and belt, and an energetic robe. I recommend the wraithgate or hallucination one to place hold while you farm the lunar one, and you're good. Start with that, work your way up.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Go light armor.

Heavy Armor isn't a good build. For one, your damage will suffer greatly due to losing 150 dex. For two, it's not even possible without heavy restatting, as level 100 Heavy Armor takes 250 strength and level 100 daggers take 300 dex. And you only get 499 stats to spend, meaning you'll be about 50 short either way.

Even if you manage to get there, you'll be in a situation where you have high physical resistance, low damage and lower mag defense.

Also, going full HA means you'll not have Rank 8 armor, which means you'll be locked at a maximum of 4.0 aps, assuming you get every single piece of -interval other than the armor. Which would lead you, now full HA, into being stuck with Evasion Ornaments, which would leave you with crappy defenses.

The only reason to go full HA is if you already have a highly geared BM or barb and have all the gear ready. Though, even in that case, making a sin doesn't make much sense.

For comparison:
HA 4.0 Sin
Here you observe 10,411 HP, 9,183 Pdef, 2,330 MDef and an average DPS of 124,556.

LA 5.0 Sin
Here you observe 13,050 HP, 9,677 Pdef, 4,568 MDef and an average DPS of 154,937.

Of course, the latter build has gear that far out-costs the former. However, my point is that the "advantages" of HA, mainly higher life and higher PDef, can be overcome with the right choices of gear. As can be seen from the stats, eventually the LA build will be superior to the HA build in every single way, simply because the HA build doesn't have enough freedom for improvement.

And in the event that you make it a "hybrid" with the Rank 8 chest armor for -interval, then that pretty much nullifies the whole point of going HA, since the chest piece always has the highest defenses.

And btw, for farming purposes, majority of people only give a damn about how high your DPS is.

Lumandan - Harshlands

O well.. that was easier then I thought ^^
Ill continue with the default setup plan then

Thanks for your time people!!

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Was that BelleNa person from Harshlands?

If so I wouldn't be surprised if he/she was the one who told you farm sins wear HA.

b:chuckle

Lumandan - Harshlands

The person who told me that is actually a good player... maybe I just got something wrong there and since I'm kinda new here... it sounded actually good to me.

Still a lot to learn here b:victory

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

HA Fist 5.0 demon sins are becoming 'popular' on Sanct for farming. Cheaper, easier to get to 5.0 sparked, and the damage is high enough to warrant the expense.

If you go HA, forget about using Daggers though, minimal dex for fists, maximize your str for fist damage.

I'm tempted to make a second sin for this, since my current sin is Sage. >_>

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver

Sanct is a joke of a server if that's popular. Caring way too much about aps, not enough about dps.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sanct is a joke of a server if that's popular. Caring way too much about aps, not enough about dps.

Well, you obviously have no idea what an HA + pure str setup does then. >_>

HA Sin with 4 or 5 APS sparked can permaspark, and has the DPS to farm effectively.

That's the ****ing idea of a Farming character.

It's not for maximum damage.

It's not for facerolling in TW.

It's not for anything. But. Farming.

It has survivability from HA, and it has DPS from being high Str and fists/claws. You can BP yourself, and perma spark if you have to for a self purify.

If you want something for TW, then don't do an HA fist/Claw sin.

it's really that simple.

Empu - Sanctuary

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

HA Fist 5.0 demon sins are becoming 'popular' on Sanct for farming. Cheaper, easier to get to 5.0 sparked, and the damage is high enough to warrant the expense.

If you go HA, forget about using Daggers though, minimal dex for fists, maximize your str for fist damage.

I'm tempted to make a second sin for this, since my current sin is Sage. >_>

I never noticed them being popular. They are just seen as bms without hf/gs/buff, or barbs without buffs, and thus just a DD to fill up if you can't find anything better. On soloing, you can actually manage better dps and survivability as a LA sage sin. Daggers have the advantage of getting crit and dph from dex, something fists/claws don't have.

Most HA sins are just wearing armor of a main bm/barb. They are fishy-replica's from their main, and I wouldn't really call that a goal for endgame build (I don't even get why they won't just use LA+daggers). There are some HA fist sins that are 5 aps with demon or lvl7 chill. However, this brings you back to Olbaze's post, because you need the r8 plate.

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver

It isnt effective, end of story. There are better option out there than wasting money on HA.