June 1 Chinese Patch Notes

Infernia - Harshlands

Raapy - Raging Tide wrote: »

and waste almost 1m to do every delta? no ty
i'm sure they can solve this with a better way than that, and also, Nirvana is the same as they are going to make delta be, u lose exp, u have to release or get ress'ed and ppl still get kicked out nirvana, its not so usually, but still happens

1m? If you die that much, you suck. I did full GV with a Psychic tank (No barb) and we only died once. (Was a 1k shamefully, but it was for the dudes culti, so we came back and finished up). Wheres your 1m come from?

I assume you are one of those people who thinks its a good idea to pay a barb to tank right? Things cost. Not everything is free. You are too used to getting your own way that you cant handle a slight loss because the gain is not immediately apparent. QQ QQ QQ!

Also, dying is a shortcut, its not how you are supposed to do those quests, at all. In any non-mmo, dying is the end, you use another method, dying only works because its an mmo and you need to respawn b:bye

Raapy - Raging Tide

Dying = Lose Exp (Buying Guardian Scroll also waste money)
Tele Incences x10 = 90silver (1 gold = 1.2m atm)
Runnin Back all the way = Waste of Time

And the problem is not totally fixed, or noone would be kicked out nirvana..

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

In my opinion, paying 1m or so is worth not having the risk of getting 1ked. I'd rather get my RB done as soon as possible than have to restart and try again. People have been complaining for ages now about the 1k glitch (and a few other RB ones, though 1k seems to be the one most loudly complained about) and this is pretty much the solution to it. I think it's a good fix and I'm glad something's being done about it, even if it's not what everyone expected/asked for.

B_K - Sanctuary

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

1m? If you die that much, you suck. I did full GV with a Psychic tank (No barb) and we only died once. (Was a 1k shamefully, but it was for the dudes culti, so we came back and finished up). Wheres your 1m come from?

uh... for the tele incense that u said to use >.> can we say brain ****

Infernia - Harshlands

B_K - Sanctuary wrote: »

uh... for the tele incense that u said to use >.> can we say brain ****

Lol. DQ points ftw.

Also, cheaper than exp right? b:chuckle

Quilue - Sanctuary

How do you get kicked out of Nirvana? lol...I think someone must've respawned and just accidentally walked out.

DemansPsy - Lost City

nimh88 wrote: »

Source: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1755618&extra=page%3D1

Some highlights:
- Changes in Rebirth: you will no longer be automatically rez'd, you will loose exp upon death, special rez scroll (and a couple of other stuff not sure what for) will be given upon entry.

three words: f****** worth it, rather lose exp than lose 3mil+ in coin and an hour of work becasue soemone got booted halfway in, if this really does get patched in, ty pwi.b:victory

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

How do you get kicked out of Nirvana? lol...I think someone must've respawned and just accidentally walked out.

If you die in the entrance you get kicked out. I've only seen it happen when first boss spawned a billion circles and someone was still afk in the entrance and got sent to town when they tried to rez. I guess in theory it could happen if you're lagging and respawn while the game still thinks you're taking damage? If people auto rez'd in Nirvana like in RB, I think it would be a huge issue.

Tojop - Dreamweaver

Wait....who the hell is complaining about losing exp in delta? If you're level 100 and care about exp, you're not doing full deltas, you're in fc. If you're 101 and care about exp, you're also not doing full deltas, and are even less likely to die. If you're 102 and trying to finish a full delta, it's likely for the lulz, because you're sick of nirvana and have no intention of hitting 103.

If you're 103+...odds are good you don't read the forum b:chuckle

And before the 9xs start QQing....lets not kid ourselves, you're not doing delta.

Edit: my post did NOT address the level 100+ people who die during wave 2-3 BH who still wish to level. Stop squadding with fails. That should cover it.

DemansPsy - Lost City

Tojop - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wait....who the hell is complaining about losing exp in delta? If you're level 100 and care about exp, you're not doing full deltas, you're in fc. If you're 101 and care about exp, you're also not doing full deltas, and are even less likely to die. If you're 102 and trying to finish a full delta, it's likely for the lulz, because you're sick of nirvana and have no intention of hitting 103.

If you're 103+...odds are good you don't read the forum b:chuckle

And before the 9xs start QQing....lets not kid ourselves, you're not doing delta.

Edit: my post did NOT address the level 100+ people who die during wave 2-3 BH who still wish to level. Stop squadding with fails. That should cover it.

im 102 and still tryin to lv and do full GVs all the time, but id rather lose the exp than fail the run any day, not like a death is a huge loss of exp anymore anyway with hyper frost, especailly when you can solo it.

Flare - Heavens Tear

Hopefully they aren't changing it here to be that way... I wouldn't want to lose xp in an instance where I am trying to gain xp and coin without hypering or cash shopping.I did 4 full rbs these past 4 days, 2 of them which were today. Hopefully I won't need to stop because of it. They are trying to fix what does not exist.

In my 4 full rb runs these few days, there was no 1k bug of any sort where one dies and is teleported to 1k due to excessive damage. Today there was a fail lure barb that died at least 10 times without being 1ked. Me and wizzy had to lure wave 3 and 9 and a few other waves.

Guess I'm keeping my fragsb:angry

Infernia - Harshlands

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hopefully they aren't changing it here to be that way... I wouldn't want to lose xp in an instance where I am trying to gain xp and coin without hypering or cash shopping.I did 4 full rbs these past 4 days, 2 of them which were today. Hopefully I won't need to stop because of it. They are trying to fix what does not exist.

In my 4 full rb runs these few days, there was no 1k bug of any sort where one dies and is teleported to 1k due to excessive damage. Today there was a fail lure barb that died at least 10 times without being 1ked. Me and wizzy had to lure wave 3 and 9 and a few other waves.

Guess I'm keeping my fragsb:angry

Your barbarian was lucky, or charmed. The 1k bug is prominant and annoying. I would rather lose some easy to regain exp than fail a quest just to get an unlucky victim back into instance.

Fenrina - Heavens Tear

KrittyCat wrote: »

An interesting thought here is that Seekers can do elemental damage...and because they have no realistic chance at 4-5APS, are they going to be left out in the cold on this? b:sad

Seekers do have the shatter series and there was a mention of aggro changes to "some seeker skills." Maybe they could act as tanks/damage boosters for the mages?

I wonder if Staggering Strike can trigger Sky Waltz on a physical immune. Placing it shouldn't be a problem, but activating it could be an issue.

Bearish - Sanctuary

well barbs still screwed in nirvana, wats new

Flare - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Your barbarian was lucky, or charmed. The 1k bug is prominant and annoying. I would rather lose some easy to regain exp than fail a quest just to get an unlucky victim back into instance.

Barb was not antistunned or charmed..rofl and its not easy to regain exp at 101+ without hypers that is lost on death. Altogether I seen about 20 deaths these 4 rbs from final boss and wave 3 and 9 luring(2 times for me) or other random deaths. As much as I did think about it, not 1 1ked..LOL

Infernia - Harshlands

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Barb was not antistunned or charmed..rofl and its not easy to regain exp at 101+ without hypers that is lost on death. Altogether I seen about 20 deaths these 4 rbs from final boss and wave 3 and 9 luring(2 times for me) or other random deaths. As much as I did think about it, not 1 1ked..LOL

BH orb, Crazy Stone, WQ, unhypered map 3 grind, the EXP from GV itself, Warsong...

What was that about hard to get exp? Unless you die a **** tonne, you can get it back in no time.

Also, just buy a few scrolls, if you are that overprotective.

Also, if you are so scared for losing exp, why not just hyper it back? Im pretty sure noone will blame you, its for recovering exp, not hitting 100 pointlessly fast without learning anything. Saying "I dont hyper" is not a defence to this btw, if you dont hyper, use scrolls or Eso and regain or prevent the loss.

1k bug being fixed like this would be a dream come true. Your somewhat amazing luck is not enough proof that its not a good fix, sorry.

Flare - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

BH orb, Crazy Stone, WQ, unhypered map 3 grind, the EXP from GV itself, Warsong...

What was that about hard to get exp? Unless you die a **** tonne, you can get it back in no time.

Also, just buy a few scrolls, if you are that overprotective.

Also, if you are so scared for losing exp, why not just hyper it back? Im pretty sure noone will blame you, its for recovering exp, not hitting 100 pointlessly fast without learning anything. Saying "I dont hyper" is not a defence to this btw, if you dont hyper, use scrolls or Eso and regain or prevent the loss.

1k bug being fixed like this would be a dream come true. Your somewhat amazing luck is not enough proof that its not a good fix, sorry.

So basically I die about 2-3 times and lose enough exp to cause rb to be meaningless...gg
Also, with autorez disabled, the cleric will have to bring down bb to rez someone.
With hypering it back, that means there is no point in going to rb for that exp that you hoping to gain.
and four year university = no time to do all the above that you listed
Therefore, if this would be implimented, less people will do for exp and coin, meaning that inexperienced rb noobs will have to fend for themselves.

Flare - Heavens Tear

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So basically I die about 2-3 times and lose enough exp to cause rb to be meaningless...gg
Also, with autorez disabled, the cleric will have to bring down bb to rez someone.
With hypering it back, that means there is no point in going to rb for that exp that you hoping to gain.
and four year university = no time to do all the above that you listed
Therefore, if this would be implimented, less people will do for exp and coin, meaning that inexperienced rb noobs will have to fend for themselves.

Unless that "special rez scroll" somehow causes you to be able to go back to town to valley...but thats still going to town... = wq or wq + cs

Infernia - Harshlands

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So basically I die about 2-3 times and lose enough exp to cause rb to be meaningless...gg
Also, with autorez disabled, the cleric will have to bring down bb to rez someone.
With hypering it back, that means there is no point in going to rb for that exp that you hoping to gain.
and four year university = no time to do all the above that you listed
Therefore, if this would be implimented, less people will do for exp and coin, meaning that inexperienced rb noobs will have to fend for themselves.

Lol.

^All I can say really, your stupidity astounds me.

Flare - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Lol.

^All I can say really, your stupidity astounds me.

same to you

Infernia - Harshlands

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

same to you

Il see ya in "town" captain corpse! Il have wasted oh 90- 120k on that guardian scroll and be happy I didnt fail my quest. And il be laughing at you.

You can QQ all you like over your poor lost exp, I wont be losing my quest on the rare occasion anyone dies.

And extra note? As much as I dislike hyper noobs and similar myself, nobody intelligent will refuse that after 100 (Im happy to go so low as 40, outside of FC, for general grinding with some speed), hypers make levelling realistic and are perfectly viable no matter what your ethic. Hell, if you log on and kill one thing during 2x, you are a hypocrite.

Oh, and for an "experianced RBer" like yourself, you sure profess to die a lot.

NinjaEDIT:

Yeah, I thought of stuff when I went for a ****

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Lol.

^All I can say really, your stupidity astounds me.

what a cogent and well thought out response. kudos to you and your world class reasoning skills s1r.

Flare - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Il see ya in "town" captain corpse! Il have wasted oh 90- 120k on that guardian scroll and be happy I didnt fail my quest. And il be laughing at you.

You can QQ all you like over your poor lost exp, I wont be losing my quest on the rare occasion anyone dies.

And extra note? As much as I dislike hyper noobs and similar myself, nobody intelligent will refuse that after 100 (Im happy to go so low as 40, outside of FC, for general grinding with some speed), hypers make levelling realistic and are perfectly viable no matter what your ethic. Hell, if you log on and kill one thing during 2x, you are a hypocrite.

Oh, and for an "experianced RBer" like yourself, you sure profess to die a lot.

NinjaEDIT:

Yeah, I thought of stuff when I went for a ****

rofl, I died 2 times in four rbs, that was luring wave 3 the first rb, luring wave 9 the 2nd time due to cooldown of powders from luring 9-4, all during the first out of four rbs this weeks. other 10+ deaths were of the barbs and squishies that randomly die on the final boss

and yes, I was uncharmed for all four rbs and passed every single one of them while luring some wave 3 and 9s.

k thanks byeb:bye

Infernia - Harshlands

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

rofl, I died 2 times in four rbs, that was luring wave 3 the first rb, luring wave 9 the 2nd time due to cooldown of powders from luring 9-4, all during the first out of four rbs this weeks. other 10+ deaths were of the barbs and squishies that randomly die on the final boss

and yes, I was uncharmed for all four rbs and passed every single one of them while luring some wave 3 and 9s.

k thanks byeb:bye

So pro you can run GV just like that, which grants a good few Mystical tome frags which rarely drop below 75k in value, but cant cough up a wee bit of cash for some scrolls?

You fail, hardcore.

bladerunnerdm

Awesome this fix is really awesome...
you know what to do to fix it?
its a single line in a server configuration file to not re-spawn in happy valley, so it's easier than fixing the real issue...

DISAPPOINTING
b:angry

ColdSnow - Dreamweaver

Flare - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So basically I die about 2-3 times and lose enough exp to cause rb to be meaningless...gg
Also, with autorez disabled, the cleric will have to bring down bb to rez someone.
With hypering it back, that means there is no point in going to rb for that exp that you hoping to gain.
and four year university = no time to do all the above that you listed
Therefore, if this would be implimented, less people will do for exp and coin, meaning that inexperienced rb noobs will have to fend for themselves.

Sorry i dont get your point. If you are uncharmed..and die that often durring delta then go buy guardian scrolls (10 scrolls around 2mil = 3-4Deltas for you). That way you defently wont lose exp and you wont get ported to 1k.
A good Cleric waits till wave of mobs is over and rez then. Chi should be plenty avaible for next BB.
A good player wouldnt depend on Cleric rez and move his *** and spawn.
A good player who doesnt want to lose exp in RB would buy charm or scrolls.
A good player who doesnt want to lose exp, nor buy charm or scrolls should get better gear and use apo so he doesnt die at all.

I been with my lvl93 Veno and Cleric in deltas and never seen anyone die more than once (only barb once dying twice MAX, he wasnt charmed and it was his first delta).

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Lol.

^All I can say really, your stupidity astounds me.

Lol? I didn't realize coming to an online message board for a video game, and calling people names, makes you higher than others in terms of intelligence.

buttercupcruella

Tojop - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wait....who the hell is complaining about losing exp in delta? If you're level 100 and care about exp, you're not doing full deltas, you're in fc. If you're 101 and care about exp, you're also not doing full deltas, and are even less likely to die. If you're 102 and trying to finish a full delta, it's likely for the lulz, because you're sick of nirvana and have no intention of hitting 103.

If you're 103+...odds are good you don't read the forum b:chuckle

And before the 9xs start QQing....lets not kid ourselves, you're not doing delta.

Edit: my post did NOT address the level 100+ people who die during wave 2-3 BH who still wish to level. Stop squadding with fails. That should cover it.

I'd like to respond to the part in your post, which I B, I and U'ed.b:chuckle

I was a lvl 93 barb and got to wave 4. Got 1k'ed during wave 5. So .... YES, WE ARE doing deltas. Only because there are some lvl 100+ that didn't get their wave 4 for chrono doesn't mean 9x don't do it. It's people like you that QQ in WC for hours in search for players 100+ for GV... Others form 9x squads and PEW PEW.

EDIT: Sure, I don't mean full rebirth, but up to wave 5 (or maybe even further)

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Lol? I didn't realize coming to an online message board for a video game, and calling people names, makes you higher than others in terms of intelligence.

Infernia is one of 'those' people. The troll people. Move along, and stop feeding it...

nimh88

Patch just completed on the CN Servers.

Word is that the new phys immune nirvana indeed has five bosses.

Source:

http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1756635&extra=page%3D1&page=1

poster basically said that the first boss didn't drop anything, next 3 dropped 1 or 2 (didn't say which, last boss dropped mirage, rap and canny. Took them 50 mins because it was their first time. Bosses aoe... cleric bb'd... People seemed to be pleased with the drops.