Bottom line....

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

Kaiser and kaza u guys have made post clearly stating the obvious truths of this server and it's recent events, yet people seem to turn a blind eye or just bs to it. I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

So here's how to fix that. We beat them. It's exactly how it happend with narla and elusive, people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them. So it looks like we'll have to do it again. And sorry to say but nemesis is the same old narla (same leader and director AND most officers are still the same). And sorry to inform u guys but rescind is not elusive. We have a different leader and different officers, yes a lot of the members are from elusive. But there is a simple reason why we are here, we didn't mix with the other factions on this server. We tried other factions (texas, immunity, etc.). The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members. We debate argue and seek the truth. And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof. So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.



P.s even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore, I just feel bad for them

Abstractive - Archosaur

None of my business, but best of luck in your endeavours.

Martin - Harshlands

Bro...

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

Martin - Harshlands wrote: »

Bro...

Ikr....... Btw come back to arch server

Orintaz - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

Kaiser and kaza u guys have made post clearly stating the obvious truths of this server and it's recent events, yet people seem to turn a blind eye or just bs to it. I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

So here's how to fix that. We beat them. It's exactly how it happend with narla and elusive, people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them. So it looks like we'll have to do it again. And sorry to say but nemesis is the same old narla (same leader and director AND most officers are still the same). And sorry to inform u guys but rescind is not elusive. We have a different leader and different officers, yes a lot of the members are from elusive. But there is a simple reason why we are here, we didn't mix with the other factions on this server. We tried other factions (texas, immunity, etc.). The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members. We debate argue and seek the truth. And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof. So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.



P.s even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore, I just feel bad for them

Damn, you could be great politician, ijs.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

Kaiser and kaza u guys have made post clearly stating the obvious truths of this server and it's recent events, yet people seem to turn a blind eye or just bs to it. I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

So here's how to fix that. We beat them. It's exactly how it happend with narla and elusive, people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them. So it looks like we'll have to do it again. And sorry to say but nemesis is the same old narla (same leader and director AND most officers are still the same). And sorry to inform u guys but rescind is not elusive. We have a different leader and different officers, yes a lot of the members are from elusive. But there is a simple reason why we are here, we didn't mix with the other factions on this server. We tried other factions (texas, immunity, etc.). The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members. We debate argue and seek the truth. And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof. So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.



P.s even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore, I just feel bad for them

This has got to be one of the most arrogant, assuming, and narrow-minded posts I have ever seen on these forums. I'm a little blown away right now.

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

This has got to be one of the most arrogant, assuming, and narrow-minded posts I have ever seen on these forums. I'm a little blown away right now.

Says one of the most arrogant, assuming and narrow minded person I know on this serverb:thanks

WnbTank - Archosaur

Winner writes the history, kitty thought you`d all know that by now. You could look for examples in your own history book if you wanted. But kitty goes to get something eatable from store and barb of choclate, beeing sick aint fun, stopped waking on night just to throw up but dont really feel like getting anything but nomnomnom down my throat =/.

Ps. I need more powder for hot choclate too =(.

Edit: and milk too, go try full water hot choclate, after it aint like hot anymore, it gets like eww tasting. Now all I need is laptop with me in the store as I got my shopping list on this thread! Actually phone might work and I cant bother looking for pen and paper.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Winner writes the history, kitty thought you`d all know that by now. You could look for examples in your own history book if you wanted. But kitty goes to get something eatable from store and barb of choclate, beeing sick aint fun, stopped waking on night just to throw up but dont really feel like getting anything but nomnomnom down my throat =/.

Ps. I need more powder for hot choclate too =(.

Edit: and milk too, go try full water hot choclate, after it aint like hot anymore, it gets like eww tasting. Now all I need is laptop with me in the store as I got my shopping list on this thread! Actually phone might work and I cant bother looking for pen and paper.

Don't sell yourself short! I bought an ipad just so I could take these beloved forums to bed with me, as well as to class, to get a haircut, to go grocery shopping, for when I do laundry, while I'm watching TV, etc. I would never go back to how I used to be. b:thanks

Kattanyia - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

Kaiser and kaza u guys have made post clearly stating the obvious truths of this server and it's recent events, yet people seem to turn a blind eye or just bs to it. I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

So here's how to fix that. We beat them. It's exactly how it happend with narla and elusive, people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them. So it looks like we'll have to do it again. And sorry to say but nemesis is the same old narla (same leader and director AND most officers are still the same). And sorry to inform u guys but rescind is not elusive. We have a different leader and different officers, yes a lot of the members are from elusive. But there is a simple reason why we are here, we didn't mix with the other factions on this server. We tried other factions (texas, immunity, etc.). The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members. We debate argue and seek the truth. And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof. So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.



P.s even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore, I just feel bad for them

LMAO *facepalm* This is serious business you know!

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

Actually, they are too lazy and too arrogant.

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

So here's how to fix that. We beat them.

That won't work again. Every faction with a guild base, even if it falters (which is doubtful, but possible) will at WORST fade only to eventually return (alot like cultblood - they are held together by something a bit more than a guild base, however b:chuckle).

And Narla would have NEVER crumbled like that had there been TW pay. Think they would have surrendered how many hundreds of millions per week too Kaiser after only one loss? Um, not a chance.

Think the members would leave and sacrifice their TW pay? Not a chance. Hell, in Narla, there were people that hadn't logged into the game for months that were still picking up a paycheck.

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them.

Some of us realized it before, ijs. Pathetic? Yes. Shady? Eh, maybe not.

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members.

+1

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

We debate argue and seek the truth.

+1

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof.

+1

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.

Nah, I think Rescind should focus on all the other factions. I didn't think we had enough active players for more than 2 main TW factions. I thought I was going to be wrong when Darkside was holding its own against Nemesis early on. But I really think I am right.

Let there be 2 land owning factions. Then let the rest choose. Survival of the fittest. Only Immunity, Rescind and Nemesis are in the hunt for those 2 spots. I say on map reset, those 3 take out the others, listen to them qq from level 60 to level 100, then read over their applications when they, inevitably, come rolling in, lol

Giving Nemesis fun in TW in the interim only helps them, not the server. And to ask them, they like pve better anyway. b:surrender

WnbTank - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

Don't sell yourself short! I bought an ipad just so I could take these beloved forums to bed with me, as well as to class, to get a haircut, to go grocery shopping, for when I do laundry, while I'm watching TV, etc. I would never go back to how I used to be. b:thanks

All kitty lacks is decent speed on it`s browser, I need new phone =(.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

Says one of the most arrogant, assuming and narrow minded person I know on this serverb:thanks

The part that made no sense to me was that you spent two paragraphs talking about how you're going to do this, this and this to show all the people with their heads up their asses how wrong they are, but then, in one fell sentence at the very end you say, and I quote: "even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore"

The reason I think your post was arrogant, assuming, and narrow minded is because you don't seem to leave any possible allowance for anything in your post to be wrong (narrowminded and arrogant). You state as a fact that you 'now know the truth' (arrogant, assumption, narrowminded), and imply that everyone in Nemesis have their collective heads up their collective asses (assumption, arrogant, and narrowminded). In fact, your entire post basically comes down to: We know the truth, we know these people are stupid, they won't listen to us (apparantly the only true bearers of true truth), and therefore we must make it our directive to annihilate them (arrogant).

I don't know how pointing that out makes me arrogant, assuming, and narrowminded, but sure, I've been guilty of all of them and I'm sure I will continue to be at some points for the rest of my life.

And bro.... if I wanted my own comeback I would go wipe it off yo mommas face.... (joke, funny, plagiarized from urbandictionary.com)

Kehrendorh - Archosaur

OP's rant sounds a lot like Christianity, imho. Or if you are a SG1 fan, the Ori.

If people don't like whats going on this server....go to another. Stop trying to force feed other people your own agenda. Do what you want, and stop calling everyone who doesn't do what you want ignorant.

One thing I can say about Nemesis is that they don't try to force feed their own agenda to the general mass, at least not publicly. Behind the scenes, maybe, I don't know, and I don't care. It comes with the politics of War. They do what they want, and thats the way it should be.

RioNHale - Archosaur

I never done a PVE tw before b:cry

AgentPotato - Archosaur

Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »

OP's rant sounds a lot like Christianity, imho. Or if you are a SG1 fan, the Ori.

If people don't like whats going on this server....go to another. Stop trying to force feed other people your own agenda. Do what you want, and stop calling everyone who doesn't do what you want ignorant.

One thing I can say about Nemesis is that they don't try to force feed their own agenda to the general mass, at least not publicly. Behind the scenes, maybe, I don't know, and I don't care. It comes with the politics of War. They do what they want, and thats the way it should be.

I thought it sounded a little like a stereotypical American foreign policy, but then, the USA is a Christian nation I suppose. b:chuckle

God, now that I think about it, it reminds me of radical Islam as well. Wtf, are all religions like this?

Zhadi - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

And bro.... if I wanted my own comeback I would go wipe it off yo mommas face.... (joke, funny, plagiarized from urbandictionary.com)

LOLOLOL b:laugh

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

The part that made no sense to me was that you spent two paragraphs talking about how you're going to do this, this and this to show all the people with their heads up their asses how wrong they are, but then, in one fell sentence at the very end you say, and I quote: "even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore"

The reason I think your post was arrogant, assuming, and narrow minded is because you don't seem to leave any possible allowance for anything in your post to be wrong (narrowminded and arrogant). You state as a fact that you 'now know the truth' (arrogant, assumption, narrowminded), and imply that everyone in Nemesis have their collective heads up their collective asses (assumption, arrogant, and narrowminded). In fact, your entire post basically comes down to: We know the truth, we know these people are stupid, they won't listen to us (apparantly the only true bearers of true truth), and therefore we must make it our directive to annihilate them (arrogant).

I don't know how pointing that out makes me arrogant, assuming, and narrowminded, but sure, I've been guilty of all of them and I'm sure I will continue to be at some points for the rest of my life.

And bro.... if I wanted my own comeback I would go wipe it off yo mommas face.... (joke, funny, plagiarized from urbandictionary.com)

first off i said ur one of the most arrogant, assuming and narrow minded people i know on this server, not because of ur reply but because of some of the **** u've done in the past. second of all we know the shiit that goes behind closed doors in nemesis, the trolling, the bashing and the scheming. now we can hand people the proof on a golden platter but they still wont believe it. there is a difference between opinion and fact btw.... i have stated no facts, however kaiser, proski, and kaza have all shown their proof on multiple posts (wheather it'd be in SS or w.e). third of all i never said we were going to do anything, i said what had (and what i would like) to be done for people to believe the facts once and for all. and that is to take down nemesis, because it is as wnb said it "winner writes history". well winner can also show the facts of the real history.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

first off i said ur one of the most arrogant, assuming and narrow minded people i know on this server, not because of ur reply but because of some of the **** u've done in the past. second of all we know the shiit that goes behind closed doors in nemesis, the trolling, the bashing and the scheming. now we can hand people the proof on a golden platter but they still wont believe it. there is a difference between opinion and fact btw.... i have stated no facts, however kaiser, proski, and kaza have all shown their proof on multiple posts (wheather it'd be in SS or w.e). third of all i never said we were going to do anything, i said what had (and what i would like) to be done for people to believe the facts once and for all. and that is to take down nemesis, because it is as wnb said it "winner writes history". well winner can also show the facts of the real history.

No, we don't know the 'shiit that goes on behind closed doors in nem', that would be assuming something since neither of us are in Nemesis and I don't think you have ever been. If you have, it hasn't been for long enough for you to make anything close to an educated guess as to what goes on. All you know about it is what you see and deduce on your own, often without proper context and background knowledge. Also, if you think about it, there is always trolling, bashing, and scheming going on 'behind closed doors' in every faction, so its arrogant and narrowminded to imply that Nemesis is the only one doing it.

You stated no facts? Your words: "We now know the truth". If a statement is not true, it is not a fact, which means you, sir, are lying.

A winner? On an MMO?

WnbTank - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

No, we don't know the 'shiit that goes on behind closed doors in nem', that would be assuming something since neither of us are in Nemesis and I don't think you have ever been. If you have, it hasn't been for long enough for you to make anything close to an educated guess as to what goes on. All you know about it is what you see and deduce on your own, often without proper context and background knowledge. Also, if you think about it, there is always trolling, bashing, and scheming going on 'behind closed doors' in every faction, so its arrogant and narrowminded to imply that Nemesis is the only one doing it.

You stated no facts? Your words: "We now know the truth". If a statement is not true, it is not a fact, which means you, sir, are lying.

A winner? On an MMO?

Has it ever occured to you that maybe, just maybe we could have connections inside nemesis, somebody might call them friends? I myself got friends there, well been inactive lately, like last month or so, no idea if they have changed faction or not. But most of the time when I`ve said anything bout how nemesis`s own members are getting tired of what`s going on, I`ve had more reasons for it than simply my own gut feeling.

But kitty calls the winner statement as "The mango factor" as it explains the event pretty well. For him, if you dont have gear, you dont have opinion, was actually told to kitty by Nemesis member, not something just from the back of my head. For him gear represents something, for most it got something to do with authority, bets if somebody in event gear gets spammed more bout their class than somebody in npc gear? For owning most of the map, Nemesis got more authority for granted than others, deserved or not. And for that their opinions are valued higher, it got nothing to do with the person itself giving opinion or the opinion itself but the faction the opinion comes from. It`s all just simplier to call it "the mango factor". I`m not saying somebody outside Nemesis couldnt have the biggest authority on our server, no, just on genelar members of nemesis have more of it due map. It goes other way around, simply being part of nemesis doesnt mean having inflated authority.

Ps. I

Pps. Are

Ppps. Doing

Pppps It

Ppppps. Again

Pppppps. kthxbai

Tamias - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

I thought it sounded a little like a stereotypical American foreign policy, but then, the USA is a Christian nation I suppose. b:chuckle

God, now that I think about it, it reminds me of radical Islam as well. Wtf, are all religions like this?

Erm...just to let you know...that's kind of offensive since Im Buddist...no not all religions are like that...Making comments LIKE that makes you look a bit narrowminded yourself, even if it's just a passing joke. That, or more like you appear ignorant, for those that can't tell you're joking...

And no before you go off "Buddhism isnt a religion it's a philosophy" please take a look at India, China and Japan before you say that...

Anyways to be on topic...

I already wrote a huge wall of text on another thread about what I feel but it's really more about TW "ethics" how the whole Rescind v Immunity thing went down and why ppl rehash drama all of which may or may not be relevant here. Instead of reposting that Ima just say that you can have the pelasure of reading that since I'm not too keen on repeating myself here...

EDIT I dont know if that last question WAS a retorical or not but it was kind of...not very funny...

AgentPotato - Archosaur

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Has it ever occured to you that maybe, just maybe we could have connections inside nemesis, somebody might call them friends? I myself got friends there, well been inactive lately, like last month or so, no idea if they have changed faction or not. But most of the time when I`ve said anything bout how nemesis`s own members are getting tired of what`s going on, I`ve had more reasons for it than simply my own gut feeling.

But kitty calls the winner statement as "The mango factor" as it explains the event pretty well. For him, if you dont have gear, you dont have opinion, was actually told to kitty by Nemesis member, not something just from the back of my head. For him gear represents something, for most it got something to do with authority, bets if somebody in event gear gets spammed more bout their class than somebody in npc gear? For owning most of the map, Nemesis got more authority for granted than others, deserved or not. And for that their opinions are valued higher, it got nothing to do with the person itself giving opinion or the opinion itself but the faction the opinion comes from. It`s all just simplier to call it "the mango factor". I`m not saying somebody outside Nemesis couldnt have the biggest authority on our server, no, just on genelar members of nemesis have more of it due map. It goes other way around, simply being part of nemesis doesnt mean having inflated authority.

Ps. I

Pps. Are

Ppps. Doing

Pppps It

Ppppps. Again

Pppppps. kthxbai

The entire reason I was posting about what studmuffin said was because he was appearing to make a blanket statement against all of nemesis and I dont think any faction deserves that, so there really is nothing that you said that I disagree with.

AgentPotato - Archosaur

Tamias - Archosaur wrote: »

Erm...just to let you know...that's kind of offensive since Im Buddist...no not all religions are like that...Making comments LIKE that makes you look a bit narrowminded yourself, even if it's just a passing joke. That, or more like you appear ignorant, for those that can't tell you're joking...

And no before you go off "Buddhism isnt a religion it's a philosophy" please take a look at India, China and Japan before you say that...

Anyways to be on topic...

I already wrote a huge wall of text on another thread about what I feel but it's really more about TW "ethics" how the whole Rescind v Immunity thing went down and why ppl rehash drama all of which may or may not be relevant here. Instead of reposting that Ima just say that you can have the pelasure of reading that since I'm not too keen on repeating myself here...

EDIT I dont know if that last question WAS a retorical or not but it was kind of...not very
funny...

Yeah, haha, my roommate is muslim, my family is christian, and I'm h.omo. Guess what kind of jokes appear most often when me and my friends hang out? Yeah... christian jokes, h.omo jokes, and muslim jokes. b:chuckle

Oh, and the question was a little rhetorical yes, but most religions, when made radical, do usually end up making followers that feel that if someone is not following their religion, that they are wrong, wrong, wrong. So I guess it wasn't really a joke or rhetorical tbh, its just how it is. Note I said 'most', and 'radical'. Religions also usually feel that their version of spirituality is the best and truest way.

But yes, what I said probably came off very closeminded, thanks for pointing it out.

Martin - Harshlands

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Ps. I

Pps. Are

Ppps. Doing

Pppps It

Ppppps. Again

Pppppps. kthxbai

Priceless, this has got to be your signature!

BTW stud I never left Arch server, simply changed my sig to an account that reminds me of good times. I don't login and apparently, I have missed nothing. Well unless a no-show tw is something =\

*edit*
I think when some people say this game is serious business as a joke, I beleive they are contradicting their own beliefs. Directed to anyone that uses the phrase.

Serious buizness bro!

*edit2*
I just noticed, I had this account for a full year longer then my arch one..only had 6x posts on it. Guess that means I was having too much fun playing a balanced game...those "good old days."

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

The entire reason I was posting about what studmuffin said was because he was appearing to make a blanket statement against all of nemesis and I dont think any faction deserves that, so there really is nothing that you said that I disagree with.

mhmmm studmuffin made this statement at kaiser and kaza... u ofcourse have no idea what the f'ck is going on with nemesis and us. wanna guees why? no? because ur neither in nemesis nor rescind so **** when u have no idea whats going on. ur a very good example of people with their head up the asses b:bye

p.s its studmuffinIX <--remember the nine b:angry

AgentPotato - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

mhmmm studmuffin made this statement at kaiser and kaza... u ofcourse have no idea what the f'ck is going on with nemesis and us. wanna guees why? no? because ur neither in nemesis nor rescind so **** when u have no idea whats going on. ur a very good example of people with their head up the asses b:bye

p.s its studmuffinIX <--remember the nine b:angry

I think I just got burned hardcore but I think I'm a little too burned to actually know for certain. b:surrender

Just for the record, I have plenty of other objects other than my head that can go you know where, in reality, I almost never resort to my head.

You say this about me: "because ur neither in nemesis nor rescind so **** when u have no idea whats going on." after making the kind of assumptions you just made against a faction you are not in, and tell me I cannot know what is going on?

Proclivity - Archosaur

bro....

_Pluto - Archosaur

Rescind might not be Elusive or Zulusive but most of you sure as hell still have the same attitude xD so what do you expect people to think.

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur

_Pluto - Archosaur wrote: »

Rescind might not be Elusive or Zulusive but most of you sure as hell still have the same attitude xD so what do you expect people to think.

do u change ur attitude everytime u change factions? if so, thats pretty interesting and u should probably see a shrink if thats the case.

fact- a lot of the people in this faction are ex elusive

also fact- those same ex elusive people only have opinions no power in this new faction (referring to proski here above the others). this faction belongs to proc and his word is final...

_Pluto - Archosaur

I hope you guys are right

KaiserNeko - Archosaur

StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »

Kaiser and kaza u guys have made post clearly stating the obvious truths of this server and it's recent events, yet people seem to turn a blind eye or just bs to it. I've finally figured it out. In this server people are too stupid or too ignorant to just accept the truth. People only listen to the power house of said server, and atm that's nemesis. So what ever they say goes (stupid as it may sound it's true -.-).

So here's how to fix that. We beat them. It's exactly how it happend with narla and elusive, people only realized how pathetic and shady narla had become after we beat them. So it looks like we'll have to do it again. And sorry to say but nemesis is the same old narla (same leader and director AND most officers are still the same). And sorry to inform u guys but rescind is not elusive. We have a different leader and different officers, yes a lot of the members are from elusive. But there is a simple reason why we are here, we didn't mix with the other factions on this server. We tried other factions (texas, immunity, etc.). The fact that the factions on this server feed their member **** and the people believe it isn't something that flies with most ex elusive members. We debate argue and seek the truth. And we now know the truth but these people have their heads so far up their asses that they won't accept it even when u say it to them and show them the proof. So for now just ignore true stupidity for now and focus on taking them down and once that's done show people it.



P.s even then who knows if they'll belive us or not and I just don't care anymore, I just feel bad for them

u sir are a gentlemen, i would like to invite u to my home. come so we may watch the game and enjoy many of the finest wines.