I feel sullied and unusual... BUT I NOTICED SOMETHING

LOKl_ - Harshlands
LOKl_ - Harshlands Posts: 241 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
ok so I was watching videos from PWCN and I was thinking "while I don't understand chinese I can relate because I have had an ex just like that.... WAIT A SECOND!!! THEY DON'T HAVE RUBBER BAND GLITCH NO FAIR!!!!!!!



So does that mean its gonna be fixed here???? or is it one of those cultural geographic specific things we keep getting thats just for us and makes our game better?
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    To the dev mind it makes the game experience better, hence it`s still effing here b:angry
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    ok so I was watching videos from PWCN and I was thinking "while I don't understand chinese I can relate because I have had an ex just like that.... WAIT A SECOND!!! THEY DON'T HAVE RUBBER BAND GLITCH NO F***ING FAIR!!!!!!!



    So does that mean its gonna be fixed here???? or is it one of those cultural geographic specific things we keep getting thats just for us and makes our game better?

    Uh oh, fire up the escape rockets, we're gonna need to get out of here!

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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    excluding vids that demonstrate rubberbanding (not sure if they exist), I doubt that there are any vids from pwi with rubberbanding either. most ppl would cut the scene they were rubberbanding anyway.

    dont know if some people rubberband all the time but i can go days without rubberbanding.
    i think i''ll start keeping track xd
  • skyraiserdm
    skyraiserdm Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    i noticed that there was less stucking in the air, but it's still there (mystic and seeker both playd to level 19)
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I know this is kinda something I shouldn't be saying but: the amount of rubberbanding depends from the amount of players that cause server lag. If you played a Chinese test server (or a test server from our version) alone, I doubt you'd experience any kind of rubberbanding. However, my tests were done back in 2008...
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  • ManeK - Harshlands
    ManeK - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    <~~~barely rubberbands now.. only the flyer thingy
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    excluding vids that demonstrate rubberbanding (not sure if they exist), I doubt that there are any vids from pwi with rubberbanding either. most ppl would cut the scene they were rubberbanding anyway.

    dont know if some people rubberband all the time but i can go days without rubberbanding.
    i think i''ll start keeping track xd



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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited February 2011

    so how is rubberband in chinese? b:chuckle

    dunno why but that vid made me think this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    so how is rubberband in chinese? b:chuckle

    dunno why but that vid made me think this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY

    Chinese rubber banding is mostly the same as American rubber banding. Well, maybe shorter and a lot more communist. b:shutup
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Chinese rubber banding is mostly the same as American rubber banding. Well, maybe shorter and a lot more communist. b:shutup

    And less racist. b:chuckle
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited February 2011

    That was because of all that complex water geometry! You need to find flatter water!!
  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    And on the last day, God fixed rubberbanding and all was well and the creatures rejoiced. Then they were all auto-AOE'd to death by an angry Seeker.
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  • sig1043a
    sig1043a Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I know this is kinda something I shouldn't be saying but: the amount of rubberbanding depends from the amount of players that cause server lag. If you played a Chinese test server (or a test server from our version) alone, I doubt you'd experience any kind of rubberbanding. However, my tests were done back in 2008...

    No, rubberbanding in pwi has little to do with lag. I am sure there are times where lag will cause rubberbanding, but in pwi, rubberbanding is an easily repeatable glitch. Don't believe me? Jump on top of any NPC's head and then try to run off. That type of rubberbanding has nothing to do with lag. It is a position-based glitch that has been around for as long as I can remember.

    I doubt it has been fixed in pwcn. Not many people will record it unless they are making fun of it.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I know this is kinda something I shouldn't be saying but: the amount of rubberbanding depends from the amount of players that cause server lag. If you played a Chinese test server (or a test server from our version) alone, I doubt you'd experience any kind of rubberbanding. However, my tests were done back in 2008...

    Umm.... you're half right.

    Rubber banding is sometimes due to lag. It can be server lag, it can also be caused intermittent internet lag as well. Some rubber banding issues are due to client/server communication or software. If you're on top of an npc and try to move off, there's a different cause for that as well. :P
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  • Opresor - Sanctuary
    Opresor - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    My wife use to rubberband constantly, after dying and releasing, leaving an instance and sometimes at regular intervals at about every 1.25 hours or so, she would have to reboot to fix it. Searched the forums for what seemed like ever looking for a solution and never found any. Decided to google this issue in other games and found the solution to her problem. It appears that multicore processors and this game do not get along very well and she is running an AMD dual core CPU. Downloaded and installed AMD's dual core optimizer which uses a different timing method and it completely solved her problems. If you rubberband a lot for no apparent reason try this, if you already have it installed and rubberband remove it. It's too easy to blame others instead of doing a little work yourself to fix your OWN issues.

    Still happens when landing on an NPC or water from a high altitude but flying and dropping again fixes that. This issues is not even worth bringing up again and again.

    And we have all experienced lag in game at some point, the game freezes for a sec then back to normal or skills take a few seconds to cast, never seen it rubberband from lag. Don't buy into this reason for it, it has nothing to do with it at all.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Dunno honestly, I cant PK that well on my barb as well, anybody can kite my barb, he rubberbands on landing, every single time. The OHT entering rubberbands on true form, not on humanoid... Dunno, I`m thinking maybe it`s just the game and not my end, things like being on true form or not shouldnt have any role on rubberbanding if it was due something on my end =/.
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  • Opresor - Sanctuary
    Opresor - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    IF it was game related everyone would rubberband every time they land dontcha think? Like everyone I know and all my chars and accounts rubberband after landing on an NPC and trying to run off, must be game related. If everyone else doesn't rubberband every time they land (not on an NPC) then it probably is something you can fix. Just sayin, my wife was fed up and ready to leave her 100 cleric to rot before I stumbled on her solution. It's a shame none of the tickets she submitted suggested she try this. Your on your own peeps, fix it yourself, obviously no one else will.

    Forgot that ONE ticket was replied to and she was told it was a problem with her DirectX installation. They were totally wrong. Keep that in mind.
  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    However, my tests were done back in 2008...

    Rubberbanding came after 2008. It wasn't an issue when I left the game in early 2009. It was an issue when I came back a month or so ago. Therefore it came in a patch/expansion.

    BTW, Opresor, they don't? "Set your affinity" has been a mantra from the GMs since day 1 of PWI, and many other MMOs using "older" engines.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rubberbanding came after 2008. It wasn't an issue when I left the game in early 2009. It was an issue when I came back a month or so ago. Therefore it came in a patch/expansion.

    BTW, Opresor, they don't? "Set your affinity" has been a mantra from the GMs since day 1 of PWI, and many other MMOs using "older" engines.

    Actually, it was around in '08. It had (seemingly) been fixed for a while, but then during a big patch update it came back, worse than before.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    You don't think they'll put rubberbanding in the official vid right?

    They just select the fragments without rubberband
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  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I still rubber band every day on every char I play, but I know what causes it and how to fix it for me.

    When Im flying and auto-pathing towards a position, and just before I get to that position I disable fly and fall down, I will rubber band almost 100% of the time. I then hit fly and when I'm on the flyer I move a centimeter away, wait till I stop, disable fly again and fall to the ground, and no rubber banding. This happens irrespective of where I cam on the map.

    As a side note I have an old acer computer which I have to play on lowest graphics and which has no dedicated gaming hardware whatsoever.

    The only difference I just thought of is my lvl 21 BM, which has no fly. If i jump into a rubber banding situation I usually have to log out and back in to fix it.
  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Actually, it was around in '08. It had (seemingly) been fixed for a while, but then during a big patch update it came back, worse than before.

    It wasn't around when I moved to PWI from another Perfect World that I think I'm not supposed to name (forum rules are vagueish here, since I'm not doing more than using as reference point), and it wasn't on the one I came from. So I'm curious when PWI was broken in beta with breakage other versions didn't have...
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  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    excluding vids that demonstrate rubberbanding (not sure if they exist), I doubt that there are any vids from pwi with rubberbanding either. most ppl would cut the scene they were rubberbanding anyway.

    dont know if some people rubberband all the time but i can go days without rubberbanding.
    i think i''ll start keeping track xd

    Watch my videos, rubberbanding happens there sometimes, xD
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  • Roseary - Sanctuary
    Roseary - Sanctuary Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Chinese rubber banding is mostly the same as American rubber banding. Well, maybe shorter and a lot more communist. b:shutup

    5 star post b:laugh
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  • LOKl_ - Harshlands
    LOKl_ - Harshlands Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    The big drop around 1:05 and the building under it. I can't do that at all no matter where I am. I have to fly or I am screwed. But thats just me personally.


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  • Opresor - Sanctuary
    Opresor - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Here's the info I found when searching for a solution. Several possible solutions if you continue to have issues.

    http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

    As far as using an older machine that barley runs the game then the solution is obvious, upgrade, or don't complain. Seriously, if you enter grand prix in a Datsun B210 you don't complain to race officials when you can't compete.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Here's the info I found when searching for a solution. Several possible solutions if you continue to have issues.

    http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

    As far as using an older machine that barley runs the game then the solution is obvious, upgrade, or don't complain. Seriously, if you enter grand prix in a Datsun B210 you don't complain to race officials when you can't compete.
    I have a brand new computer that was designed for gaming, I still rubberband, rubberbanding doesn't matter on the computer you have, it's a server problem.
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  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Here's the info I found when searching for a solution. Several possible solutions if you continue to have issues.

    http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

    As far as using an older machine that barley runs the game then the solution is obvious, upgrade, or don't complain. Seriously, if you enter grand prix in a Datsun B210 you don't complain to race officials when you can't compete.

    My old computer (back before rubberbanding) was extremely wimpy in comparison to my current computer (now with new and improved feature: rubberbanding!). My box blows away the minimum system requirements as if they were so ten years ago (wait, they are, aren't they?).

    And looking at your link, I don't see "Perfect World" in the list of games fixed by any of those solutions. Did you try them yourself?

    Also, note that one of the solutions given is bannable, as it modifies the game's executable... Be careful out there.
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  • Opresor - Sanctuary
    Opresor - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    My old computer (back before rubberbanding) was extremely wimpy in comparison to my current computer (now with new and improved feature: rubberbanding!). My box blows away the minimum system requirements as if they were so ten years ago (wait, they are, aren't they?).

    And looking at your link, I don't see "Perfect World" in the list of games fixed by any of those solutions. Did you try them yourself?

    Also, note that one of the solutions given is bannable, as it modifies the game's executable... Be careful out there.

    If you had actually read my previous posts, or any for that matter, you would know that I installed AMD's dual core optimizer on my wifes machine and it hasn't had any issues since. I posted so people with constant problems may find a solution and make the game more enjoyable. Just because perfect world isn't listed doesn't mean it wouldn't work. It's a shame there is so little helpful information from other people on these forums.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rubberbanding came after 2008. It wasn't an issue when I left the game in early 2009. It was an issue when I came back a month or so ago. Therefore it came in a patch/expansion.

    Rubberbanding has always been there if the server lag is high enough. Try to run PW server (anything from 2005 to 2011 version) on a P4 with 1gb ram and 500+ players and you'll see. b:chuckle

    On offical versions, I don't think there was that much rubberbanding pre-PWI. At least I can't really remember it.
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