Cleric's need vitality?
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SxeChik - Archosaur wrote: »LMFAO b:laugh^^ what she said.
As funny as a heavy armored cleric may sound, a heavy armored R8 cleric has almost the exact same magic attack as a pure mag cleric with a TT99 weapon. I don't see those clerics that can't afford R8 complain that they can't heal adequately, so I doubt it would be an issue with HA clerics.
(And for the record, I'm not trying to imply that a heavy cleric is a good build b:chuckle)was using a yaksa +0 with no shards, and have BB. I just couldn't heal the tanks that aren't barbs (before genesis expansion)
In red there; that would mean your cleric was between level 80-90. healing wannabe tanks is tough/impossible in that range, whether you're pure mag or not.even worse on healing, 7% of base magic potency nerf is a lot for heals because 93% which will be 20-50% of that 93%).
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Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »As funny as a heavy armored cleric may sound, a heavy armored R8 cleric has almost the exact same magic attack as a pure mag cleric with a TT99 weapon. I don't see those clerics that can't afford R8 complain that they can't heal adequately, so I doubt it would be an issue with HA clerics.
jeez, everybody knows that for pve you need r9+12 icebournes to heal efficiently otherwise today's tanks will have to spam defense charms, crab meat and apo b:avoidyou only purge once #yopo0 -
In conclusion, does clerics need vitality? Depends on how much VIT you have but a smart player don't need VIT on a caster class, utilize your skills on your cleric, you have plume shell / BB for a reason. Also from how well you prepare gear is important as well.
Even the smartest person 3k hp for cleric is not enough, plume shell can totally be a pain if you dont have mp charm (more for pvp & tw though).
How many cleric with 3-4k hp i see die at the 4th and last boss in caster even in BB and i never see a cleric low hp have good p.def, never saw a cleric with 3-4k hp have more than 2k p.def buffed.
I have 2 cleric, one vit (140 vit without gears) and one pure magic and on both i dont have heal problem at all.
And back in time before sin i just had my vit cleric and i had no problem to have a BM as tank for stuff like bh69 and i had no problem keep him alive, i didnt had a super powerfull weap i think i had a normal tt80 or aquaride.
And i didnt try HA or LA but im prolly sure i could do the same job cause i know my class and im good.
In pve if you are skilled nvm the stats of the cleric you will be able to do ur job. The rest is a personnal preference, but u still need a minimum of survavibility when you are pure magic cause u stopped play cleric at lvl 8x as i understand which mean u dunno how much hp & p.def is enough to survive.
And pure magic in pvp and tw suck unless u have pro op gears well refine and shard. which is not the case of the majority of pure magic.
And to finish it, many people dont even know what pure magic mean, i meet often some cleric with low hp (like 3-4k hp) and they say ''oh ye i have low hp but its cause im pure magic'' you ask him how many points in magic and he answer you 400 magic point gears on.... and trust me i see that often.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »As funny as a heavy armored cleric may sound, a heavy armored R8 cleric has almost the exact same magic attack as a pure mag cleric with a TT99 weapon. I don't see those clerics that can't afford R8 complain that they can't heal adequately, so I doubt it would be an issue with HA clerics.
(And for the record, I'm not trying to imply that a heavy cleric is a good build b:chuckle)
In red there; that would mean your cleric was between level 80-90. healing wannabe tanks is tough/impossible in that range, whether you're pure mag or not.
Post that in the archer forums, please. It would make for a good laugh.
Rank 8 or above gives overkill magic attack, so it won't really be much of a matter of what build you have anyway. Same weapon would be a much larger difference... On top of that, going HA on a cleric is beyond bad, you won't have a problem tanking archer mobs, but you expect to go close to close combat? It is easier for spells to get canceled because they hit faster with normal attacks rather than magic attacks, but you have less M.DEF. Good thing you are not implying that HA cleric is a good build when it is not because they have no melee attacks anyway. This is the wrong game, there's no such thing as paladins in this game.
I made a new cleric with pure magic, I healed more effectively than I did as pure VIT, it is still a bit tough to keep wannabe tanks alive and it is less impossible. Also that was when my gear was not even sharded so I'd add sapphires to help healing much better. The few boost in magical attack actually applies to siren's kiss / thunderball yet still a noticeable difference, the other skills are a different story.
Here's a sample for a 7x cleric with same weapon and rings
Minimum magic - http://pwcalc.com/7aebb8d4ca7d7555 (3763-3815 m.atk)
Pure magic - http://pwcalc.com/2437e5d30c582570 (4776-4840 m.atk)
The average difference between them is
4808-3879=929 m.atk difference, where pure magic is really 123.9%, that is calculated.Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Even the smartest person 3k hp for cleric is not enough, plume shell can totally be a pain if you dont have mp charm (more for pvp & tw though).
How many cleric with 3-4k hp i see die at the 4th and last boss in caster even in BB and i never see a cleric low hp have good p.def, never saw a cleric with 3-4k hp have more than 2k p.def buffed.
I have 2 cleric, one vit (140 vit without gears) and one pure magic and on both i dont have heal problem at all.
And back in time before sin i just had my vit cleric and i had no problem to have a BM as tank for stuff like bh69 and i had no problem keep him alive, i didnt had a super powerfull weap i think i had a normal tt80 or aquaride.
And i didnt try HA or LA but im prolly sure i could do the same job cause i know my class and im good.
In pve if you are skilled nvm the stats of the cleric you will be able to do ur job. The rest is a personnal preference, but u still need a minimum of survavibility when you are pure magic cause u stopped play cleric at lvl 8x as i understand which mean u dunno how much hp & p.def is enough to survive.
And pure magic in pvp and tw suck unless u have pro op gears well refine and shard. which is not the case of the majority of pure magic.
And to finish it, many people dont even know what pure magic mean, i meet often some cleric with low hp (like 3-4k hp) and they say ''oh ye i have low hp but its cause im pure magic'' you ask him how many points in magic and he answer you 400 magic point gears on.... and trust me i see that often.
Yes, survivability matters which is why refining robes are pretty much a must, I'd ask how is it even possible to have under 4k HP at 100, and 3k at 90. Sure there are such people are too poor to decently gear their clerics, it is not hard to get 5k or more HP with just refines alone though.
Another thing I do not understand is how can a 100+ "pure magic" cleric have 400 magic points with gear on as "pure magic". That is easy to get as 80ish as a pure magic cleric even without a tome... 371 points in magic, 44 points in STR for a level 82 cleric as base magic points and only missing 29 more points which can easily be gained through this gear without spending much money.0 -
Trust me i saw a lot of cleric lvl 100+ with 3-4k hp.
And i said that some people ''claim'' be pure magic but just have 400 magic points which is not pure magic (the person have poitns in other stats), for some reason some people think that 400+ point is pure magic.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Trust me i saw a lot of cleric lvl 100+ with 3-4k hp.
And i said that some people ''claim'' be pure magic but just have 400 magic points which is not pure magic (the person have poitns in other stats), for some reason some people think that 400+ point is pure magic.
Well, I can't say that is hard to believe since there are too many frost babies that is possible I guess. For the people that think 400 points is pure magic, which can be gained easily gained in late level 80s. They must have stats in other attributes (Or did they even put points? IDK) and end up with less than 4k HP at that level?0 -
Well, I can't say that is hard to believe since there are too many frost babies that is possible I guess. For the people that think 400 points is pure magic, which can be gained easily gained in late level 80s. They must have stats in other attributes (Or did they even put points? IDK) and end up with less than 4k HP at that level?
I see sometime cleric with 75 strg and 50 dexterity and they are AA so no clues why people why they do that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Trust me i saw a lot of cleric lvl 100+ with 3-4k hp.
And i said that some people ''claim'' be pure magic but just have 400 magic points which is not pure magic (the person have poitns in other stats), for some reason some people think that 400+ point is pure magic.
Its simple to know if a cleric at lvl 100 is not pure. Look at their mp, anything below 10k is not pure.lalalala Pokemon
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Well, I can't say that is hard to believe since there are too many frost babies that is possible I guess. For the people that think 400 points is pure magic, which can be gained easily gained in late level 80s. They must have stats in other attributes (Or did they even put points? IDK) and end up with less than 4k HP at that level?
typical -chan cleric/wizzie/psy with 3.5k hp
http://pwcalc.com/b01d80a9ba0a7317
psy being the failest of all
assume some amount of chan in orns, shards are garnets
variations: morai pants (worse) boots (better), unsharded, unrefined.you only purge once #yopo0 -
PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »typical -chan cleric/wizzie/psy with 3.5k hp
http://pwcalc.com/b01d80a9ba0a7317
psy being the failest of all
assume some amount of chan in orns, shards are garnets
variations: morai pants (worse) boots (better), unsharded, unrefined.
Yup but generally they use R8 pants for more magic. I see a lot of people with R8 pants in all AA class.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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http://pwcalc.com/0dd3b31878e3d368
This is my planned build. See the gears i modifyed em to be 100% identical to g15 morai just cant add the warding lvls to pwcalc.
They are much cheaper to get than tt99/r8, easy to make 4 socket.. just farming. Helm got +7 refine cuz this gear refine higher than g13 oht.
Stones are morai explosive garnets, thats why i put 3 g9 and 1 g10 in each gear cuz morai are +70 pdef. Also cheap to get (farming them parallel on alt) 1.5mil each.
The weapon... well its like +3 +4 refine r8.. and similar one can be bought for less than 20 mil with the refine and everything. The cape also... like 10-15 mil.. good of this is that they are not that hard to find and will cost u much less if u buy ady refined/sharded item than do it by urself. (r8 is 100 mil, 2 mil weapon, +8 refine is 50-60 mil.)
Neck/belt/rings.. well they are cheap and nice. Rings might be also other -6% chant+some nice stat instead of fc gold.
With this build ill have 5k hp with pure int, but i personally preffer 6k hp unbuffed /ahh and 6k pdef b:laugh /.
Differene in dmgs is 10.1 vs 11.8k... soo 100 vit is 16% less magic dmg/heals. But with so many pdef stones i really preffer to put 100 vit to get decent hp b:bye .
Ahh and all this awesome build (dont forget warding lvls) cost less than 200 mil...
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SxeChik - Archosaur wrote: »My cleric has 180 vit. I enjoy playing her a lot b:cute. Of course I have no problem with aoe bosses (6k HP unbuff), but the catch is I hit 1k5 - 2k weaker than pure build cleric b:sad
My only advice: If you have money to refine gears, and can afford decent HP shards, then go pure. Otherwise, hybrid (vit build) seems better b:cute Like the above posts said, a cleric SHOULD have 5k hp at lvl 100 (of course I've seen cleric w 4k sth HP did fantastically, but wouldn't it be easier for you to take care of the squad if you have 5k HP?)
1k5-2k weaker? Is that with or w/o amp, HF, mdef reduction, etc?
Afford decent HP shards? -lol: Don't shard HP. -REFINE!0 -
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http://pwcalc.com/0dd3b31878e3d368
This is my planned build. See the gears i modifyed em to be 100% identical to g15 morai just cant add the warding lvls to pwcalc.
They are much cheaper to get than tt99/r8, easy to make 4 socket.. just farming. Helm got +7 refine cuz this gear refine higher than g13 oht.
Stones are morai explosive garnets, thats why i put 3 g9 and 1 g10 in each gear cuz morai are +70 pdef. Also cheap to get (farming them parallel on alt) 1.5mil each.
The weapon... well its like +3 +4 refine r8.. and similar one can be bought for less than 20 mil with the refine and everything. The cape also... like 10-15 mil.. good of this is that they are not that hard to find and will cost u much less if u buy ady refined/sharded item than do it by urself. (r8 is 100 mil, 2 mil weapon, +8 refine is 50-60 mil.)
Neck/belt/rings.. well they are cheap and nice. Rings might be also other -6% chant+some nice stat instead of fc gold.
With this build ill have 5k hp with pure int, but i personally preffer 6k hp unbuffed /ahh and 6k pdef b:laugh /.
Differene in dmgs is 10.1 vs 11.8k... soo 100 vit is 16% less magic dmg/heals. But with so many pdef stones i really preffer to put 100 vit to get decent hp b:bye .
Ahh and all this awesome build (dont forget warding lvls) cost less than 200 mil...
Why do i feel like the only cleric that uses a physical ring? Is channeling really that important to you all?lalalala Pokemon
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Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »Why do i feel like the only cleric that uses a physical ring? Is channeling really that important to you all?
Its not just chan, i use lunar ring for the def, chan & att.
that been stat in many previous thread that phys. ring dont worth it on cleric.
Lunar is the best ring you can have (maybe angel ring too i dont remember stats)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Its not just chan, i use lunar ring for the def, chan & att.
that been stat in many previous thread that phys. ring dont worth it on cleric.
Lunar is the best ring you can have (maybe angel ring too i dont remember stats)
isnt angel ring a pack item to exchange for flyers? o.oyou only purge once #yopo0 -
I personally use two Lunar mag rings because I have this terrible thing about having ~27% chan. >.>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »isnt angel ring a pack item to exchange for flyers? o.o
I dunno the name of the ring and the stats, i thin its look like a gold ring on pink think but still,
my point is just that lunar is the best and magic ring are better than physique ring for cleric.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Its not just chan, i use lunar ring for the def, chan & att.
that been stat in many previous thread that phys. ring dont worth it on cleric.
Lunar is the best ring you can have (maybe angel ring too i dont remember stats)
um really? You want to give up extra pdef just for magic attack channel and magic defense? Really?
Lets have a look then how much you get benefited. I +12'd everything to show a clear difference.
http://pwcalc.com/ea3fd0e6db075cc7 Physical Ring
http://pwcalc.com/86134dfea4e39517 Magical Ring
So let me get this straight, you want to trade in 4k pdef buffed~ for 3k mag def 6% channeling and a estimation of 700 mag attack? Really, we get enough mag defense off our armors, we dont need a ring to give us more.
What most people dont understand about defense levels is, in order for it to work properly, your base defenses should be high enough.lalalala Pokemon
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Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »um really? You want to give up extra pdef just for magic attack channel and magic defense? Really?
...SNIP...
What most people dont understand about defense levels is, in order for it to work properly, your base defenses should be high enough.
The point you missed, I think, is that the lunar ring has 250 pdef already (the def to which Bella was referring). That requires a +5 or +6 (I forget) refine on a Sky Cover to match. Not to mention, magic rings are cheaper than physical rings due to lower demand. I'll admit refines are a moot point because, if you can afford a sky cover, you can afford at least +10.
Granted I didn't read the majority of the thread (because I am just so tired of reading these types of threads) but I didn't see any particular mention about defense levels in the first place. So why bring that up at all? Furthermore, no caster class refines magic rings specifically for mdef (unless they wear HA or LA perhaps), and that wasn't the point she was making either.
Maybe I am just a purist, though. I never had the impetus to highly refine a physical ring for pdef.Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »um really? You want to give up extra pdef just for magic attack channel and magic defense? Really?
Lets have a look then how much you get benefited. I +12'd everything to show a clear difference.
http://pwcalc.com/ea3fd0e6db075cc7 Physical Ring
http://pwcalc.com/86134dfea4e39517 Magical Ring
So let me get this straight, you want to trade in 4k pdef buffed~ for 3k mag def 6% channeling and a estimation of 700 mag attack? Really, we get enough mag defense off our armors, we dont need a ring to give us more.
What most people dont understand about defense levels is, in order for it to work properly, your base defenses should be high enough.
http://pwcalc.com/f2a5b0661f088e15 <-magic ring
http://pwcalc.com/2cab2e1d9ead081f <- phys. ring
Tell me again phys. rings are better for cleric pls.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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SxeChik - Archosaur wrote: »1k5 - 2k weaker without amp. Yet I have no problem with healing/ DD-ing. And I did say "Refine" too. So calm down
Do idiots know they're idiots? My stepfather was great at math. -He could add any single digit to another single digit! He had no problem at math or breathing. You could ask him about his math prowess, but he died for being an idiot. No res or go to town in RL. All do just fine in PW. b:victoryBe kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
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Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »This is an ironic statement >:o
He is like that in all the class sections , seems he is on his bad days lately. Purely annoying , and ironic like you said[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »He is like that in all the class sections , seems he is on his bad days lately. Purely annoying , and ironic like you said
wasnt he always like that? xdyou only purge once #yopo0 -
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »http://pwcalc.com/f2a5b0661f088e15 <-magic ring
http://pwcalc.com/2cab2e1d9ead081f <- phys. ring
Tell me again phys. rings are better for cleric pls.
First of all i said use ONE physical ring not TWO. If you looked at my builds it clearly shows one physical ring. Second of all why not +12 the rings in your builds too, you still benefit more from the all physicals. But again i said ONE physical ring not TWO.
Edit: I know this is going about the channeling. I was also afraid to switch to one physical ring cause of the channeling, but i did and you know what you dont even feel the difference. Also the pdef benefits you more.
PS: one more example
My build next "Proper" 10* sale http://pwcalc.com/88b28690eecd5523
compared to full mag rings: http://pwcalc.com/d4b45d3cf5b08272
All in all i stand by my theory a mix of physical ring and magical ring is much more beneficial than all magic rings.lalalala Pokemon
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PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »wasnt he always like that? xd
There was a time he was kind , helpful and open to new ideas. By the time his golden budda become more and more obsolete plus people started to prefer APS , his attitude has changed thoroughly.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »First of all i said use ONE physical ring not TWO. If you looked at my builds it clearly shows one physical ring. Second of all why not +12 the rings in your builds too, you still benefit more from the all physicals. But again i said ONE physical ring not TWO.
Edit: I know this is going about the channeling. I was also afraid to switch to one physical ring cause of the channeling, but i did and you know what you dont even feel the difference. Also the pdef benefits you more.
PS: one more example
My build next "Proper" 10* sale http://pwcalc.com/88b28690eecd5523
compared to full mag rings: http://pwcalc.com/d4b45d3cf5b08272
All in all i stand by my theory a mix of physical ring and magical ring is much more beneficial than all magic rings.
So you are not even +10
+10 give u 673 p.def more
+9 give u 442 p.def more
+8 give u 265 p.def more
+7 give u 131 p.def more
+6 give u 25 p.def more
+5 give u less p.def than a magic lunar ring
So from what i saw basicly that dont worth it unless +8 and more and even that a lot of people will not want pay a 40m ring and pay i dont know how many money to +8 a ring to get 265 p.def more but loose -6%chan.
For the money to +10 ur phys ring just remove ur immaculate cit. from 2 pieces of gears (all ur gears shard in cit not even a piece in garnet) and shard in exclusive garnet. On 2 pieces of gears you will get the same amount of p.def than with ur ring with keep -6% chan save a LOT of money and just loose 400hp and for that i know a lot of cleric who would not care to loose 400hp for -6% chan and save a LOT of money too. (how many cleric i see use chan ornements to get chan even if they loose hp by not using sky demon or w/e which ornement that peope use which give hp)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »So you are not even +10
+10 give u 673 p.def more
+9 give u 442 p.def more
+8 give u 265 p.def more
+7 give u 131 p.def more
+6 give u 25 p.def more
+5 give u less p.def than a magic lunar ring
So from what i saw basicly that dont worth it unless +8 and more and even that a lot of people will not want pay a 40m ring and pay i dont know how many money to +8 a ring to get 265 p.def more but loose -6%chan.
For the money to +10 ur phys ring just remove ur immaculate cit. from 2 pieces of gears (all ur gears shard in cit not even a piece in garnet) and shard in exclusive garnet. On 2 pieces of gears you will get the same amount of p.def than with ur ring with keep -6% chan save a LOT of money and just loose 400hp and for that i know a lot of cleric who would not care to loose 400hp for -6% chan and save a LOT of money too. (how many cleric i see use chan ornements to get chan even if they loose hp by not using sky demon or w/e which ornement that peope use which give hp)
You still want to argue that physical rings are useless? I plan on sharding jades so i have no intention of changing my shards. 75% of my gear is +10 and again physical ring has benefited me more than 2 magical rings. And maybe i didn't make myself clear, i said only to use a physical ring if you have a plan on how you could afford the refines. But anyway this is a pointless argument. You obviously are fixated on your opinion and wont even try to discuss another opinion I work for end game gear i dont work for pointless temporary things that im just going to change later, im a merchant its how i work.
Didn't you say earlier its useless for cleric but useful for a psy? So what makes it so different? Just cause Psy's have almost instant cast?
PWI is around for 4 or 5 years this year, and clerics are still so fixated on old things like channeling.
But be honest with me, what would benefit a cleric more end game? (as in +10 everything) 2 magical rings or 1 magical and 1 physical?
In the end its about preference, i prefer to have more pdef over mag att/channeling/mag defense. And you the other way.lalalala Pokemon
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Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »Didn't you say earlier its useless for cleric but useful for a psy? So what makes it so different? Just cause Psy's have almost instant cast?
huh? where u saw me talk about psy?? i dont have psy and its not a class i know so i really doubt that i spoke about psy stuff.
You are prolly the one who need to go learn to read ijs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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