Cleric gear at lvl 90 - need opinions

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

Hello im raising a cleric atm , he's still low lvl but i find it usefull to make some plans for the future.
Here is the link : http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=17d29afe1d2dec1f
The only things i want to keep the same are the weapon and the armor , plus the shards and refines that i have chosen for them . I need some opinions on hat, rings , cape and ornaments.
At lvl 89 ill choose Demon ( and pls dont start the sage/demon war b:cry , that's not my purpose and i wont change my opinionb:surrender) if that helps with anything. Buffs are applied

Ty in advance

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cce2b6f97bb7fc01

fixed that for ya


1. why full hp-shard? too low base HP to shard fully with garnet

2. why those rings? ur old ones sucked badly, and rings like those can be bought for ~100k-200k or for 500k-1m with 3rd HP / mag attack / crit bonus add

3. this mold neckl or 90 gold TT > all

4. belt.. it is pretty common to find those belts with 120hp add. u can also look for something better (OHT) or get 90lvl reward from OHT culti



btw, that cape must be super expensive and it kinda suck for it price i guess

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

i dont know im always confused on whether I should go garnet or citrine , but on the other hand i won't add more to Vit , do u agree with that ??? as for the rings and belt ill try to get those or sth better than that. The necklace , yes i like it too b:laugh . Ty for ur advice b:victory

Decus - Dreamweaver

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

btw, that cape must be super expensive and it kinda suck for it price i guess

Actually it's impossible to get now, that was the gold FC magic cape that you could make with old FC mats and decomposing an FC green cape.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cce2b6f97bb7fc01

..isnt that a little too squishy tho? Lv90 their base defense is less than 2k

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

mmm that's bad , i liked it's stats , anyway i'll search a good 3* then

Decus - Dreamweaver

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i dont know im always confused on whether I should go garnet or citrine , but on the other hand i won't add more to Vit , do u agree with that ??? as for the rings and belt ill try to get those or sth better than that. The necklace , yes i like it too b:laugh . Ty for ur advice b:victory

Nothing wrong with 20 base vit if you are comfortable with it. As for garnet vs citrine, the threads are ENDLESS. Just search and you'll find a billion.

I would aim for AT LEAST 4.5k pdef with self buffs and (if you can manage it) 5k HP. But that's just my opinion. If you are really into PvP/TW, then your standards might change accordingly.

RedsRose - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

..isnt that a little too squishy tho? Lv90 their base defense is less than 2k

^ This

Go for:

HH90 Gold Neck (+3)
Get a Cape with added HP/Pdef and shard with Garnets (+3)
Rings I think you can do much better...added HP/Mag Attk

^ The above would give you about 3.2k self-buffed pdef at your level and about 4.3k hp (minus any additional add-ons). Which is still not enough imo. TBH, I would test out a base vit of 50 and see how it goes, then take out as you feel you need.


I do agree with Decus though in general:

I would aim for AT LEAST 4.5k pdef with self buffs and (if you can manage it) 5k HP.

^ can be obtained with +5 adorns and +5 on a few of the armors.

(calc is being dumb for me but when I get it up I'll see about doing a build )

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

OK ty for ur help everybody, ill stick with citrines for now and i'm mostly inot PVE but i may do PVP later. I'll try get some good 3* and maybe refine the armor a bit more maybe to 4 or 5. Thanks again b:pleased

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

damn pwcalc down again

can give some approximate numbers tho


it would look like that:

with squad buffs garnet build would let her take 4.7% p.dmg more

-||- citrine build would let her take 16% m.dmg more



if someone is desperate for any p.def then gaining that 4.7% while loosing 16% may suit him i guess



up to u what you will do GuinevirX, it is always good to make decisons knowlingly


and btw -with all respect- Rose, but those 'golden quote rules' dont not apply always.

You can achieve same effect by different builds: cleric with 10k HP and 0 physical resistance = cleric with 5k HP and 50% p.def

Trick is to find point where sharding p.def will be cheaper (more effective) than HP, and you wont loose too much mag. def.


Thats all, simple math - easy formula:

(for damage you can take with your current hp and resistance)

tankable dmg = HP / (1-resistance*)


QFT plz and stop posting 4 digit defence stats - those numbers gives no info for normal people :P

RedsRose - Lost City

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

those 'golden quote rules' dont not apply always.

OP asked for advice...trust me if calc was up we could have have a shot at this and others would understand.

I personally am more on the garnet sharding side but did not post my opinion on that as the OP seems to like HP in favor of the pdef.


Overall though I am sorry but 2k base pdef at level 90 is just not enough in either of those builds....b:sweatb:surrender

It is not about right or wrong or math...it is about what works best for the OP and his/her play style and where they want to go or do.

Damn calc...b:cry

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

well, that is just OP squishiness and budget. i made with that budget quite optimal build imo

she cant just get 5k hp and 53% p.def outta hat. +5 refine on armor/ornaments on 90lvl dont happens too often any more



anywayz, for pve build from link will work if OP know how to play


serious pvp/tw starts on 100lvl with much better stats anyway

RedsRose - Lost City

[QUOTE=Paramedic - Dreamweaver;9337622serious pvp/tw starts on 100lvl with much better stats anyway[/QUOTE]

Now yeah...

I miss the old 6x TW"s and when +5 with G6/7 shards was OP b:chuckleb:sad

I do however do not think that +4/5 HH90 is far off and can be done on a budget, it is just the refining risk with mirages and tiek stones

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

Lol the posts confused me a bit. The Calc is still down and i can't compare , anyway till now i hit good on phys attacking mobs, problem is that i dont know what to expect on 90+ , + HP shards were always appealing to me cause it protects me from both phys and mag dmg. i may do a calculation with HP sharded armor and garnet cape/hat. We will see b:pleased !

P.S. Im a boy , hence the male cleric in profile. My arhcer is just a smexy girl , nothing more xD xD

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

dont worry. we just use ur topic to argue about stuff..


anyway, comparing defences (vel sharding garnet vs citrine) is easy and everyone can do it without complex math


first you make two toons in pwcalc, one with p.def stones and 2nd with HP:

if 'garnet toon' has 4000 HP, 40% p.resistance and and 70% m.resistance

and 'citrine char' 4500 HP, 32% p.resistance and 70% m.resistance



then you just need to make 4 short calculations:

tankable dmg = HP / (1-resistance)


1a) 4000 / (1 -0.4) = 6667

1b) 4000 / (1 -0.7) = 13333


garnet cler can tank 6667 p.dmg and 13333 m.dmg


2a) 4500 / (1 -0.32) = 6617

2b) 4500 / (1 -0.7) = 15000

citrine cler can tank 6617 p.dmg and 15000 m.dmg


as you can see -just in this example- difference in defences against p.dmg between those clers is minimal while difference in defence against m.dmg is quite big: garnets are not worth considering in this case


to some point HP is favored in this game, thats why f.e. vit cler have better (both) defences than LA cler if you dont consider high refines.


anyway, you start to shard with garnet when you have enough hp against magic (in your opinion), and when f.e. 1 garnet gem would give you ~2x (or 1.5x at least if you desperate) p.defence more than 1 citrine gem

no point in blindy sharding with any type of gems if you get similar results



(yea, i know i write a lot, but that just for QFT purposes

GuinevirX - Heavens Tear

NP writing a lot , haha , it's helpful not troll post so dont worry about that . I decided to keep on Citrines till lvl 90 armor then ill see what im gonna do past lvl 90+ and will choose the shards that will help me

Magicgabe - Lost City

I personally went citrine for hat and cape and garnet for all others. The last item I imbued was my sleeves with 3 g7 garnet. I regret my decision as my true phy deff only rose by 1%. So moral is....;


you need a balance of phy def and HP. And don't forget, that you'll still need to somehow deal with mag attacks. Archers, clerics, and wizards use primarily mag attacks to kill me now.