OPINION: Packs Have ruined the game.

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  • TehKin - Lost City
    TehKin - Lost City Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    drjiggle wrote: »
    Yes and no.

    They're one of the things that has ruined or is ruining the game, but they aren't the only one, and I'm not even sure they were the first. I won't get into listing the other factors. I think we all mostly know what they are, even though we may disagree on one or two.

    Unfortunately, it's a Pandora's Box. It's open. You can't close it now. Taking them out permanently would cause even more ruin. It's bad enough that they haven't included Heavenrage Boots or Helm of Holy Punishment in any of the recent packs. It would be even worse if you had the same problem with all of the pack related items.

    I'm not sure I can offer any really constructive suggestions at this point, though I do wish they'd just own up to reality and put them in permanently. Maybe rebalancing the PvE methods for obtaining the items would help, but that would obviously cut into profits, so it's probably not a very realistic solution.

    It's true the packs aren't the only contributing factor. The perfect hammers, chest of coins are all also to blame with ruining the economy, but those items don't inject gear from nothingness either. Before packs, the only way to obtain Frost weapons was to actually farm frost. Same with lunar weapons. They had really low drop rates simply because of how powerful they were. It kind of defeats the point of them being rare when you give them out in every pack all the time..
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    That's the Psychic ranked gear.....I know, I spent hours drooling at the stats. b:sad
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    IDk why you keep saying how the prices of those items are crazy when the packs are gone. Did you forget what the prices for those items were back before packs? Did you get use to the relative lower price? Or were you just not here?

    Back when lvl50 supply box was worth opening, the flawless I got from it sold for 800k. They are what, 250k at the most while packs are gone? Teles use to be like 20k and I've remember paying over 30k for some when I really needed. The most I've seen them go up to was 14k these days.

    I won't deny that packs have dramatically changed the game, and it's true that merchanting became the main way to make money. I consider market researching and merchanting as part of the game so I don't mind.

    I do understand where your coming from - general inflation in the game even without packs, shows clearly. However, without packs things DO go up in price. Prime examples are when teles become having to be bought via Boutique due to lack of tokens in the economy. This puts teles at 20k+ easily, as gold prices even w/ out packs due to p-hammers and constant sales, are still going to be very high. End-game gear - where does it come from? Packs. No one farms that stuff nowadays, or - very few people do at that. No packs in Boutique for a month, and where does this end-game gear come from? No where, as your stuck w/ the same end-game gear from the packs a month ago. Prices for that rise , which in return causes people to need more coin to buy that gear. More coin needed w/ no way to make coin besides's farming 3-3 for gold mats, Nirvana, and merchanting isn't going to work well. Basically - with packs we're not happy (As a general community census). Without packs - we will be unhappy (As a general community census).
  • Noob - Raging Tide
    Noob - Raging Tide Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    yes.

    2 more months till PWI released 2nd anniversary packs
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    yes.

    2 more months till PWI released 2nd anniversary packs

    That is about right, wonder what will be the new "anniversary item".
    WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.
  • Vixre - Harshlands
    Vixre - Harshlands Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yes .. we all know about the packs.. in my term these packs are know as " PWIs Key item for making cash" other wise they wouldnt keep coming up with new packs and releasing the same ones. Ever since Tiger packs came out i belive the game has hit a all time low. I used to play this game ALOT.. and loved the classes, AH system, Mounts, PK. Pretty much everything about the game. That was the old days.. PWI is Abusing these packs, and many of us players have relized this. These packs have greatly altered the economy, out blanceing game play vs marketing. I have noticed i am spending more time marketing then actually playing the game... Quest are stacking.. No time for Dailies.. spending more then half the day in a cash shop all just to have money to play the game.. Now i know many of you disagree with me, and love the packs. but this is just my opinion of the game, so just take it lightly. It has now been a month since i last played PWI. i have moved on to a new rpg. which is not over powerd by cash shoppers. I can atually play the game rather then spend my whole day marketing. I am positive i wil eventually unistall the game. But it sadens me to think about the old days. and how much i loved playing pwi.


    -Rest In Peace Perfect World of 2009 september =(

    A picture is worth a thousand words, so let me explain the reasoning of this in a picture D:

    ijst.jpg
    Perfect World's stock from 8/31/09~9/15/09.

    IJS.

    And... meh, think about it, people that makes/hosts this game has families to feed as well, and we're still all playing this game lol.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    A picture is worth a thousand words, so let me explain the reasoning of this in a picture D:

    http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2739/ijst.jpg
    Perfect World's stock from 8/31/09~9/15/09.

    IJS.

    And... meh, think about it, people that makes/hosts this game has families to feed as well, and we're still all playing this game lol.

    Thats only showing less than a month b:shocked

    Now this may tell you guys why so many packs...
    stock.jpg

    Now according to this chart from CNBC, I'm just expecting something huge to happen.

    SQUARE ENIX, Creators of the Final Fantasy series, is supposed to be backing up Perfect World International, or that's what I heard. IMO that is a big deal. Everyone noticed it, with the PVP Tournament going on.

    I expect more changes to happen REALLY SOON, lets see what SQUARE ENIX and PWE have for us!
    b:bye
    WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.
  • Ganden - Sanctuary
    Ganden - Sanctuary Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yea Pwi was a great game,i just wish it didnt get ruined by packs
  • Salamandrai - Sanctuary
    Salamandrai - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    cant really judge if packs were to blame because i aint played pwi in nearly a year, but i remember when i did play gold charms were like 300k each, easy to farm that much money, now there 1.2-1.5m not as easy to farm. Something decreased prices on some things but also increased it on others.
  • Luckyrose - Harshlands
    Luckyrose - Harshlands Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Packs equal pain b:sad nuff said. And Duke is now the most hated person on my server...and he isnt even real. b:surrender
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thank You Forsaken :)