QQ at being able to level faster now

Beanette - Lost City

OK, I remember leveling my venomancer over the summer and it took me about 3 months to hit 90 with her. With the new 3-a-day BHs, Marriage quest, Tideborn Quests, hyperstones, and frost run revamps leveling to 90 has gotten way too easy. Hell I am leveling my warrior and the amount of time I spend on him a day (1 hour ish) equates to the 5-6 hours of work I put into my veno... so what I am really trying to say is ... QQ !

Do you remember when you had to level "legit"? Or am I just reminiscing too far back?

Paimage - Harshlands

Beanette - Lost City wrote: »

OK, I remember leveling my venomancer over the summer and it took me about 3 months to hit 90 with her. With the new 3-a-day BHs, Marriage quest, Tideborn Quests, hyperstones, and frost run revamps leveling to 90 has gotten way too easy. Hell I am leveling my warrior and the amount of time I spend on him a day (1 hour ish) equates to the 5-6 hours of work I put into my veno... so what I am really trying to say is ... QQ !

Do you remember when you had to level "legit"? Or am I just reminiscing too far back?

cba about lvling, I worry more about being able to pvp against ppl with same lvls.

Ranfa - Dreamweaver

Well, it is rather disturbing to see people reaching lvl 100 daily.
Why just the other day this lvl 100-ish BM WC'd for a squad to do his TT1-1 quest. I also know he does quite a number of FC runs daily. Didn't know what to think of it...

When I rolled my BM there was already BH but leveling through 60's was nowhere as easy as it is now. With Tideborn quests 40-60 is practically non-existent, and my Assassin is already at lvl 77 which took my BM good several months to reach.

But each to their own. Some people like leveling faster, though most people tend to get bored and leave.

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

I remember back in the day...

*sigh*

Whatever happened to 'Thou shall grind thine own EXP'?

Quilue - Sanctuary

people that level fast like this usually need to already have a high level character to support them or they end up dirt poor.

or...they must cash shop.

then again, what coins you can get from grinding is insignificant compared to the costs of high level gear these days anyway...

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Beanette - Lost City wrote: »

OK, I remember leveling my venomancer over the summer and it took me about 3 months to hit 90 with her. With the new 3-a-day BHs, Marriage quest, Tideborn Quests, hyperstones, and frost run revamps leveling to 90 has gotten way too easy. Hell I am leveling my warrior and the amount of time I spend on him a day (1 hour ish) equates to the 5-6 hours of work I put into my veno... so what I am really trying to say is ... QQ !

Do you remember when you had to level "legit"? Or am I just reminiscing too far back?

A sin just hit 100 in our faction today. It took me nearly a year to get to 100 mostly pre-bh.

It has gotten way too easy. If I hit 100 9 months ago, I probably wouldn't be playing anymore

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

Do you remember when you had to level "legit"? Or am I just reminiscing too far back?

I don't really mind... I'm just jealous I didn't have that option & instead was doing cycles & justice qsts till I puked & had no other quests left...

A sin just hit 100 in our faction today. It took me nearly a year to get to 100 mostly pre-bh.

It has gotten way too easy. If I hit 100 9 months ago, I probably wouldn't be playing anymore

I think it's actually nice having more high lvl ppl... getting squads for +100 bhs is a pain... Some instances are no problem even if some of the members are nub... Just a mater of filling up spots... like delta bhs, or to pay of wine costs.

Solandri - Heavens Tear

I remember when I was their level, we didn't have no fancy shmancy max speed mounts. We had to WALK to our FBs. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways!

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I remember when I was their level, we didn't have no fancy shmancy max speed mounts. We had to WALK to our FBs. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways!

And barbs had to wear robes and use sticks, since nobody could afford heavy armor nor weapons....

Astoru - Heavens Tear

Define "legit".

Legit stands for any way that's legal, and technically, oracling/hyperstones/BH is legit.

If you say "Legit" as in "Go grind till you lose your insanity", sorry, I'm not a ****.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

I remember when people used to complain about zhen.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

I remember people pretty much complaining about every single thing that has ever been released or announced by PW.

People have complained about:

Not enough sales
Too many sales
Getting pked in pvp servers
Not being able to pk in pve servers at will
About too high of drop rates
about too low of drop rates
About needing a new server
About why we getting a new server
About skill X is overpowered
About skill X being nerfed
Etc, etc, etc

It is actualy the only constant in PWI, together with the fact that the AnyPacks will come back sooner or later. People will complain no matter what.

mulanrouge

my favorite are those that rush to 100 then get to 100 and quit because bored and nothing to do

surprise, you hit 100 = farm all day or make am alt

Ephemerai - Sanctuary

TBH I hate grinding, so I don't mind leveling via other things at all (instances, quests, dailies).

I'd really rather do instances all the time, and there's no point farming stuff that you're not going to stay with for a long, long time. It's just a waste of time, money, resources etc.

TW is fun, and my main goal in my gameplay is to contribute significantly towards helping my faction change the map. This is basically why I'm focusing on leveling fast, then slowing down once I get "on par" in terms of level with most TWers & changing my focus to farming for my gear/doing instances to help others within the faction level.

So... meh. To each his own. If you're really that much of a **** to enjoy grinding for hours on end, props to you. As for me, I don't find any fun whatsoever in that... so yay BH, PQ, and hyper FCC.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

mulanrouge wrote: »

my favorite are those that rush to 100 then get to 100 and quit because bored and nothing to do

surprise, you hit 100 = farm all day or make am alt

Nah, once you get to 100, you get to spend $x000's paying for your end game gear, shards and refines.

You're not a factor unless you have +10 weapons and at least +5 gears you know.

The faster you hit 100, the quicker you're thrown into the cash-shop competition.

Ephemerai - Sanctuary wrote: »

So... meh. To each his own. If you're really that much of a **** to enjoy grinding for hours on end, props to you. As for me, I don't find any fun whatsoever in that... so yay BH, PQ, and hyper FCC.

And right now, you're also PWI's favorite player type. Rush to endgame, spend lots of money so you'll be just an average player, and then TW and spend, spend spend...

And if you don't dump in at least $500-$2000, your gear will be considered pretty mediocre.

Ephemerai - Sanctuary

Or you can, you know, make coin off of ingame instances (or hell, if you really wanted to, you could just farm the mobs for DQ items/equip drops to NPC. Or go farm herbs and mats and sell them. Or set up a B/S catshop) and buy gold that way instead of charging, if you even need gold in the first place.

I have spent a fraction of what most people spend on this game. o_O And I'm not charging anymore. How does that make me their favorite player type?

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Ephemerai - Sanctuary wrote: »

Or you can, you know, make coin off of ingame instances (or hell, if you really wanted to, you could just farm the mobs for DQ items/equip drops to NPC. Or go farm herbs and mats and sell them. Or set up a B/S catshop) and buy gold that way instead of charging, if you even need gold in the first place.

I have spent a fraction of what most people spend on this game. o_O And I'm not charging anymore. How does that make me their favorite player type?

Farm mobs for DQ items? How much money can you make an hour? 100k? I made enough in 10 days to buy a +8 star orb and two +10 star orbs without spending any RL cash. I also bought two, so they win.

How are you their favorite type of player? When you end up reaching 100 so quickly, you will not have the in-game coin, knowledge to farm money from instances (2x drops largely ruined farming HH for money)... so you're gonna be 10x and you'll have **** gear. When you try to TW or PvP, you'll die to those that cash shop. So, you'll spend money to become an averagely geared player... or quit.

There's not much else to do, even on a PvP server, than to farm your end-game gear and refine it. *shrug*

Sure you've spent only a fractoin of what other players have. You're still a nub. You haven't hit 100 yet. It's a completely different crowd. It really is.

Themax - Heavens Tear

That is why I gave my equipment away yesterday and uninstalled this game. I'm sorry but I can't spend thousands on this game. I rather play P2P game than PWI. PWI is a joke, I truly regret that I spent almost year of my life playing this game. It use to be good , now its all about Cash Shop.

Credence - Sanctuary

lol, sorry but im liking this... the game just aint about lvs anymore now.. its about the skill and how each player can apply their knowledge to split second decisions... LEVELS MEAN NOTHING if you cannot play the character... learn ur lessons... to succeed is to know every aspect of the game and use its benefits.. if you dont like it well... then leave? which plenty have subjected to.. and as u can see PWE is not hurting for their decisions... so lets play the game.b:victory

Themax - Heavens Tear

Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol, sorry but im liking this... the game just aint about lvs anymore now.. its about the skill and how each player can apply their knowledge to split second decisions... LEVELS MEAN NOTHING if you cannot play the character... learn ur lessons... to succeed is to know every aspect of the game and use its benefits.. if you dont like it well... then leave? which plenty have subjected to.. and as u can see PWE is not hurting for their decisions... so lets play the game.b:victory

It's all about Cash Shop period. Your skills mean nothing , when someone with + 12 hitting you.

volst

Only way you can really complain is if you started out in another version before cube/rebirth was introduced. Where your only choices were to zhen/grind on fishes/wq/cs/justice/even dq.

Credence - Sanctuary

Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's all about Cash Shop period. Your skills mean nothing , when someone with + 12 hitting you.

You can say that, but When a lv86 Assassin is killin people with +8/+12 weapons and armor, you are not subjected to how strong items are when the build and base mind is set, i barely spend any real money for Credence.. and successes never stopped him, ur LV100 complaining about cash cause u cant manage the pay flow to put it in game, then thats ur fualt.. not ours... i never knew spending $10 on a gamer card then a pack of ciggarettes or case of beer could be more beneficial... when u know how to play a game u dont blame how its made, ur option was to neve rhave played in the beginning anyway.

Themax - Heavens Tear

Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »

You can say that, but When a lv86 Assassin is killin people with +8/+12 weapons and armor, you are not subjected to how strong items are when the build and base mind is set, i barely spend any real money for Credence.. and successes never stopped him, ur LV100 complaining about cash cause u cant manage the pay flow to put it in game, then thats ur fualt.. not ours... i never knew spending $10 on a gamer card then a pack of ciggarettes or case of beer could be more beneficial... when u know how to play a game u dont blame how its made, ur option was to neve rhave played in the beginning anyway.

Please get to 100 + then talk.

After 100 + it is impossible to survive unless you CASH SHOP like mad.

Love up and down 200 mills - care to do the math and tell me how much would it be in terms of dollars?

As a BM 100 + you must have deicide claws to put any damage output and remain somewhat of a factor at all.

Lets see deicide 65 mills +. Lets see... couple of hundred of dollars? ( no refines , no garnets )

TTs are so devalued it aint even funny , I can't even TT for coin anymore.

As I said unless you cash shop , you cant do anything , and when I say cashhop , I dont mean your regular 10 bucks per week , you need to spend THOUSANDS of dollars to be able to do anything at all.

PWI is a good game I suppose but I simply cant afford it , I have bills to pay.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Please get to 100 + then talk.

After 100 + it is impossible to survive unless you CASH SHOP like mad.

lol... he's been playing 2 months and acts like he knows what he's talking about.

Once you hit 10x, as I mentioned earlier, it's a completely different crowd. I barely see/deal with people who are lower than high 9x, in instances, bh, PvP, etc.

An 83 sin would either die very quickly or force stealth and run away from any decently geared 10x LA or Heavy they encountered unless they had highly refined Frost Daggers and stacked -int.

Sorry, don't believe you solo ganking many people with +8 gears and +12 weapons. It just doesn't happen. lol

Credence - Sanctuary

Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Please get to 100 + then talk.

After 100 + it is impossible to survive unless you CASH SHOP like mad.

Sorry i got a 95 barb full sage and all skills up to date with +3 gear and is dex build who can handle Anchient Evil...

90 Blademaster who is a legend in his multi weapon profession....

59 Veno with herc and nix.. and nothing is stopping her....

86 Sin aiming for 90 with all his 90 gear goodies...

Seems to me i achieved more then what you... a lv100 could achieve... But hey, quitters can only complain on the past, when the new day is tmrw and the game will keep going with or without you. So yeah when i hit 100 on my Assassin, ill talk to you.. but when u match what ive done... come complain.

EDIT: and yeah.. an assassin's job is to use their skills... if we go invisible who's fualt is that? the creators? then cry to them.

Themax - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

lol... he's been playing 2 months and acts like he knows what he's talking about.

Once you hit 10x, as I mentioned earlier, it's a completely different crowd. I barely see/deal with people who are lower than high 9x, in instances, bh, PvP, etc.

An 83 sin would either die very quickly or force stealth and run away from any decently geared 10x LA or Heavy they encountered unless they had highly refined Frost Daggers and stacked -int.

Sorry, don't believe you solo ganking many people with +8 gears and +12 weapons. It just doesn't happen. lol

True that bud.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

True that bud.

He's also a troll. Everyone who has played this game for any length of time knows that sins aren't PvEers. Sins are virtually reliant on cash shopping.... good luck getting Frost Daggers to drop in FC. If you don't cash shop as a sin, you're a two shot at best.

Credence - Sanctuary

Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Please get to 100 + then talk.

After 100 + it is impossible to survive unless you CASH SHOP like mad.

Love up and down 200 mills - care to do the math and tell me how much would it be in terms of dollars?

As a BM 100 + you must have deicide claws to put any damage output and remain somewhat of a factor at all.

Lets see deicide 65 mills +. Lets see... couple of hundred of dollars? ( no refines , no garnets )

TTs are so devalued it aint even funny , I can't even TT for coin anymore.

As I said unless you cash shop , you cant do anything , and when I say cashhop , I dont mean your regular 10 bucks per week , you need to spend THOUSANDS of dollars to be able to do anything at all.

PWI is a good game I suppose but I simply cant afford it , I have bills to pay.

Then pay your bills... but dont complain. Mills is nothing hurtful when you can do runs to acctually get off ur lazy-stated self and do Runs in TT3-3 or Lunar...hell even Warsong... but you rather sit here in forums and whine about the past....

Credence - Sanctuary

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

He's also a troll. Everyone who has played this game for any length of time knows that sins aren't PvEers. Sins are virtually reliant on cash shopping.... good luck getting Frost Daggers to drop in FC. If you don't cash shop as a sin, you're a two shot at best.

You dont have to get Frost daggers.... u dont have to be the 100% pro gear u can find... esp if u cant even save money or do things to save urself, There is nothing in Cash shop for any class besides things that make us benefially look better, just like in real life, why drive a dust rust bucket when u can drive a corvette? cause you didnt save ur money ... So why u flying a slow sword when u can be flying Astral Melody as in example? The game never changes... the players do.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sorry i got a 95 barb full sage and all skills up to date with +3 gear and is dex build who can handle Anchient Evil...

90 Blademaster who is a legend in his multi weapon profession....

59 Veno with herc and nix.. and nothing is stopping her....

86 Sin aiming for 90 with all his 90 gear goodies...

Seems to me i achieved more then what you... a lv100 could achieve... But hey, quitters can only complain on the past, when the new day is tmrw and the game will keep going with or without you. So yeah when i hit 100 on my Assassin, ill talk to you.. but when u match what ive done... come complain.

EDIT: and yeah.. an assassin's job is to use their skills... if we go invisible who's fualt is that? the creators? then cry to them.

lol a dex barb with +3 gears. Fail. I probably have almost as much HP as you would in human form. Post on your main or it's all lies.

And experience from a private server does not equate to actual PWI credibility.

Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »

You dont have to get Frost daggers.... u dont have to be the 100% pro gear u can find... esp if u cant even save money or do things to save urself, There is nothing in Cash shop for any class besides things that make us benefially look better,

Orbs, event items, gold trading... levelling a char to 9x in two months isn't cheap. You certainly can't do it for free and actually be relevant on an older server.

Just like your +3 gears on your Vit barb. Any half decent faction would just lol at your application.

And yes a sin pretty much NEEDS Frost Daggers... every other 8x+ weapon for them is absolutely horrible aside from 8jun or Nirvana.

Credence - Sanctuary

Sorry for multi-posting.

You guys talk about PVP.... Yet have you guys tried lving a Sin? Psy? if u have then u can see its not rocket science, somewhat acctually fun. PWE is bring new things.. and the main msg is, if u cant handle it then dont play... just like every other game, remember u play their rules.... SO when a sin is in PVP would it be smart to just run at people when u can go invisible? or for a Psy to slow a persons charm then attack making them upset? Remember atleast u guys have ur 79 and 89+ skills to win.. we got our noob skills so we have to play smart and PVP is optioned so play PVP at ur own risk like it says... To get further then you guys with so much less of stuff we new classes are stuck without, is a bigger reward...