5 Vit Pure Mage Good?

Apocalyptart - Lost City
Apocalyptart - Lost City Posts: 124 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Wizard
ok i am thinking of going Super Pure Mage at lvl 90 which means nothing on vit at all and being a vit mage since i started playing i have no experience and don't know if its any good right now i have 100 attributes on vit and it's great because aoes don't hit me that hard. Well anyways my main concern is that i will get one shotted by 6x 7x 8x 9x and 10x xD lol since i will only have about 2k HP buffed unless i have a charm which i can't afford all the time xD so if u have any comments please post and help me out because i don't wanna make a mistake i will regret xD the only thing i know is that i will hit super hard xD which is one of the reasons why i wanna go ahead and do it but the downside is i don't wanna be 1 shotted by aoes pvp and in frost runs byt the mobs xD

PS: post what amount of vit u think is good enough to last on aoes and pvp and still hit hard b:bye


and i'm going sage so i don't know if pure is good for it ty
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  • evilramen
    evilramen Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    if you don't feel safe, you dont have to take all the vit out at once.
    leave enough vit to survive some hit bro, i mean 2k hp (BUFFED???) at 90 is really bad man, the tt90 set should give u plenty HP, and flawless are so cheap, 3k+ hp is really doable. good luck
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    keep your vit until 95 and work to get the event gear (boots+hat +cape).
    Shard and refine them, same with weapon and other pieces of 90+gear (tt90 gold sleeves + TT90 green pants can be easily endgame at 4 socks and +5 refines) When u hit 95 and u can dress up that event gear, do the math how much HP you will lose and how much you need to be comfortable with.
    Some ppl love more vit to survive, other are just fine with dying if they have the maximum possible dmg output. But I would say keep that 100 vit for now, until u have your endgame gear.

    PS: don't worry about lvl-up, with the hyper XP FC runs and endless BHs you will get to 95 in a blink of an eye. Late 80s are a bish, but once in the 90s the first 3-4 levels will pass by incredibly fast (300k XP from WQ, 450k from cube <<+100k if u hit 49>> ... and so on. )
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    evilramen wrote: »
    if you don't feel safe, you dont have to take all the vit out at once.
    leave enough vit to survive some hit bro, i mean 2k hp (BUFFED???) at 90 is really bad man, the tt90 set should give u plenty HP, and flawless are so cheap, 3k+ hp is really doable. good luck

    i have 5 vit and got 3k hp without buff and with 2sock eq and gr6 hp stone at when was 92 and i used noob eq b:surrender

    with sage barb buff (becuase i do delta with sage barb) i got 4k hp and with all buff 6,5k pdef
  • Lolomgwtfbbq - Lost City
    Lolomgwtfbbq - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    me myself i went pure magic and i am just now getting to put vit into my build but i have 3.3k hp unbuffed and 5.8k phys def unbuffed and i still get 1 hit by some 9-10xs because they crit alot all you have to do to fix that is get some stone of turtle pots and hope u kill them b4 time on them goes out. personally i can kil 2-3 ppl with now so its not hard
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    pure magic builds are worthless if you dont have the gear to back it up


    if you have less than 4k hp at 90 you're utterly useless in pvp
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Apocalyptart - Lost City
    Apocalyptart - Lost City Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ok good i still think i mgonna take off some vit though alot of people tell me that its great to have all that vit but i wanna do more damage so i might make it about 60 on vit
  • Destini - Dreamweaver
    Destini - Dreamweaver Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    At 99, I did something really crazy. I restatted to pure mage. Now one would ask why this was crazy.

    Well, my hp was 4.3 hp unbuffed after that (it was 5k pre-restat), and it made it almost impossible to live in a Delta because of my high damage output (unless I switched to a lower level weapon or went weaponless). I've worn my tt99 weapon once through a delta. Yes, it's that serious.

    So why did I do it? I'm a damage whoor. Since then, I've gained back my hp (and then some--yay hp mods), and I didn't even have to go back to vit-mag.

    The point of this otherwise utterly pointless story is that it's not impossible to get more than 2k hp (wtf, my psychic at 73 has more than that and she's pure mag). I'm not a heavy cash shopper (so no event gear here), and I was able to refine most of my gear +5; the only thing that is under +4 is my sky demon's pearl. A pure magic build is really nice, as long as you can get the funds to maintain it.
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    Ivy_>Psychic>Level 92>Sage>Active
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  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Destini - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A pure magic build is really nice, as long as you can get the funds to maintain it.

    Very true. Pure mag builds are worth it but it won't get you far if you don't have adequate armor. It's not impossible to not cashshop at all and still get good armor - I've spent a total of $5 on the game, but I've been able to 4-sock everything and fill em with flaw/imac cits (3567 hp atm at 84). But if I had like 2k hp, life would be rather difficult...
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Very true. Pure mag builds are worth it but it won't get you far if you don't have adequate armor. It's not impossible to not cashshop at all and still get good armor - I've spent a total of $5 on the game, but I've been able to 4-sock everything and fill em with flaw/imac cits (3567 hp atm at 84). But if I had like 2k hp, life would be rather difficult...

    i dont have ideea have wizz under 2,8k hp at 90 b:surrender
    since with 2sock eq lower ss and +2refine u get few hp and i dont got problem in delta only at last stage (sometimes i stop the zhen and i use ms)

    mainly i liked in tw and in 1vs1 sucks the low hp but in tw i can hide and nuke XD
  • adriel88
    adriel88 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    According to ecatomb char simulator, a +4/+5 refine in your equipment set plus some LV7-9 garnets grant u approx 4k HP and 6k unbuffed p.def (meaning if those refs are in phys orns) If picking Demon and if u have that holy luck to obtain Demon Stone barrier, thats about almost 15k p.def ONLY self buffed. Had a higher LV Wiz on PW MY-EN, so i can tell its plausible.

    Personally I lack of HP (2.6k atm), but gonna compensate it on LV90, when i start to get my final set^^

    To put it simple: being pure pays off on the long run, so patienceb:bye
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I've been pretty much a 3Vit build all the time as a wizard, from 78-85 I was 53 Vit for RB but other than that its been 3 Vit.

    I haven't perfected my EQ yet, but I'm on 3.2k hp atm unbuffed and I'm still to refine/socket my EQ more
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It's not just about HP. Your survivability also depend on p.def. My HP is 4830 now unbuffed.(~6340 with sage barb buff) I didn't fill up my event gear with shard yet.(boot,helm) I'm saving money for citrine shards. But without real money it's impossible. And my p.def. Is 8250 buffed. Also I have 25 points in vit+ some vit from armor.
    My advice is take at least 50 points from vitality and put it to mag.
    But the biggest HP comes from refining G.14 gear boots and helm. Refining these items you will get MUCH more HP that refining G.12 or G.11. pwcalc is wrong there. It shows less HP gained that is in real. And difference is quite big.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    adriel88 wrote: »
    According to ecatomb char simulator, a +4/+5 refine in your equipment set plus some LV7-9 garnets grant u approx 4k HP and 6k unbuffed p.def (meaning if those refs are in phys orns) If picking Demon and if u have that holy luck to obtain Demon Stone barrier, thats about almost 15k p.def ONLY self buffed. Had a higher LV Wiz on PW MY-EN, so i can tell its plausible.

    Personally I lack of HP (2.6k atm), but gonna compensate it on LV90, when i start to get my final set^^

    To put it simple: being pure pays off on the long run, so patienceb:bye
    You're an idiot if you think you can reach 15k pdef self buffed with +4/5 refines and some g7-8 shards.


    EDIT: lol I tried.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=732e16b8ca7ea4bc

    Most pathetic part is... I could oneshot this wizard with pyrogram.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Oz - Lost City
    Oz - Lost City Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You will never ever reach 15k pdef self-buffed with that kind of gear.
    Maybe with all +12 adorns and g11 p-stones or something, but not even sure about that...


    To the full-magic build:
    I tried around with that at 90-ish myself, and I have to say that you should definitely see that your HP stays decent all the time.
    As you are getting your 90 gear and starting to refine it, try to always stay over 4k hp, thats was about my experience.

    Everything under 4k hp makes you too easy a kill, pdef or no..

    And imo it doesnt hurt to leave a few points vit on your char as long as you cant afford to +++ your gear to that point.

    Just take it easy and take some vit out when you can afford it..
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ~50 vit is a good place to be without good gear.
    Later on you can get good HP without it though, I has 5.7k unbuffed
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    ~50 vit is a good place to be without good gear.
    Later on you can get good HP without it though, I has 5.7k unbuffed

    i saw you in WC selling a mount yesterday xD
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i saw you in WC selling a mount yesterday xD

    miz get ur **** on the game
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    miz get ur **** on the game

    im stuck doing homework Q.Q

    school = rtarded
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im stuck doing homework Q.Q

    school = rtarded

    Be happy. University will be much worse. I would like to take time back to my school times. b:chuckle
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vitality is for little girls. Drop that number down to three and become a man.
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    man = oneshot
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    man = oneshot

    man=oneshot unless you spend that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
  • Destini - Dreamweaver
    Destini - Dreamweaver Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    man= oneshot...of the opposing side. b:bye

    (not always, but it makes me b:chuckle when it takes 5 people 5 mins to kill me then just 2 seconds to take one down sometimes)
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    Other Characters:

    Ivy_>Psychic>Level 92>Sage>Active
    Serenata>Venomancer>Level 44>Inactive until further notice
    Avocet>Cleric>Level 25>same as above
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    KRISTOPH YOU WISH TO BECOME A MAN DO YOU NOT?

    I think I have a restat scroll you can use, since I don't need it anymore...
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nakhimov - Lost City wrote: »
    KRISTOPH YOU WISH TO BECOME A MAN DO YOU NOT?

    I think I have a restat scroll you can use, since I don't need it anymore...
    no ty, will stick to being able to take ehee 1v1
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Oh Kristoph, I'm glad you think I'm always serious. Cause I am so serious.
    Besides, you should respec Resto druid, then you can 1v1 anyone.
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    wowprogress.com/guild/us/kil-jaeden/Criminal+Scum
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lolwat


    theres people that take forums seriously?
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Shh, don't let anyone know that we don't. You're ruining the flamewar.

    Edit: so are anni packs and the like still around?
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Nakhimov the Kingslayer of Kil'Jaeden's <Criminal Scum>
    wowprogress.com/guild/us/kil-jaeden/Criminal+Scum
  • Destini - Dreamweaver
    Destini - Dreamweaver Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nakhimov - Lost City wrote: »
    Shh, don't let anyone know that we don't. You're ruining the flamewar.

    Edit: so are anni packs and the like still around?

    Shh!! Don't say the A word...they'll bring it back for the 62936294623975th time...by popular demand! b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Of course I want to make you giggle, but this is serious. b:chuckle

    Other Characters:

    Ivy_>Psychic>Level 92>Sage>Active
    Serenata>Venomancer>Level 44>Inactive until further notice
    Avocet>Cleric>Level 25>same as above
    Descorian>Blademaster>Level 5> The love child of Destini and Escorian...but I hardly play her...b:surrender

    PS: Caffeine Detox sucks!
  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You guys are cute. b:cute

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