Bug or No Bug? Your Opinions

FrKnDuDe - Harshlands
FrKnDuDe - Harshlands Posts: 34 Arc User
edited January 2010 in General Discussion
Level 81 WIZ with full cleric buffs approximate attack power range 6244-6934 and a 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance

Level 70 Phsycic with full cleric buffs and lvl 10 black voodoo for 22% increase plus 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance and halloween candy intuition buff has an attack power range 5781-6798

When both classes hit on a boss, the WIZ is doing around 8-10k damage while the Phsycic is doing 1.7 to 2k damage. Is this right or is it possibly a bug? I wanted to gather everyone's thoughts before I submit a ticket.

Yes the Phsycic is 11 levels lower but levels should not effect how hard you hit if your attack power is close to the same range. The Phsycic in my opion should be hitting harder due to the 32% addition attack with his voodoo buff and the blessing or at the very least doing very close to the 10k damage.b:shockedb:shocked

Anyone else noticed this with same classes or other similar class?
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Level 81 WIZ with full cleric buffs approximate attack power range 6244-6934 and a 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance

    Level 70 Phsycic with full cleric buffs and lvl 10 black voodoo for 22% increase plus 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance and halloween candy intuition buff has an attack power range 5781-6798

    When both classes hit on a boss, the WIZ is doing around 8-10k damage while the Phsycic is doing 1.7 to 2k damage. Is this right or is it possibly a bug? I wanted to gather everyone's thoughts before I submit a ticket.

    Yes the Phsycic is 11 levels lower but levels should not effect how hard you hit if your attack power is close to the same range. The Phsycic in my opion should be hitting harder due to the 32% addition attack with his voodoo buff and the blessing or at the very least doing very close to the 10k damage.b:shockedb:shocked

    Anyone else noticed this with same classes or other similar class?

    Wizard and Psychic use different magic types if I remember correctly, the bosses resists to magic type would explain the difference.

    ~Saitada
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yes the Phsycic is 11 levels lower but levels should not effect how hard you hit if your attack power is close to the same range.

    Bzzzt.

    Monsters have level-based damage reduction against players (but not pets). It's why players hit [?] monsters so weakly.

    Admittedly, that's not the answer here - 11 levels shouldn't be that big a reduction (damage multiplier of 0.7 says http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/drop )

    There's also the different skils - most skills are of the form:
    Base magic attack ( with some multiplier ) + weapon attack (again, some multiplier) + some number.
    For psychics, that 'some number' is large - they do a LOT of damage that doesn't matter what the heck their stats are.
    Wizards though get astonishingly large multipliers to their base and weapon attack from their skills.
    So that's worth checking too.
  • FranzKafka - Dreamweaver
    FranzKafka - Dreamweaver Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Not sure how that is/works but today I stole(damn 3 crits in a row)agrro at forshura dude in 2-1 from a lvl 83 barb so my reduction wasn't that much reduced.Still I must say that with the +22 attack level i was expecting maybe more damage on those ? bosses.I was hitting for about 2-3k damage on all the other bosses and around 4-5k at forshura(i love fire mobs).So hands down if wizards hit bosses for 10k while i hit them for 3k.
    Edit:Still it's a pve thing since in pvp me and the wiz hit each other for pretty much the same amount,
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Level 81 WIZ with full cleric buffs approximate attack power range 6244-6934 and a 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance

    Level 70 Phsycic with full cleric buffs and lvl 10 black voodoo for 22% increase plus 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance and halloween candy intuition buff has an attack power range 5781-6798

    When both classes hit on a boss, the WIZ is doing around 8-10k damage while the Phsycic is doing 1.7 to 2k damage. Is this right or is it possibly a bug? I wanted to gather everyone's thoughts before I submit a ticket.

    Yes the Phsycic is 11 levels lower but levels should not effect how hard you hit if your attack power is close to the same range. The Phsycic in my opion should be hitting harder due to the 32% addition attack with his voodoo buff and the blessing or at the very least doing very close to the 10k damage.b:shockedb:shocked

    Anyone else noticed this with same classes or other similar class?

    diferent element of magic and also big lvl diference
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Psy skils have a terribly low weap modifier, while wiz's skils have a better modifier.

    Also, the only difference in magic type is that wiz also has fire, which psy doesn't have. That makes no difference unles it's a metal mob
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  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    do you have a picture to give evidence, because im thinking the wizard is lying through his teeth, even with the 900% bonus in weapon m.atk on my venos sage spark led to hitting 3-5k normal 6-7k crits on things like dimentora. normally id hit as hard as the psychic lol; (unbuffed that is)

    even with the beefy spells, no wizard should be hitting that high.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    O right, it's on the boss?

    The wiz is mistaken. That 8-9k is his normal dmg, not the dmg he deals to [?]bosses.
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  • FrKnDuDe - Harshlands
    FrKnDuDe - Harshlands Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'll get some screenies of the wiz damage and phsycic damage and there attack ranges. The mob we were killing was the timed boss in 3-1 fire boss.
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  • FranzKafka - Dreamweaver
    FranzKafka - Dreamweaver Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Assuming the wiz is telling the truth,and since you said it was the djin boss where you pretty much do full dmg,I wanna see the stats the psy has and if he he has maxed skills,earth/water passives etc.I just finished my BH(doing Wq at this time that's why I post lol)and whenever i was criting either after spark or with a 2 spark skill I was stealing agrro(no harm done since it was drake and he's a harmless puppy :))even with the boss having FR on it.I promise tommorow to get pics with damage and all.
  • WShadow - Harshlands
    WShadow - Harshlands Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bzzzt.

    Monsters have level-based damage reduction against players (but not pets). It's why players hit [?] monsters so weakly.

    Admittedly, that's not the answer here - 11 levels shouldn't be that big a reduction (damage multiplier of 0.7 says http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/drop )

    But This table works for MOBS and she is talking about BOSS with "?" in lvl it should mean he is 150lvl. So if i look on that table, players are about -69 and -80lvl lover lvl. Who knows how reduction is there. b:surrender
  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    it seem low since im hitting boss inside fb51 for about 6k i assume it sould be around the same in hh
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  • Softie - Harshlands
    Softie - Harshlands Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Level 81 WIZ with full cleric buffs approximate attack power range 6244-6934 and a 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance

    Level 70 Phsycic with full cleric buffs and lvl 10 black voodoo for 22% increase plus 10% blessing from TT3-1 instance and halloween candy intuition buff has an attack power range 5781-6798

    When both classes hit on a boss, the WIZ is doing around 8-10k damage while the Phsycic is doing 1.7 to 2k damage. Is this right or is it possibly a bug? I wanted to gather everyone's thoughts before I submit a ticket.

    Yes the Phsycic is 11 levels lower but levels should not effect how hard you hit if your attack power is close to the same range. The Phsycic in my opion should be hitting harder due to the 32% addition attack with his voodoo buff and the blessing or at the very least doing very close to the 10k damage.b:shockedb:shocked

    Anyone else noticed this with same classes or other similar class?

    Wizards r broken OP
  • FranzKafka - Dreamweaver
    FranzKafka - Dreamweaver Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm pretty sure TT bosses have a higher damage reduction than those in the FBs.