Question on Refinement Cost

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Bowlinbob - Lost City
Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Twilight Temple (West)
Ive been searching forums and can't find anything, and I'm also at work so I can't log in to look at prices.

Question: How many coins (aprox.) would it cost to refine armour from +0 - +4 using 1 star orbs?

If anyone could post a link showing how many 1 star orbs make a +2, +3, +4 etc that would be awesome, followed by the aprox. cost of a 1 star orb on Lost City.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    I can tell you that to get from 0 to +5 it is 100 1* orbs.

    Therefore --> 40 1* Orbs to get from 0 to +4

    At LC prices (going average) at 150k an orb = 6mill coins for refine of 0 to +4

    (Edit --> Click the link the below messed up...Zzzzzzz...qq)

    1* Orbs Needed for Higher Refines:

    Orb Wanted 1* Orbs Needed Total Needed
    1* 1 1
    2* 4 5
    3* 10 15
    4* 25 40
    5* 60 100
    6* 130 230
    7* 215 445
    8* 405 850
    9* 750 1600
    10* 1370 2970
    11* 2525 5495
    12* 4645 10140
    From Here

    Spreadsheet here
    Nova_ - Harshlands wrote: »

    1 Star = 1 Star 1x
    27 Silver

    2 Stars = 4*(1 Star) 4x
    1 Gold 8 Silver

    3 Stars = 2*(1 Star) + 2*(2 Star) 10x
    2 Gold 70 Silver

    4 Stars = 1*(1 Star) + 1*(2 Star) + 2*(3 Star) 25x
    6 Gold 75 Silver

    5 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(4 Star) 60x
    16 Gold 20 Silver

    6 Stars = 1*(3 Star) + 2*(5 Star) 130x
    35 Gold 10 Silver

    7 Stars = 1*(4 Star) + 1*(5 Star) + 1*(6 Star) 215x
    58 Gold 5 Silver

    8 Stars = 5 + 6 + 7 405x
    109 Gold 35 Silver

    9 Stars: = 6 + 7 + 8 750x
    202 Gold 50 Silver

    Dragon orb Ocean(10 stars): 7 + 8 + 9 1370x
    369 Gold 90 Silver

    Dragon Orb Mirage(11 stars): 8 + 9 + 10 2525x
    681 Gold 75 Silver

    Dragon Orb Flame(12 stars): 9 + 10 + 11 4645x
    1254 Gold 15 Silver

    Total Cost to +2 : 1 Gold 35 Silvers
    Total Cost to +3 : 4 Gold 5 Silvers
    Total Cost to +4 : 10 Gold 80 Silvers
    Total Cost to +5 : 27 Gold
    Total Cost to +6 : 62 Gold 10 Silvers
    Total Cost to +7 : 120 Gold 15 Silvers
    Total Cost to +8 : 229 Gold 50 Silvers
    Total Cost to +9 : 432 Gold
    Total Cost to +10 : 801 Gold 90 Silvers
    Total Cost to +11 : 1483 Gold 65 Silvers
    Total Cost to +12 : 2737 Gold 80 Silvers


    Note: The numberX is the damage multiplier. Aslo, the gold price is based off combining 1 star d orbs to make them (IE the cheapest way to do it)
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    alrighty, so 40 1 star orbs for each piece of equipment to +4 the piece.

    editZ: nvm saw ur edit, ty :3

    gonna have to fiddle with my setup again for 90 ._. i cant afford +4 on everything QQ
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    alrighty, so 40 1 star orbs for each piece of equipment to +4 the piece.

    editZ: nvm saw ur edit, ty :3

    gonna have to fiddle with my setup again for 90 ._. i cant afford +4 on everything QQ

    You can get to +3/+4 with mirages fairly easily.

    Could always try that...
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    You can get to +3/+4 with mirages fairly easily.

    Could always try that...

    ._. *failed trying to +3 a hat* took like 12 failures then i just settled for a +2...
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    ._. *failed trying to +3 a hat* took like 12 failures then i just settled for a +2...

    b:surrender I am a BAD mirage refiner...I prefer the guarantee b:chuckle
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  • Collapse - Harshlands
    Collapse - Harshlands Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Altho its not always guaranteed, the tips Duke gives can be pretty useful. Spam him, buy some tukeng stones (Or w.e ones only reduce refine by +1 when u fail, 30 silver each) and find out the "best" places to +2-+4.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Collapse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Altho its not always guaranteed, the tips Duke gives can be pretty useful. Spam him, buy some tukeng stones (Or w.e ones only reduce refine by +1 when u fail, 30 silver each) and find out the "best" places to +2-+4.

    Refine Areas
    +1 The Harshlands
    +2 The Frozen Path
    +3 Avalanche Canyon, Thousand Wood Ridge, Windswept Grasslands, Courage Path, Land of Buried Bones
    +4 Haunted Path, Tradewind Village, The Great Lake, South Barrier Mountains
    +5 City of Misfortune, Shining Tide Woods, Stairway to Heaven, The White Ridge
    +6 Ancient Wall, Dragon Wilderness, Valley of the Hidden Orchid, Black Mountain
    +7 Broken Plain, Silk Ridge, Peach Blossom Grove, Ridge of the Dreaming Cloud
    +8 Ancient Peak, Wellspring Village, Deserted Sea
    +9 Vibrant Cliffs, Fragrant Hills, Walled Stronghold
    +10 Mount Lantern, Sundown Town, King's Feast
    +11 Immolation Camp, Dribbling Spring, Swamp of the Wraiths
    +12 Forest of Haze, Dragon's End, Plain of Farewells

    <3 PWI Wiki
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Refine Areas
    +1 The Harshlands
    +2 The Frozen Path
    +3 Avalanche Canyon, Thousand Wood Ridge, Windswept Grasslands, Courage Path, Land of Buried Bones
    +4 Haunted Path, Tradewind Village, The Great Lake, South Barrier Mountains
    +5 City of Misfortune, Shining Tide Woods, Stairway to Heaven, The White Ridge
    +6 Ancient Wall, Dragon Wilderness, Valley of the Hidden Orchid, Black Mountain
    +7 Broken Plain, Silk Ridge, Peach Blossom Grove, Ridge of the Dreaming Cloud
    +8 Ancient Peak, Wellspring Village, Deserted Sea
    +9 Vibrant Cliffs, Fragrant Hills, Walled Stronghold
    +10 Mount Lantern, Sundown Town, King's Feast
    +11 Immolation Camp, Dribbling Spring, Swamp of the Wraiths
    +12 Forest of Haze, Dragon's End, Plain of Farewells

    <3 PWI Wiki

    :o ima try this tonight with my boots
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    :o ima try this tonight with my boots

    b:cute Let me know b:pleased
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    b:cute Let me know b:pleased

    was reading wiki, dont u need to hold territory of that land?

    *notices who holds a land for +4 refine :o*
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    I thought the land refinement only worked if your guild owns that land.


    edit: didnt see above post >.>
  • Collapse - Harshlands
    Collapse - Harshlands Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Idk but i heard from my friend who played Cn version a while back that it has to be "activated" by duke, like you need to talk to him in order to get the extra bonuses for those areas. He also said someting about the day of the week and some other time related ****. He eneded up +6'ing all his gear with his "CN refinement secrets" back when everyone was 7x on HL b:laugh
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Collapse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Idk but i heard from my friend who played Cn version a while back that it has to be "activated" by duke, like you need to talk to him in order to get the extra bonuses for those areas. He also said someting about the day of the week and some other time related ****. He eneded up +6'ing all his gear with his "CN refinement secrets" back when everyone was 7x on HL b:laugh

    There is a Duke guide, but I am not all sure how he works.

    I know many guildies use and refine based off of these locations without ever having talked to Duke.

    I know that crafting armor and such/bonuses need to be "activated" by Duke but in terms of Refinement I am not 100% sure.

    Here though is the % to get the specific refines....

    Refine level/Chance of success
    +1 95%
    +2 50%
    +3 25%
    +4 10%
    +5 5%
    +6 1%
    +7 0.5%
    +8 0.25%
    +9 0.1%
    +10 0.05%
    +11 0.025%
    +12 0.01%
    Moog - Lost City wrote: »
    I thought the land refinement only worked if your guild owns that land.

    That is more for the stone "bonuses."
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    I thought that refine success chance % had something to do with item level as well? Maybe its just my luck but when I was doing my 7x and 8x gear I got it to +3-4 with just tienkang stones, but couldn't get my 9x gear anywhere without orbs.


    Also...are they really 150k each now? Thats a lot of money to improve my gear.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »
    I thought that refine success chance % had something to do with item level as well? Maybe its just my luck but when I was doing my 7x and 8x gear I got it to +3-4 with just tienkang stones, but couldn't get my 9x gear anywhere without orbs.


    Also...are they really 150k each now? Thats a lot of money to improve my gear.

    b:surrender Yes....because of Gold prices.

    I got some yesterday for 75k b:dirty...but only like 10...but prices are INSANE....
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    b:surrender Yes....because of Gold prices.

    I got some yesterday for 75k b:dirty...but only like 10...but prices are INSANE....

    well i guess i'll have to live with what I have then. 150k is like...7-8 trumpets...130 of them is a whole lot of yelling at people in world chat.
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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited December 2009
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    It's rather sad how expensive refine is costing lately. Before Anni packs, +5 on just about everything was normal, inexpensive and "minimum". Now just getting to +4 is expensive.

    Yet again the Cash shoppers have it made b:surrender

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