New Classes getting stronger??? how about the old classes?

geemarkarcher#4378

so new i read the new classes are getting stronger , but classes like the winged elf get tottaly forgotten? we never get any good updates, but lame skills, long channeling, spark skills that are useless and on top of that the archers damage sucks.

the new classes are OP enough. DB has zerk/paralyze continous lock and my class (archer) cant do nothing aggainst it , we dont even have a chance. SB is OP enough too since it has purify + can move while attacking having paralyze and stuns. We have no chance aggainst this class, our skillls remain useless cuz Paralyze is too much.

i wonder why pwi is unbalancing everything and making it worse. aps sins got nerfed while they dont even do any damage

you guys seriously need to do a rework on classes skills it sucks for the old classes that never get a good update , while the new classes that already where OP, get stronger and stronger.

zionwarrior

The sad thing is that the dev's in china do not care, and that china has different problems than we do and entirely different gameplay. They make the updates based off their version and do not give a DAMN about any other one as long as they make money from it they are fine with putting out bull shiet patches that do not have any effect on them at all because it is not their version.

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torquoisegamer

raynian wrote: »

so new i read the new classes are getting stronger , but classes like the winged elf get tottaly forgotten? we never get any good updates, but lame skills, long channeling, spark skills that are useless and on top of that the archers damage sucks.

the new classes are OP enough. DB has zerk/paralyze continous lock and my class (archer) cant do nothing aggainst it , we dont even have a chance. SB is OP enough too since it has purify + can move while attacking having paralyze and stuns. We have no chance aggainst this class, our skillls remain useless cuz Paralyze is too much.

i wonder why pwi is unbalancing everything and making it worse. aps sins got nerfed while they dont even do any damage

you guys seriously need to do a rework on classes skills it sucks for the old classes that never get a good update , while the new classes that already where OP, get stronger and stronger.

So you're basically complaining because the class that was designed to defeat your class, which was a completely OP class before the nightshade, is getting stronger?

patrickhuong

torquoisegamer wrote: »

raynian wrote: »

so new i read the new classes are getting stronger , but classes like the winged elf get tottaly forgotten? we never get any good updates, but lame skills, long channeling, spark skills that are useless and on top of that the archers damage sucks.

the new classes are OP enough. DB has zerk/paralyze continous lock and my class (archer) cant do nothing aggainst it , we dont even have a chance. SB is OP enough too since it has purify + can move while attacking having paralyze and stuns. We have no chance aggainst this class, our skillls remain useless cuz Paralyze is too much.

i wonder why pwi is unbalancing everything and making it worse. aps sins got nerfed while they dont even do any damage

you guys seriously need to do a rework on classes skills it sucks for the old classes that never get a good update , while the new classes that already where OP, get stronger and stronger.

So you're basically complaining because the class that was designed to defeat your class, which was a completely OP class before the nightshade, is getting stronger?

a class that design to defeat your class.....hmm....doesn't make any sense to me....
anyway the point is "new classes are in weak position, so they deserve to get stronger" (PWCN/PWI devs)

dblazen1

I'll just post it here as well since there will be a lot of threads about this instead of people just discussing it in one, although the title of the other one isn't clear at all.
Here goes:

Friendly reminder that the only reason they are doing that re-balance is because of their PoV is based on China, not our powercreep version.

razzzza

The wizzards and archery may collect themselfes again to sh&it all of them complains once again.

This thread will be rememberes forever as the "welp we complained over our classes once again". What a glorious day.

chilpod

razzzza wrote: »

The wizzards and archery may collect themselfes again to sh&it all of them complains once again.

This thread will be rememberes forever as the "welp we complained over our classes once again". What a glorious day.

True since most complainers don't know how their characters very well. I have archers in my faction who actually like the primal skills so I just need to follow to get my quests done; no need to worry about their damage. Very happy to grab something to eat and just watch. But wizzards, think they depend on having channeling in their gear for both PvE and PvP. Most of the time they're just slow. Could me a 'laggy connection' as some are saying.

The only 'unbalanced thing' I see is the 'cash shoppers versus free players' (read: best gear against earned gear) but if I look at normal PvE gameplay both classes are balanced very well. Sure the continous lock is hated by many. We have to live with it. Luckely it's now a choice for most just to enter PvP mode and 'bluenamed' people actually have a choice to pk other classes, even when it comes to TW. Well, Ryanian looks at PvP only. Time for him to just level another toon, get R9RR+12 asap and forget the QQ-ing about archers. <- trolling XD

Looking forward to see the 'update'.

bangbang

Sin QQ all over again, just accept that in order for a game to improve new things need to be introduced.

mark1c

andremartins1 wrote: »

Always a QQ post jesus you guys make me mad do oyu know why? because ur fking QQ about ARCHERS . Did u QQ that much when archers were OP? guess not. bye

and when were archers so op?

In rank9 era when all noobs like you had +3-5 armors and +10-12 weapons and expected something but got 1-2 shot instead ? lmao

who ever played this game WITH and against END GAME GEARED PEOPLE NOW AND THEN know archers were never that OP when fighting equally geared other classes...

Back in rank9 days if you were endgame +12 josd against same geared archer you had well balanced fight (both fully buffed)...archers could easy kill you if they would get lucky with purge,but other classes were much tankier and hit hard on archer due to archers not having any real defensive self buffs.(so for archers it was not only about getting lucky with purge but also about good kiteing)

Today it all doesnt matter at all,archers are just garbage due to way to high defenses other classes have.(gear,passives,self buffs,nuemas,stat points,titles etc etc)

Sad truth is 99.9% of people on this forum and ingame never experienced real end game balance or ever will.

perrion

mark1c wrote: »

andremartins1 wrote: »

Always a QQ post jesus you guys make me mad do oyu know why? because ur fking QQ about ARCHERS . Did u QQ that much when archers were OP? guess not. bye

and when were archers so op?

In rank9 era when all noobs like you had +3-5 armors and +10-12 weapons and expected something but got 1-2 shot instead ? lmao

who ever played this game WITH and against END GAME GEARED PEOPLE NOW AND THEN know archers were never that OP when fighting equally geared other classes...

Back in rank9 days if you were endgame +12 josd against same geared archer you had well balanced fight (both fully buffed)...archers could easy kill you if they would get lucky with purge,but other classes were much tankier and hit hard on archer due to archers not having any real defensive self buffs.(so for archers it was not only about getting lucky with purge but also about good kiteing)

Today it all doesnt matter at all,archers are just garbage due to way to high defenses other classes have.(gear,passives,self buffs,nuemas,stat points,titles etc etc)

Sad truth is 99.9% of people on this forum and ingame never experienced real end game balance or ever will.

^ This.

Archers have been on a steady decline for years now, each new update pushing them farther down compared to the other classes. Endgame PVP wise, they are bottom of the barrel. Now, a class that has shown to be pretty strong against most classes, and is tailored to wreck archers, is about to get a buff?

Deceptistar

I do have to agree. While the new classes are really fun. When i look back from 2008, the original classes are pretty neglected. Not that i think they should add more OP skills but perhaps if they could add in more plus & minus skills (skills that make you sacrifice one thing for another for a few seconds to a few min.)

razzzza

can you people please NOT argue about archers beeing **** every god damn update when a tiny little bit is done about any class except archers and wizzards?
The river can only be that full and its goddamn near from all the crying this forum has recived from archer and wizzard mains who wanna oneshit again.

stop trying you could change anything about your crying its not going to happen.

zoner112012

People will probably disagree but, Human classes have been given the shaft for a long time. Sure BMs got decent primal stuff, but BMs are nerfed constantly. We got ONE great skill: Blade Tornado, and it got nerfed MANY times because everyone complained about how strong it was because god forbid BMs have a strong skill. Wizards have been messed over bad and lets face it, are a dying class. We have been pushed to the wayside and not really given any substantial boost in anything.

patrickhuong

you guys are all wrong....
SB and DB are in weak position, they deserve to be stronger...
sign...such haters

sakulv

yes how about venos

velvetgoldmine

razzzza wrote: »

can you people please NOT argue about archers beeing **** every god damn update when a tiny little bit is done about any class except archers and wizzards?
The river can only be that full and its goddamn near from all the crying this forum has recived from archer and wizzard mains who wanna oneshit again.

stop trying you could change anything about your crying its not going to happen.

I wish I could upvote this, this was so funny.

thesquee1

New is always too stronk and must be nerfed before release despite real world application.

sasquatch87

Just my opinion, I don't think the stormbringers is that op but I'll agree with the duskblades and thats only becasue they have skills that reset after doing x amount of damage in combine with paralize stun etc. I think if DB was purged of paralize they wouldn't be that unbalanced. Can't really speak for other classes but clerics (saged) have a 20% channeling boost skill add on their magic buff so channeling speed shouldn't be a big issue tbh.

geemarkarcher#4378

lol.. Wizards are not behind, this class at first does OP damage , and never got nerfed.
Then second, archers who think there primal skills are op ,just dont think straight enough.

all primal skills hit weaker , then the previous ones that are needed to update them.

archers have toomuch channeling ,chi cost and useless effects on them due the OP proc of continious purify spell.
Then endgame archers got behind with updates and suck , arcanes/zerk classes can 1 shot archers with zerk or crit . while an archer does **** 3k dmg ,and is easy blocked by the high defenses other classes have.

anyhow i know they wont change it , but it sucks that all classes that were op , got more op and the elf class just got nothing.then im not even talking about the high amount of glitches the archer class has.

jadasia

sakulv wrote: »

yes how about venos

We venos should have our bramble hood and bramble guard work in open world PvP again.

freygin

zionwarrior wrote: »

The sad thing is that the dev's in china do not care, and that china has different problems than we do and entirely different gameplay. They make the updates based off their version and do not give a DAMN about any other one as long as they make money from it they are fine with putting out bull shiet patches that do not have any effect on them at all because it is not their version.

How are the Chinese version got different gameplay ? they have different version of r9rr and total amount of mats needed to upgrade it, but I bet sins are still OP there as they are op in any other regions.

And the new 'stun' they gave barbs and bms is ridiculous. Once you get caught by a barb or a bm, it's hard to break free from them without purify spell, why did they introduced this new stun mechanic, especially on China server where R9 is quite rare or cost a fortune, without purify spell which is still quite rare on China server, that stun is VERY OP.

shimarra

It's been happening for a long time, just gets worse with every new race. Used to be push backs for not allowed in PVP, worked PVE. If you debuffed you also got some kind of negative. Not so with any new races. Old classes work on a different set of rules.​​

geemarkarcher#4378

jadasia wrote: »

sakulv wrote: »

yes how about venos

Venos Are OP enough with their 100% purge thats has to be nerfed, doesnt cost spark and can just purge 100%, venos do OP damage and have op skills
We venos should have our bramble hood and bramble guard work in open world PvP again.