A- Well I'm Sorry to break it to u ...Ur original post is elitist
Period
And there is no room for elitists.. It's just sad u take this game way too seriously to start firing shots on others who just play for fun
This is elitist think - "oh , they have no good gear , it will ruin my day , I will post a thread of toxic to get me in balance "
Plz .. Get perspective . So u loose .. Big deal .. But I forgot u probably so scared about your ranking position .. Like its important.. So go premade already and u done with this "nubs" right ? Right ?
B - have u read my comment? I'm in alts in pve gear until I can get t1 PvP gear ( week or so in average ) and in that week I can handle myself ok .. Not best ofc .. But ok.. The team not loosing because of me unless this is against bis premade .. If we loose its everyone fault .. We just weren't good enough .. That's it .. So I get the glory .. And I promise u most starter players in pve gear get the glory in the same rate they would get even with this AH gear .. when they will be more exp they will increase that rate .. But for starters .. It doesn't matter much
So that is also not valid point u make ..
U just hate to admit that u loose as a a team ..cause it will mean u blame u too.. sad sad indeed
Lol funny. I said my last post but I can't resist. If I was elitist and worried about my ranking, I would be in a guild. Hell, even in a PVP guild but not, that is not the case. I play PUG all the time. So do I care if I win nor lose? No not at all but if you queue, put some **** effort in it. That is my only case. Because in the end, it's a team based play and if you come unprepared then yes, you are bad in my books. Do you have to be BiS? No, have you been reading what I have been posting? I said greens or blues is fine, just so you can help and not a liability. Please, if anything, you sound like you are the type of person thinking about yourself, because as you said, you rather run in PVE gear but not take into consideration the possible team mates you will have. Good luck, no more replies from me on this as you guys seems short sighted and can only see the surface and not the big picture.
Side note: I find it funny people whine about undergeared players coming in Tiamat. But that's ok to whine about that, there's no issue because those folks clearly are not ready to go into tiamat. However, it is frown upon to tell people that they need to be geared appropriately for PVP (i.e. tenacity)
No i will not use that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> PVP gear cause i will not make enchantments for it. Blame cryptic and its TERRIBLE idea of making pvp gear different from PvE ones, it was one of the best selling points to bring people to this game, now no one came to this game cause it got ruined.
and I WILL NOT USE 2 DIFFERENT SETS.
What "enchantments" did you mean to make? Both PvP and PvE gear use the same enchantments.
Guys, even a small amount of tenacity makes a huge difference boosting your damage resistance, control resistance, armour penetration resistance, and critical resistance. The effective stat curve is an inverse curve, so anything is far better than nothing at all.
So what do you sugest, that every time that i switch from PvE to PVP i spend 10 gold?
If you can't afford 10 gold I don't think you want to know how much you need to spend on RP to make your PvP experience relevant. If you are really that cheap, no problem though, just use rank 6 or rank 5 or even rank 4 enchantments on your PvP gear then and leave whatever better enchantments you can afford to your favorite PvE gear.
Lol funny. I said my last post but I can't resist. If I was elitist and worried about my ranking, I would be in a guild. Hell, even in a PVP guild but not, that is not the case. I play PUG all the time. So do I care if I win nor lose? No not at all but if you queue, put some **** effort in it. That is my only case. Because in the end, it's a team based play and if you come unprepared then yes, you are bad in my books. Do you have to be BiS? No, have you been reading what I have been posting? I said greens or blues is fine, just so you can help and not a liability. Please, if anything, you sound like you are the type of person thinking about yourself, because as you said, you rather run in PVE gear but not take into consideration the possible team mates you will have. Good luck, no more replies from me on this as you guys seems short sighted and can only see the surface and not the big picture.
Side note: I find it funny people whine about undergeared players coming in Tiamat. But that's ok to whine about that, there's no issue because those folks clearly are not ready to go into tiamat. However, it is frown upon to tell people that they need to be geared appropriately for PVP (i.e. tenacity)
ilold but wtv.
My last comment from me to u also in this thread
U just don't want to realize that , starter player will have the same effect in pve gear or with the AH PvP gear , the diff will be notice at t1 full sets and by experience
do u know why people with t2 burning set perform better ? Not only because their gear .. Because they have experience . They fought lots of matches to get there .. So they know their class and opponent class better . That's it
How I can prove it is also exp factor ? Easy .. I take myself .. When I started PvP and fought in pve gear I was wiped every time ... one year later pass , I fight PvP in pve gear on alts I started .. And I handle ok even with that gear
That's the proof and everyone can do this little test them self
and finally - pug is pug , ofc pugs can interact and work together like many matches I had been , and as a pug player sometimes with 4 other good players u feels like a real team , but in the end of the day is every man for himself , cause next match u r with other team , doesn't mean u should camp , playing badly on propose.. Not at all - do try your best with your team , with your correct gear and skills , try to communicate , try to give feedback to teammate if u see the others play wrong , but just scream and to expect pug to change something gear wise ..just because u will feel better ..plz .. That's just rudeness in here
So I won't say anything else then go premade
and stop complain when u pug
Can be fun also if u try to enjoy yourself and not take this too seriously when u loose
This event has illustrated how horrible this community is. They just let down their team. I was just in a match where we were down 50 points, and 3 players on the team stopped saying we can't win.
If the devs really want a Combat League, ban AFKers from PvP. NO basketball player stops playing because the team goes into the half 20 points down, much less down by 5.
To appease the people for whom strategy is to difficult a concept to keep playing, then give them their team deathmatch. Anything to keep them away from an actual competition.
It's obvious that there are players exploiting the event. They are getting the minimum points required to earn tokens and stop so the match is over in a couple of minutes. Cryptic should really look into the activity ban the players doing this entirely.
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and that not even geting started about the healers...
Don't lump me together in this mess. It doesn't matter if I can keep my team alive, if they are unable to cap or contest the other nodes without dying miserably it is a lost cause, not the healer's fault. I could hold mid, but switch to the enemy node then all of a sudden mid is lost, there's no difference.
Why waste the other team's time if they got the match in the bag?
The best I can do is run around to heal the TR and tank that are contesting the other nodes then keep track of the 3rd.
This event has illustrated how horrible this community is. They just let down their team. I was just in a match where we were down 50 points, and 3 players on the team stopped saying we can't win.
If the devs really want a Combat League, ban AFKers from PvP. NO basketball player stops playing because the team goes into the half 20 points down, much less down by 5.
To appease the people for whom strategy is to difficult a concept to keep playing, then give them their team deathmatch. Anything to keep them away from an actual competition.
It's obvious that there are players exploiting the event. They are getting the minimum points required to earn tokens and stop so the match is over in a couple of minutes. Cryptic should really look into the activity ban the players doing this entirely.
It'd be nice if there was a "Report Player" Option in PVP. Too report things like Exploiters / AFKERS / Etc. It'd also be nice if someone leaves a match, if someone else could "fill in" (a special queue pop saying that match needs a fill-in, with increased glory rewards for being a fill-in player)
There isnt much worth farming on this event. once you have full 4 set pvp gear you go for the mount or pirate outfit, then spam glory for more artifacts too refine. If It was rank 6/7/8 runestones instead of 5/6/7. and The 1000 jewelry was double slot (off and def) and if the rare goods cache had more cool rewards and wasn't just essentially wasting 75 tokens 90% of the time. then there'd be a lot more too do on it.
As it is though. I'm loving the quicker matches, most of the PvE players I see in there have at least some PvP gear on now (since the PvP burning gear is far better than most gear they can get atm unless they already have ele alliance)
All in all. it was a great idea, but the rewards need to be better for some of the boxes. Hopefully they take the player feedback and the official season 1 or pre season has higher ranked enchantments, better jewelry, and more worthwhile rewards.
OK first things first, if you can't even come down because you get hit like a tissue paper, then you are completely a waste of slot. I had a few instance where they just ran around and avoided conflict. This is where my biggest problem lies. Now for those who think buying less than 4K AD on AH to get tenacity is a waste of AD because you need all you can to get your toon going, you are doing yourself a dis-service. First off, if you don't win and don't score enough, you don't get glory. No glory = no armor. The question is not if you can handle PVP with PVE gear but giving your team a good chance. What is 4K AD anyway? Is it going to break your bank? Please, don't make it sound like you are buying a ton of stuff. To me that is just ignorance.
Now for the elitist part. You think I said it's exclusive? Please don't put words in my mouth. It doesn't take a rocket scientist that if you PVP, you better have pvp gear, greens/blues, whatever. This game has been out how long and you are going to tell me they never heard of tenacity? Come on. Let's be realist. So if you decide to queue without pvp gear, you are not only hurting yourself but your team mates as well and that is my point. Some just don't seem to care and that is where my problem lies.
If you feel I am elitist, it makes me wonder how skewed your judgement is really.
A- Well I'm Sorry to break it to u ...Ur original post is elitist
Period
And there is no room for elitists.. It's just sad u take this game way too seriously to start firing shots on others who just play for fun
This is elitist think - "oh , they have no good gear , it will ruin my day , I will post a thread of toxic to get me in balance "
Plz .. Get perspective . So u loose .. Big deal .. But I forgot u probably so scared about your ranking position .. Like its important.. So go premade already and u done with this "nubs" right ? Right ?
B - have u read my comment? I'm in alts in pve gear until I can get t1 PvP gear ( week or so in average ) and in that week I can handle myself ok .. Not best ofc .. But ok.. The team not loosing because of me unless this is against bis premade .. If we loose its everyone fault .. We just weren't good enough .. That's it .. So I get the glory .. And I promise u most starter players in pve gear get the glory in the same rate they would get even with this AH gear .. when they will be more exp they will increase that rate .. But for starters .. It doesn't matter much
So that is also not valid point u make ..
U just hate to admit that u loose as a team ..cause it will mean u blame u too.. sad sad indeed
Well them geting the glory at the same rate isint an excuse for not geting of your fat <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and buying some proper gear couze it does help significantly and you have more chances of a competitive play and a bigger chance to win in total ^^
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Lol funny. I said my last post but I can't resist. If I was elitist and worried about my ranking, I would be in a guild. Hell, even in a PVP guild but not, that is not the case. I play PUG all the time. So do I care if I win nor lose? No not at all but if you queue, put some **** effort in it. That is my only case. Because in the end, it's a team based play and if you come unprepared then yes, you are bad in my books. Do you have to be BiS? No, have you been reading what I have been posting? I said greens or blues is fine, just so you can help and not a liability. Please, if anything, you sound like you are the type of person thinking about yourself, because as you said, you rather run in PVE gear but not take into consideration the possible team mates you will have. Good luck, no more replies from me on this as you guys seems short sighted and can only see the surface and not the big picture.
Side note: I find it funny people whine about undergeared players coming in Tiamat. But that's ok to whine about that, there's no issue because those folks clearly are not ready to go into tiamat. However, it is frown upon to tell people that they need to be geared appropriately for PVP (i.e. tenacity)
ilold but wtv.
What "enchantments" did you mean to make? Both PvP and PvE gear use the same enchantments.
If you can't afford 10 gold I don't think you want to know how much you need to spend on RP to make your PvP experience relevant. If you are really that cheap, no problem though, just use rank 6 or rank 5 or even rank 4 enchantments on your PvP gear then and leave whatever better enchantments you can afford to your favorite PvE gear.
My last comment from me to u also in this thread
U just don't want to realize that , starter player will have the same effect in pve gear or with the AH PvP gear , the diff will be notice at t1 full sets and by experience
do u know why people with t2 burning set perform better ? Not only because their gear .. Because they have experience . They fought lots of matches to get there .. So they know their class and opponent class better . That's it
How I can prove it is also exp factor ? Easy .. I take myself .. When I started PvP and fought in pve gear I was wiped every time ... one year later pass , I fight PvP in pve gear on alts I started .. And I handle ok even with that gear
That's the proof and everyone can do this little test them self
and finally - pug is pug , ofc pugs can interact and work together like many matches I had been , and as a pug player sometimes with 4 other good players u feels like a real team , but in the end of the day is every man for himself , cause next match u r with other team , doesn't mean u should camp , playing badly on propose.. Not at all - do try your best with your team , with your correct gear and skills , try to communicate , try to give feedback to teammate if u see the others play wrong , but just scream and to expect pug to change something gear wise ..just because u will feel better ..plz .. That's just rudeness in here
So I won't say anything else then go premade
and stop complain when u pug
Can be fun also if u try to enjoy yourself and not take this too seriously when u loose
fail.
Full pvp set in rank 7s >>>>>>>>>>>≥>>>>>>>>>>>>> pve gear with rank 12s for pvp.
It takes little effort, seriously. And allows you to fight in pvp.
If the devs really want a Combat League, ban AFKers from PvP. NO basketball player stops playing because the team goes into the half 20 points down, much less down by 5.
To appease the people for whom strategy is to difficult a concept to keep playing, then give them their team deathmatch. Anything to keep them away from an actual competition.
It's obvious that there are players exploiting the event. They are getting the minimum points required to earn tokens and stop so the match is over in a couple of minutes. Cryptic should really look into the activity ban the players doing this entirely.
Don't lump me together in this mess. It doesn't matter if I can keep my team alive, if they are unable to cap or contest the other nodes without dying miserably it is a lost cause, not the healer's fault. I could hold mid, but switch to the enemy node then all of a sudden mid is lost, there's no difference.
Why waste the other team's time if they got the match in the bag?
The best I can do is run around to heal the TR and tank that are contesting the other nodes then keep track of the 3rd.
It'd be nice if there was a "Report Player" Option in PVP. Too report things like Exploiters / AFKERS / Etc. It'd also be nice if someone leaves a match, if someone else could "fill in" (a special queue pop saying that match needs a fill-in, with increased glory rewards for being a fill-in player)
There isnt much worth farming on this event. once you have full 4 set pvp gear you go for the mount or pirate outfit, then spam glory for more artifacts too refine. If It was rank 6/7/8 runestones instead of 5/6/7. and The 1000 jewelry was double slot (off and def) and if the rare goods cache had more cool rewards and wasn't just essentially wasting 75 tokens 90% of the time. then there'd be a lot more too do on it.
As it is though. I'm loving the quicker matches, most of the PvE players I see in there have at least some PvP gear on now (since the PvP burning gear is far better than most gear they can get atm unless they already have ele alliance)
All in all. it was a great idea, but the rewards need to be better for some of the boxes. Hopefully they take the player feedback and the official season 1 or pre season has higher ranked enchantments, better jewelry, and more worthwhile rewards.
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Well them geting the glory at the same rate isint an excuse for not geting of your fat <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and buying some proper gear couze it does help significantly and you have more chances of a competitive play and a bigger chance to win in total ^^